Change comes from within, you morons!

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Originally posted by Bungo Pony
I wrote a post not so long ago that goes well with this: http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23385
I have to admit that that post of yours is really great stuff. If you do that kind of thinking all the time, you will know yourself very well - you can no longer speak of "shallow knowledge". That kind of thinking is exactly what leads to a change in your character! Notice also that you need to ask these questions only from yourself and nobody else, because you are the only one who can answer them correctly.

Survivor: I stand corrected. That post of yours is more or less talking about the same thing what this thread is.
 
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Good Post, Anson.

This is something I realized a while ago. I especially agree with the section about visiting this site doesn't make you a Don Juan...

It's the same thing as hanging out at the club house doesn't make you a golfer.

Many People would revert to AFC in an instant, if they stopped coming here. When you stop coming here, and and you continue to improve upon yourself, then You will become a true Don Juan.


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Is it generally part of your superior CHARACTER to call people morons?
 

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While I urge you not to underestimate the value of reading in order to gain knowledge, I do openly agree that the information that you gain is useless unless you take it out there into the real world and use it.

Once you start using it more and more frequently, the easier it becomes. You see, the Don Juan system is a road that becoms wider and deeper every time you walk it. In other words, The longer you follow the Don Juan path, the easier it becomes, and the less likely you are to revert back to AFC tendencies.


I have been a devotee of the Don Juan system for nearly 3 years now, and I can honestly say that I am a Don Juan through and through and nothing will ever change that at this point. don't even have to think about techniques any more-- they have been more or less molded into my personality, therefore I just do them naturally.

I did not get this way through reading, simply because back when I first arrived, most of this material did not exist. I took what there was and learned the rest for myself, and here I am. I gained my real expertise through field experience, and I will continue to gain experience until they lower me into the ground.
 

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Wow Very very nice post - you seem to really know the stuff you're talking about. You even know the word sub-conscious... :)

Please tell me - if change magically comes from within, why do you have 500 posts? Why didn't you change yourself from within without this site and without the help of other people telling you what to do and how to act with a girl? :mad:

Both of your dieting and bodybuilding examples are completely wrong.
 
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Originally posted by Vronski
Why didn't you change yourself from within without this site and without the help of other people telling you what to do and how to act with a girl? :mad:
I did! I returned to this site a couple of months ago after being away for about 10 months. I'm not saying that everybody should do the same thing, I'm just saying (among other things) that people shouldn't get too depended on this site.
 

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Changing your character comes from changing your attitude. Once you've changed your attitude, it becomes one with you, and once it becomes a part of you, it molds into your character. This is something that I have JUST figured out recently, and I mean like a month ago. Before then, i figured that if I do everything in the DJ bible I would become a True Master DJ...How wrong I was :( What i didn't know then was the fact that the first change one must do to begin his DJ journey is his attitude. AND what i mean by his attitude is how he thinks towards certain situations, and what he thinks of them. So nowadays I strive to change my outlook on things COMPLETELY. In differently in the direction that would make ME (notice how i said me) a better being.

payce,
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Originally posted by Vronski
Please tell me - if change magically comes from within, why do you have 500 posts? Why didn't you change yourself from within without this site and without the help of other people telling you what to do and how to act with a girl? :mad:
My problem wasn't self-improvement, but it was maintaining myself. I would go on "surges" of self improvement everytime something major happened in my life, then I'd just sit back and enjoy the changes I made to myself without continuing the self improvement. By doing this I'd revert back into AFC ways. I know better now :)
 

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Great post!

Great post Anson!

I have reached a turning point in my life. I begun looking back thinking "where did I go wrong?". I looked back at the failures with women and how I'd always blaim the WOMEN for MY failures! I'd all her a b!tch (see me recent posts) and moan about how she uses me etc.

But now I've come to realise that I NEED TO CHANGE. I stumbled upon the very thing in your post. I realised that I need to change my CHARACTER, I need to build confidence in every thing. I need to CHANGE WHO I AM. That is how I can be truly happy.

Right now I am asking myself the question, "what would make me happy?" and "how can I change who I am, for the better". I need to change my character.

And I've realised just how difficult this is. I can feel my character constantly resiting change, but I fight it with everything I have because I want to change. I fight feelings of axiousness, depression, etc.

Thanks for your post! It's proof that I am on the right track.
 

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There's something I want to clarify...

Originally posted by Vronski
Wow Very very nice post - you seem to really know the stuff you're talking about. You even know the word sub-conscious...

Please tell me - if change magically comes from within ---
It's good to get criticism, but for some reason I get the feeling that you didn't quite understand the point of my post. That's fine, perhaps I wasn't being clear enough on this. So, I'll jusy clarify something to you - and to other people who didn't get what change I was talking about, too.

We change all the time. The word "character" does not only include our living habits, but also our ways of seeing the world and the way we see ourselves. That is the part that is in the sub-consciousness (what's so special about that word? . :confused: ). Therefore, it does not happen automatically - or "magically". I said that if people want to change something, they need to make it their way of life. Now, this is NOT an easy and/or "magical" change, since you're fighting against your own mind! You can't tell your mind when to change, that's why dedicating yourself to something new - and something hard, like self-respecting - is not an easy task.

Everybody changes within. All the time. We see and learn new things and those things slowly change our attitudes towards ourselves and the world around us. But the really hard thing is to control the change. That's why complete dedication is needed. Think about a kid who always gets mocked by other kids. When one guy mocks him once, the kid won't really mind. "Hey, it's life", he tells to himslef. But what if EVERYBODY mocks him like that ALL THE TIME? Sooner or later the kid is gonna start hating himself. Why does this kind of change happen? Why does he start hating himself? Because he tells himself: "Oh my, I think I want to hate myself"? Noooo... he doesn't tell himself that. The change happens without him even recognizing it. It just happens unconsciously. Years pass, but the kid remains a kid, as he's too afraid to look for new sides in himself and therefore doesn't get more mature or doesn't get to know himself. And then, the kid finds this site and reads "Kill that desperation" by Pook for the first time - and believes everything that's being said there. What happens?

BOOF! Does he magically turn into a masculine, succesful DJ?

No. Next day he will be just as huge a loser as before. And the day after that. And the day after that. He just can't fight his own character - not at first, at least. The texts written by Pook will not change him. But, they will do something else: they make him think that perhaps it is possible for me to change in the future! And this spark of hope turns the tables: he's character has always kept changing, but so far it has changed itself towards self-hatret. Now, if the kid truly dedicates himself to self improvement, there's a chance that his character will change in the future. That's what I ment when I said that it must became a way of life. And what if he doesn't totally and completely dedicate to this (i.e. make it a way of life for him)? Well, Bungo Pony posted a great example of this:
Originally posted by Bungo Pony
I would go on "surges" of self improvement everytime something major happened in my life, then I'd just sit back and enjoy the changes I made to myself without continuing the self improvement. By doing this I'd revert back into AFC ways.
Remember that our self-image and the image of the world around us will keep on changing even if we stop self-improving! If you don't even try to control the direction of the change, you might find yourself back in the AFC-land again. That's why it has to be a way of life to you.

This actually brings us to what Ronin posted:
Originally posted by Ronin I
Is it generally part of your superior CHARACTER to call people morons?
I don't believe there is such a thing as a "superior" character. As our characters change all the time in all categories, there will not be two character that are alike. That's why it's pointless to compete. That's why it's pointless to ask about other people's characters. Instead of asking "is it part of your character to call people morons", you should be asking: "is it part of my character to complain about it?"

You need to think about how you want to change and then completely dedicate yourself to it. Many, many people here take it as a competition. Why is it bad to take it as a competition? Because when winning is the main goal and self-improvement only a way to get there, then your character will abandon the self-improvement once you've got to the winning part. Am I wrong? Then why did my weight come back if I lost it really fast? You can dedicate yourself into not-eating-anything and lose huge amount of pounds in a week. But once you've gotten to the low numbers in weight, you've achieved your goals - and you'll be eating yourslef fat again. Why? Because recent psychological studies indicate that fatness is just as much psychological as it is physiological. Fat people aren't hungry all the time; they're just addicted to food. They just can't stop thinking about food. As a former fatazz, I have to agree with these studies. Therefore, you need to change your character if you want to lose that weight permanently. And that requiers complete dedication, which in my eyes is synonym of "making it a way of life".

Now, all this stuff are in the psychology books. But did my life change when I started reading psychology? No. Whether you believe in psychology, philosophy, some religion, or the sayings of the DJ Bible, they can only provide you with the right questions, the right answers you'll have to find from yourself. That's why you should never believe 100 % everything what some religion, or psychology, or DJ Bible says. Because in the end, you are always the one providing the answers. That's why it needs dedication, that's why you need to use your own brains to think.

That's why change comes from within.

EDIT: This was my 500th post! Hooray!
 
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Over a thousand views and still no rating? C'mon guys, I can take it :p

Okay okay, I admit it, this was just a dumb excuse to bump my post
 

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You need to think about how you want to change and then completely dedicate yourself to it. Many, many people here take it as a competition. Why is it bad to take it as a competition? Because when winning is the main goal and self-improvement only a way to get there, then your character will abandon the self-improvement once you've got to the winning part.
This is true. And there's yet another reason why competing with yourself only produces temporary results. Treating self-improvement as a fight against your own nature can only ever bring temporary benefits because you are using the same old beliefs that got you into AFC land in the first place. IT'S A TRAP.

If you have to fight against yourself and your habits, behaviours etc, in order to improve, then what you are really doing is acting on the belief that you are not good enough as you are. So you struggle and strain to 'improve', without looking at the underlying belief that you're not good enough.

Lasting change doesn't come from forcing yourself to fit into some abstract 'idea' of who you want to be.

Lasting change comes not from trying to change, but from gaining greater awareness and acceptance of who you are. The changes are secondary to your self-acceptance.

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anson, i must say. we're getting somewhere with this. i think my post covered the explanation of why these "quick fix" ideas wont work. yours went into what would work.

except for:

Originally posted by Anson
I had a huge revelation (I still don’t now where it came from) that I should respect myself.
i really think this is the key. I'm going to ponder over this as much as i can, and see if i can come up with an explanation.

I've learned in the past few months that the best way to get someone to do something is genuine motivation. the more of a reason they have, (the more evidence that they will get results the better), the more likely they are to effectively do something.

but how do we generate this motivation? it's one thing to tell someone if you smile more you'll get more girls, it's completely different to tell them you have to work really hard and you'll succeed. but the thing is, that's the truth. it's not a quick fix.

i guarantee you i will not rest until i have figured this out ;).

thanks man, you're really helping me decode this. i was actually going to write something about this :D.
 

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Interresting comment, Nocturnal!

I've been thinking about it real hard lately. Where does the motivation really come from? Change comes from within, yes, but where do we get the motivation for it? People might think that my post is good or that Noctural's Truth About Confidence is good or that Pook's Kill that Desperation is good. And definetly, these are good posts to read. Perhaps even multiple times. But in the end, they won't change you. They can at best give you the inspiration to start looking for ways to change yourself.

What makes us finaly respect ourselves? I haven't yet came up with a proper explanation - at least not one that would be universal. All I remember that I was pissed off - pissed off at the fact that DJ'ing hadn't for some reason made me happier with myself than what I was during my AFC times, even though it had changed everything else in my life! To be more precise, it got me mad to read from somewhere in the DJ Bible how easy it would be to make myself happy. I had done it all, I had gained all the confidence I ever needed - and still I wasn't feeling that good. That's when I started to look for my own way - and dear God, it was worth it I'm telling you! But where did I get the motivation? Was it frustration? I can't tell for sure.

One thing I have realized, though: whenever you get the motivation, you have to find that from your own life, from your own personal perspective. That's why I ended my original post by telling people to explore. Even though I don't know where the motivation comes from, I believe that the motivation could come easier if people were already looking for "their own way". You know, in a way that was what I started doing by getting mad at the DJ Bible.

But hey Nocturnal - when you come up with something better than this, please let me know!
 
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There really isn't enough stars I can give to this post

Not only was the post fantastic, but your replies to the pockets of critism show that you truly practice what you preach.

10 stars for this post and thanks for taking the time to write it.
 

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This is the official "bumping all my posts" day :D
 

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So what if I'm bumping it again? :mad:

...okay, this'll (hopefully) be the last time ;)
 

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This guy is so ****ing genius. I always wondered why I had so many relapses and why I kept sporadically alternating between acting DJ and acting AFC even after I thought I had improved myself, and why I always acted lazy even when I knew I was better than that. This is why! Thanks man.
 
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