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theapprentice,

Its an exciting, yet cautious endeavor, isn’t it?

I really think you should work for a Lego Factory, as that is your true calling in life…

But seriously, from everything you’ve described, I get the same impression as djtdot….that you should be integrating both military and engineering somehow.

A military background – or the military values, per se, can transfer well into many roles in life…everything from working in a 'team' to holding a position of honour and integrity. A military background is usually rated tops. I’m curious about how one could further apply this to positions in the government…or organizations associated with the government – like NASA, to name one of many.

I work with engineers - mindless graph loving morons. There are plenty of cool engineers. Don’t look at the photo of the graduating class. Only the best of the best are selected for the good positions and move on to better things like CEO’s and VP’s. What defines the best of the best? Someone who has a personality…someone who others like and can relate to…someone who demonstrates a team oriented attitude and leadership abilities. Not many people in this world are personable to pull any of that off. (A DJ-ish engineer, who is good at what he does, would go very, very far, both with the ladies and the men in his world).

Most graduating classes are full of nerds, and those without people skills usually end up locked in their nerdy worlds in the long run. Don’t worry too much about them. You would be too busy studying anyways. (The one guy looked like David Blaine – that’s pretty cool).
 

theapprentice

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I dont know

I feel really put off by the fact that all engineers are nerds. I've seen all the class pictures and they all seem to be jaded or just so socially inept.
Most of the time in your life is spent at work, and with your collegues, meaning that I am going to be working with the same type of people my whole life.

Thats not making me happy, bu everything else I have looked into has unusually long hours 70 hour weeks.

I am assuming engineers dont work 70 hour weeks.

I mean being in a business or law major I am sure all my collegues and co-workers will be outgoing and dating and clubbing while engieners will tend to study or when the are old enough to work avoid the socializing scene.
 

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theapprentice said:
I feel really put off by the fact that all engineers are nerds. I've seen all the class pictures and they all seem to be jaded or just so socially inept.
Most of the time in your life is spent at work, and with your collegues, meaning that I am going to be working with the same type of people my whole life.

Thats not making me happy, bu everything else I have looked into has unusually long hours 70 hour weeks.

I am assuming engineers dont work 70 hour weeks.

I mean being in a business or law major I am sure all my collegues and co-workers will be outgoing and dating and clubbing while engieners will tend to study or when the are old enough to work avoid the socializing scene.
Engineers are NOT naturally nerds, the image of engineers are different depending on the country and culture. What's a "cool" job in one country is not necessarily "cool" in another.

For example, in the US, so many guys brag about how they are attending law school, the US is a country that lives by lawsuits.:whistle: While in France no one whould give a sh*t. The crème de la crème of the elite there are attending top engineering/business/national administration schools. Being a lawyer in France isn't bad, but there's better.

However, I do agree that if after graduation, you get to do boring "engineering" jobs, like sitting in front of a computer all day long, then you are doomed to become a nerd. You are what you eat, you are also what you do.

Just for your information, most graduates from top French engineering schools don't become engineers, they become managers, they get good and "social" positions in the corporate world. So basically interest for science and technology does not equate to nerditude.

Check out what professions and education paths are most valued in you country and decide accordingly.:)
 

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See...

All corporate postitions that pay 80k or more are either lawyers or I-Bankers who work extremely long hours. Engineers work fewer hours but can end up getting paid that amount in a few years time out of school.

I dont want to be a slave to my billable hour as a lawyer, even though its sociable, and I-banking seems to be more interesting than law but you work about the same amount of hours as lawyers 75 hour weeks.

But as engineers you work behind computers and models and your 'social' aspect of life is very limited.

I feel like I dont have many options left. Making 60k is not enough to enjoy a nice comfortable life anymore in America.
 

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Here is a small piece of statistic that was presented to us in my first year:

Only 5-10% of the graduating students remain in actual engineering fields(as in design and stuff) 5 years after graduation. Most move to office/management positions. And no not ALL engineers are nerds. That's just a crazy/BS sterotype. Plus to become an I-banker you need to have an MBA, atleast it gives you an edge. With engineering you are trained to think in a different way than those arts/science/accouting people. So engineers have an edge here as well. Plus why don't you look at this way. You will be probably one of the few DJs among the nerds. Plus here in Canada, atleast in my class not all of my friends who are in engineering are nerds. Some of them are really cool.
 

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Lots of people have degrees they didn't do anything with, know why they took them, or whatever.
Don't worry mate, yo'll find waht you wanna do.

Take a year off, do some research?

Do something to do with Economics and Computing, would probably meet your chracter traits well enough.
 

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Mate,

Im a planning Engineer in the Construction Industry and its a f****** great job.

Construction is facing a major global boom and there appears to be no end to it. You should consider a career in it. Wages are rocketing, theres loads of opportunities as an employee or working for yourself. Plenty of nice desk jobs like mine, its not all construction sites.

Also you can study law and get into the legal 'claims' side of things which I am currently doing and earn a substancial paypacket.
 

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my best friend is an engineer and his job is so easy that he plays videogames and watches movies all day. now that is a sweet job. and he's not a nerd
 
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