Can't seduce what you hate

[cola]

I read in the art of seduction quite some time ago that the real Don Juan the namesake of this site was so good at seducing women because he really fell in love with them. However, just as fast as he fell in love he fell out, so on to the next target.

There is a lot of hatred towards women here. Guys I understand. You came across a woman before in your past[or maybe 2] and she played with your heart, your feelings and in some cases your wallet.

However, if you want to be a successful seducer you can't bring that hatred into the arena. You have to learn to vibe with these women. You have to really get into it. You have to really be interested when you ask her what's her hobbies, what's her 5 year plan. Get into it.

Women are really the better sex when it comes to reading people. Not in all cases but majority rules, they know what type of guy you are. They get approached every day, they have more experience than you at this. You have to learn how to turn it on when you are with her and then turn it off when you are not.

With your red pill knowledge you have learned not to be clingy or give off a needy vibe and that is all fine and well, but you would get layed more if you really take a genuine interest in women as a people.

Why do you have such disdain for them?

They test you: You view this as game playing but..
Life is a battle correct?
So you are going to battle being deployed in a week..
You have 10 guys who could potentially fight side by side with you, but can only pick one. Wouldn't it serve you to test their battle prowess? They all say they are capable in battle but how do you know who is the best..

Same with women, they are looking for partner in the battle, they have to test you to make sure you are the best candidate.

They are flakey:

OK, so you have 8s 9s and 10s walking up to you almost daily who are down to f-ck... How quick would you forget your current plate.

They branch swing

What would you do if your battle partner got weak? He used to be fit and always ready for war but then once he joined your platoon he got fat. Started eating junk, got needy, stopped working out..
Well that's what alot of guys do, get the girl and get comfortable. You'd abandon your partner too.

I could go on but I don't want to make this too long to enjoy reading..

So these are some of the reasons that we hate women
I'm hoping by breaking these things down you can understand them better, stop hating them and perhaps become a better seducer.

So synopsis/cliffnotes:


You really have to get into the chick to get results. You have to learn how to be into her when you are with her and not Just worrying about sex. But you have to learn to turn it off as well so as not to catch oneitis

When you get the girl stay fit. Keep going to the gym, keep buying new clothes and don't let her see you in a weak state too often.

Don't be so pressed for sex. They can sense it and it makes them more reluctant to give it. I know it's counter intuitive but try it.

Have fun. Be smooth. You are a Don Juan not a brute.
And as always.. Take ya butt to the gym and lift.
Peace

 

[JohnyTheArrow]

Silly advice.Not everyone can be rich or strong.Why I should be battle shield for a woman?You post fakes strength while there is beta weakness inside 'be best and they will love you' they are rich and strong people and often they arent loved, they are poor and weak and they are being loved.Being best for women makes you weak and vunerable because you desire they validate you, you must validate yourself.

 

[Trump]

There is a lot of hatred towards women here. Guys I understand. You came across a woman before in your past[or maybe 2] and she played with your heart, your feelings and in some cases your wallet.

However, if you want to be a successful seducer you can't bring that hatred into the arena. You have to learn to vibe with these women. You have to really get into it. You have to really be interested when you ask her what's her hobbies, what's her 5 year plan. Get into it.

Women are really the better sex when it comes to reading people. Not in all cases but majority rules, they know what type of guy you are. They get approached every day, they have more experience than you at this. You have to learn how to turn it on when you are with her and then turn it off when you are not.

With your red pill knowledge you have learned not to be clingy or give off a needy vibe and that is all fine and well, but you would get layed more if you really take a genuine interest in women as a people.

Why do you have such disdain for them?

So synopsis/cliffnotes:


You really have to get into the chick to get results. You have to learn how to be into her when you are with her and not Just worrying about sex. But you have to learn to turn it off as well so as not to catch oneitis

When you get the girl stay fit. Keep going to the gym, keep buying new clothes and don't let her see you in a weak state too often.

Don't be so pressed for sex. They can sense it and it makes them more reluctant to give it. I know it's counter intuitive but try it.

I don't know bro, to vibe with them? Jive with them? Get to "know" them? That's way too much effort. For me I would give 120 minutes to decide if they want to have sex, other than that its get out of my face. Who wants to get to know the girl? Think we discussed it before, the more you "vibe" with them, the more "safe" they feel and its more likely you will end up in the "friend" zone. You have to turn the heat up fast and quick, give them sense the opportunity won't always be there, in fact it will be gone within 24 hours. If you don't pressure for sex, she will take you a ride and keep your head spinning.

Sex is emotional for her, but you should be able to get that emotion out within 120 minutes, not a span of 4-5 dates spread out over a month.

 

[cola]

Here we go. Replies in bold.

Silly advice.Not everyone can be
rich or strong.
You mean you can't go to the gym, lift weights, stick to your nutrition and gradually increase the weight or sets you lift?
You mean you can't start a business or get a high paying degree or go the blue collar route and grind out hours? I didn't say sh-t about being rich in that post.

Why I should be battle shield for a woman?You post fakes strength while there is beta weakness inside 'be best and they will love you'

I don't fake anything homie. Yes, be the best. Be the most attractive man in the room. Be the most successful, be the most in shape. Be the best dressed. If you have these things going on you will find they compete for your attention.
The point of the battle analogy is women don't like weakness.

they are rich and strong people and often they arent loved, they are poor and weak and they are being loved.

Really? You don't want to recant that statement? You could be rich and have a prosthetic p-nis and you are going to pull.

I take criticism from people who are polite but you are rude.. So show me proof that you have the right to call my post silly. Pics with hot girls, pics of your house, what's your career, Show me your gym progress? Are you on the East Coast? I'm 45 minutes from DC, VA, 2 hrs from Jersey 3 from NY. I have nothing to do Saturday, come out with me to the clubs..I'll even travel half way.. That's a standing invite to anyone who thinks my posts are "silly".. Time we figure out who's just a slob talking ish from a keyboard and whos really qualified to be giving advice here

Also stop with all this Alpha/Beta sh-t you do. We aren't Wolves. Stuff isn't that black and white and if you were so "Alpha" you wouldn't be here. That sh-t is nerd speak and so narrow minded.

 

[cola]

Replies in bold

I don't know bro, to vibe with them? Jive with them? Get to "know" them? Sure man, why not? Enjoy the process. Never know might learn something, even a child can teach you a lesson if you observe

That's way too much effort.
Effort how? Really listening and not thinking about her box for a little while?
For me I would give 120 minutes to decide if they want to have sex, other than that its get out of my face. Who wants to get to know the girl?
Don't you want to know at least a little bit about the chick your about to stick the one pens you have in? Chicks can be cool if you just vibe bro.
Think we discussed it before, the more you "vibe" with them, the more "safe" they feel and its more likely you will end up in the "friend" zone. You have to turn the heat up fast and quick, give them sense the opportunity won't always be there,
That doesn't make sense to me because the opportunity is always there for them. They can go outside, ask passerbys if they want some p-ssy and be shagging In 2 minutes
in fact it will be gone within 24 hours. If you don't pressure for sex, she will take you a ride and keep your head spinning.

Sex is emotional for her, but you should be able to get that emotion out within 120 minutes
if you can get them in gear to bang in 120 minutes you need to go talk to a web developer tomorrow and make a website. You got the gift brother
, not a span of 4-5 dates spread out over a month.
Do what I say, immerse yourself and she won't make you wait a month bro. It's counterintuitive. Try less, get it faster. I know it doesn't make sense but it works IF she is attracted to you.

Thanks for respectfully voicing your opinion Trump.

 

[JohnyTheArrow]

Here we go. Replies in bold.


I take criticism from people who are polite but you are rude.. So show me proof that you have the right to call my post silly. Pics with hot girls, pics of your house, what's your career, Show me your gym progress? Are you on the East Coast? I'm 45 minutes from DC, VA, 2 hrs from Jersey 3 from NY. I have nothing to do Saturday, come out with me to the clubs..I'll even travel half way.. That's a standing invite to anyone who thinks my posts are "silly".. Time we figure out who's just a slob talking ish from a keyboard and whos really qualified to be giving advice here

Also stop with all this Alpha/Beta sh-t you do. We aren't Wolves. Stuff isn't that black and white and if you were so "Alpha" you wouldn't be here. That sh-t is nerd speak and so narrow minded.

I dont have to prove anything.You are nobody for me :yes:
You stink with beta bucks game.They are tons of ripped or rich guys who get cheated and dumped.You try to hard to prove something and it usually means low self esteem and insecurity and your advice is useless, everybody knows so muscles and money orbits women but thats all.

You are weak inside, I stated my opinion you are ready to meet in person to challenge me when in fact you should not give flying duck.You have poor control
over your self esteem and your emotions.

 

[DaddyLongShanks]

I dont have to prove anything.You are nobody for me :yes:
You stink with beta bucks game.They are tons of ripped or rich guys who get cheated and dumped.You try to hard to prove something and it usually means low self esteem and insecurity and your advice is useless, everybody knows so muscles and money orbits women but thats all.

You are weak inside, I stated my opinion you are ready to meet in person to challenge me when in fact you should not give flying duck.You have poor control
over your self esteem and your emotions.

The most Alpha men get cheated on for being an Alpha.
Guys with 9" c0cks get cheated on for being big.
Guys with large bank accounts get cheated on for being rich.
Handsome/suave guys get cheated on for being handsome.
Ones who are good with women get cheated on for being a ladies man.

Women can cheat on you for all sorts of reasons. Of course one reason is she is unhappy because you are not meeting her needs, and another is that she is competitive with you and cheating to "win". There are plenty of other reasons.

So there is no defense from being cheated on except monitoring her 24/7 with a weapon.

 

[cola]

I dont have to prove
that's because you can't b-tch.I have lost mad respect for anything you post.
anything.You are nobody for me :yes:
Right.
You stink with beta bucks game.
I don't have bucks. I make 3,000 a month after taxes. I got nothing but swag in a bag homie.

They are tons of ripped or rich guys who get cheated and dumped.
So? That's what happens when you turn a hoe into a housewife. Never said they didn't. I said what YOU can do to prevent it. Everything ain't in your control homie.
You try to hard to prove something and it usually means low self esteem and insecurity and your advice is useless
I just feel like if you pop all this sh-t on an internet forum you should be able to back it up or your not even a person, just words on a screen as far as I'm concerned.

, everybody knows so muscles and money orbits women but thats all.[
Don't even know what your trying to say here. What I got you shaking while you typing or something? Feel exposed? I know.

I don't want to meet you in person to challenge you, I want to go out with you. Around girls.. And see can you pull.. I'm 26 next month my street fighting days are over.

 

[JohnyTheArrow]

It is not possible to be best all the time.Its not possible to win all the time.If,you set yourself to 'battle mode' it may crush you.

What if you have injury ? And cant lift
What if you loose job ? And have no money
What if you are respected but loose respect because of some silly mistake ?
What if you get depressed ? And need medical assistance ?
What if you loose hair or get fat ? And loose your physical attraction

What happens with people in battle mode ? They jump out of the window.
I feel you.I was also in battle mode but I pulled back as I understood danger and pointless of
trying to be always a winner.I still try my best but Im not dead set on it.

Whatever happens happens.

I didnt say you are silly.I said in my opinion your advice is not best one.And it was enough to bend your frame and try to challenge me ... personally.Thats why too emotional reaction.If I can do that with few keyboard clicks what a woman can do with you ? Yes you want challenge me ,change my point of view ... when in fact you should stay cool.

 

[weaponx]

It is not possible to be best all the time.Its not possible to win all the time.If,you set yourself to 'battle mode' it may crush you.

What if you have injury ? And cant lift
What if you loose job ? And have no money
What if you are respected but loose respect because of some silly mistake ?
What if you get depressed ? And need medical assistance ?
What if you loose hair or get fat ? And loose your physical attraction

What happens with people in battle mode ? They jump out of the window.
I feel you.I was also in battle mode but I pulled back as I understood danger and pointless of
trying to be always a winner.I still try my best but Im not dead set on it.

Whatever happens happens.

I didnt say you are silly.I said in my opinion your advice is not best one.And it was enough to bend your frame and try to challenge me ... personally.Thats why too emotional reaction.If I can do that with few keyboard clicks what a woman can do with you ? Yes you want challenge me ,change my point of view ... when in fact you should stay cool.

What if you actually approached a woman.

 

[Jaylan]

Here we go. Replies in bold.


I take criticism from people who are polite but you are rude.. So show me proof that you have the right to call my post silly. Pics with hot girls, pics of your house, what's your career, Show me your gym progress? Are you on the East Coast? I'm 45 minutes from DC, VA, 2 hrs from Jersey 3 from NY. I have nothing to do Saturday, come out with me to the clubs..I'll even travel half way.. That's a standing invite to anyone who thinks my posts are "silly".. Time we figure out who's just a slob talking ish from a keyboard and whos really qualified to be giving advice here

Also stop with all this Alpha/Beta sh-t you do. We aren't Wolves. Stuff isn't that black and white and if you were so "Alpha" you wouldn't be here. That sh-t is nerd speak and so narrow minded.

Good posts.

Ill talk you up on that offer one of these days. You sound like my kinda wing man.

It is not possible to be best all the time.Its not possible to win all the time.If,you set yourself to 'battle mode' it may crush you.

What if you have injury ? And cant lift
What if you loose job ? And have no money
What if you are respected but loose respect because of some silly mistake ?
What if you get depressed ? And need medical assistance ?
What if you loose hair or get fat ? And loose your physical attraction

What happens with people in battle mode ? They jump out of the window.
I feel you.I was also in battle mode but I pulled back as I understood danger and pointless of
trying to be always a winner.I still try my best but Im not dead set on it.

Whatever happens happens.

I didnt say you are silly.I said in my opinion your advice is not best one.And it was enough to bend your frame and try to challenge me ... personally.Thats why too emotional reaction.If I can do that with few keyboard clicks what a woman can do with you ? Yes you want challenge me ,change my point of view ... when in fact you should stay cool.

Dude, so many excuses in this post. And youre trying to call someone else beta? Your post does not sound uplifting or encouraging at all. Cola's post makes me want to go out and have fun around the ladies. Your post makes me shake my head and feel bad for any men who ever sit around telling themselves such things.

 

[Suspens]

Who is hating who.

 

[HeadLightsOn]

Cola. I liked your post. It was informative and good to read. If I was in your area I'd def head out w u for some fun and games. I agree with what you said, in general, so I wouldn't worry too much about some of the more full on tear downs you received.

I 'like' most women, but def do not put up with unnecessary Princess sh1t. I've had my girl problems, but generally have a positive and outgoing attitude with females. It works. I've literally never had so much slit as I have at the moment.

Keep posting. Cheers.

 

[Poon King]

You don't have to like women to f*ck them anymore than you have to speak Chinese to eat Chinese food.

Also the idea that a man must "seduce" a woman comes from the mindset that men have something to prove to women. No man who thinks highly of himself needs to prove anything to any woman ever.

Seducing a woman is a desperate attempt to manipulate BECAUSE the man believes he will fail being his authentic self. Seducing to get laid is idiotic because its not necessary. Seducing to get a relationship is even more idiotic because you will spend the entire relationship putting on a fake persona just to keep one dumb b!tch happy. There are better things to do with your time. :crackup:

 

[thatfeel]

This thread was pretty pointless til the poon king laid it on nice and thick

 

[Pardner]

Fantastic thread Cola. Ignore all the jokers tearing down your thread, they can't get any women at all. Great title to your thread, they hate women and can't seduce them.

This thread was pretty pointless til the poon king laid it on nice and thick

This thread is pointless to guys like you and Poon King who can't get any real women to seduce. Women don't want anything to do with you guys, so you seethe with anger hating them putting on a fake alpha internet persona pretending it doesn't bother you.

 

[skinnyguy]

Poon King came on here and validated the very contradiction that cola pointed out.

 

[weaponx]

Poon King came on here and validated the very contradiction that cola pointed out.

Pretender King is here trolling trying seduce men into being 'suspect' by using generalized negative things that could apply to any human and trying to pin them specifically on women.

AFC King nonsense is a mere coping mechanism that "works" on other so-called "men" who are just as frustrated, angry and jaded as he is because they can't always have what they're entitled to while not wanting to do anything to get it and pretending they "don't care". It's humorous at best.

 

[Frostman]

Lot of negative people posting in this thread.

 

[Tictac]

I love women! And I love the chase.

Guys that whine about women are like bad fisherman. They blame the fish, the water, the pole, the bait - anything but themselves.

You learn to catch fish or you don't. If you don't you're not going to enjoy fishing anyway. You may even talk sh*t about people that are good at it.

Who cares? Let 'em whine.