Hey guys. I have recently started working out again, but, as usual, I seem to be having trouble with my biceps. I can feel the burn in all the muscles I work except for my biceps. I use dumb bells and I do all I can, but for some reason my biceps just don't ache like the rest of my muscles do. Am I doing something wrong? Is it normal to not "feel it" in my biceps? Thanks.
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Can't feel it in my biceps
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You have to increase the reps or weight. Simple enough.
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LOLmrRuckus said:
this is true. how about if I told you Markovski that your biceps can grow without any actual direct training.. would you still want the burn then?
Quagmire911
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I think people are being born without initiative these days.
Are you talking about me? If I had no initiative then I wouldn't be lifting. Nuf said.Quagmire911 said:I think people are being born without initiative these days.
No. I train them though because I have abnormally long arms and I want the muscles on them to therefore be abnormally large to balance it out.Warboss Alex said:
Essentially my question is this: Do you think that I am working them hard enough then if I am lifting until i can't do anymore reps, but all my muscles except my biceps hurt?
Quagmire911
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You ever heard of the word, D-e-a-d-l-i-f-t before?
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Hurting has nothing to do with growth. Go ride a bike for six hours, you'll be sore but you won't grow..Markovski said:
However, work up to a 500 x 10 a2g squat and conventional deadlift, never do a bicep curl, and your arms will still be plenty bigger.
Ensure you keep getting stronger for reps in all your exercises and the arms will take care of themselves.
How does a deadlift help with biceps? I am a lifting newb, but heres where I found deadlift: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadlift. Thanks for the prompt responses, except for quagmire, who is a jackass.
How does a deadlift help with biceps? It seems like it barely works the arms. It seems mostly to be legs and back. Also, I don't have access to a barbell, will dumbells work just as well? I can't imagine it would be much different.
Quagmire911
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Markovski said:
Read this:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=125444
Apply it for 6months and then tell me if that your arms haven't grown
Find a way to get access to an olympic barbell, everyone can it just requires some persistence and looking around. Dumbbells have their place but if you don't have access to a barbell then I seriously doubt your dumbbells will go heavy enough to induce proper weight and strength gain. Your also limited in your training if you were to only use dumbbells. I know it can work for deads and obviously bench, but they are **** for squats. You're better off doing it with a barbell.
Quagmire
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50 - 100 pull ups and your arms will feel sore for several days that will probably be better than your best arm workout ever, No one I know including myself ever gets sore biceps from direct training.
The Inside Man
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Here is a bicep workout to severely kick your ass and make you cry for your mommy.
Hammer curls-4 sets of 8-10 with as heavy a weight as you can do with good form. I use 55-60lbs. It should be really difficult.
"Crushers"
Get a 25, 30, and 35 pound sets of dumbbells. This is basically a drop set. Lift the 35 8-10 times(or comparable weight for your strength), drop it and immediately pick up 30s, then with 25s. 2 sets will make your arms explode. 3-4 is even harder. Eventually move all the weights up to 40, 35, 30. Finish this workout off with some preacher or cable curls and I promise your arms will be sore, and more importantly will be shocked into growth.
It takes a different kind of determination to get through workouts like this but do them properly and they will reward you with Strength AND Size. I usually do triceps with them also, in a similar fashion. PM if interested.
Hammer curls-4 sets of 8-10 with as heavy a weight as you can do with good form. I use 55-60lbs. It should be really difficult.
"Crushers"
Get a 25, 30, and 35 pound sets of dumbbells. This is basically a drop set. Lift the 35 8-10 times(or comparable weight for your strength), drop it and immediately pick up 30s, then with 25s. 2 sets will make your arms explode. 3-4 is even harder. Eventually move all the weights up to 40, 35, 30. Finish this workout off with some preacher or cable curls and I promise your arms will be sore, and more importantly will be shocked into growth.
It takes a different kind of determination to get through workouts like this but do them properly and they will reward you with Strength AND Size. I usually do triceps with them also, in a similar fashion. PM if interested.
The Inside Man
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oh in the previous post, 8-10 reps each of the 35, 30, and 25 pound all together counts as one set. So in one dropset you have actually done 24-30 reps.
No need for stuff like that.Quagmire911 said:I think people are being born without initiative these days.
He's just asking questions, where does lack of initiative come into it? He obviously just doesn't know the technical stuff.
Quagmire911
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There is an abundance of information in stickies, old posts etc. I'd call that lack of initiative.shaunuk said:
I've given further advice above.
As for Drum&Bass's 50-100 pullups-I don't know what to say. I think it is a great recipe for success :crackup:
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Some people could maybe manage 5x10, but 10x10? That will lead to over training. And weighted pullups 5x10 would be seriously pushing it for most.Drum&Bass said:
Many beginners can't even manage 10, maybe 5 if there lucky. Are you proposing a 20x5?
For strength/mass once you get past 12-15 you are wasting your time and should be moving onto weighted anyway.
Quagmire
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if your not eating and resting properly I'd agree with you about over-training..and your right, moving up to weighted pull ups is ideal..
but before moving on to weights you should be able to do 50 - 100 in under an hour..forget about sets and reps.
if your a beginner that can't manage that amount..work your way up to it
but before moving on to weights you should be able to do 50 - 100 in under an hour..forget about sets and reps.
if your a beginner that can't manage that amount..work your way up to it
and what about 20 rep squats ? 12 -15 reps IS ABSOLUTELY DEFINITELY NOT a waste of time and DOES BUILD MUSCLE, any resistance against your muscles makes you stronger...your body just adapts and gets STRONG ENOUGH to overcome resistance in a routine but you should be varying reps and sets every time you work out.