Can women be loyal and trustworthy?

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And Rollo's examples are the reason I think women are the major perpetrators of the high divorce rate in this country. They live for the moment, not the future.

Also, I don't think there's enough shame in our society. We don't need to become puritanical, but getting a divorce shouldn't be as easy as buying a new shirt.

Insanity reigns in the U.S. ... I hope the lady in Vegas some day wakes up from sleeping under a bridge begging for mercy, and I'm not joking, I'm serious. These people need to be brought to their knees in mental anguish to be humbled.
 

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I think you need to look at a women's background and belief system to determine how loyal and trustworthy she can be.

No one is 100% loyal and trustworthy. We are all opportunistic creatures. If there is a belief that we can get away with it and gain something as a result we will be tempted to do so.

Its more like a game of percentage. If you have a bisexual girlfriend who is a stripper, had come from a broken home and distrusts men there is a very good chance that based upon her background and belief system that there is a higher chance of her cheating (If we give the chances of cheating a 50% chance, this woman will probably be in the 80-90% zone to be prone to cheat)

If you have a woman that was raised by both loving parents, has high morals and values, is an HB6-7, and respects and follow's her husband in a traditional sense the chances of her cheating is probably below 10%.

In a sense nothing is full proof, it could still happen. That is why when we book a trip to go somewhere we never go for the worst deal available just to gain something because there is a higher chance things can go wrong. If you are flying Air Canada would you really want to switch your ticket to Ethiopian airlines just to save $500? no because there is a higher chance that the plane will crash. Air Canada could still crash but the percentage of that chance is less then 1%.

In order for women to be loyal and trustworthy it is

a) up to us to pick the best kind of woman out there.

b) Hope that she won't cheat because it can still happen. There are some that will never cheat and there are others who will. If we pick well that percentage of cheating will drops as well.

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The majority of these posts are guys hoping for a PERFECT, SURE thing, as if it exists. Can we agree it doesn't?

Guys, even we're not perfect, and as much as you DO NOT want to be hurt by a woman, or figure if she isn't perfect, you won't committ, you must first live by your principles and values, for yourself, SO IN THE EVENT you're blind-sided for whatever, you can prepare and be ready to move on.

Too many people, even young guys not yet married, believe in the permanence of the relationship. Or are so SHOCKED when something goes awry, they become immobile. This isn't to say that you have to be "negative", but just be watchful.

People in my family I never thought would divorce have. An uncle who was like a second father had told me in HIS words, "he was only separating for a little to get straight after a DUI." This was 2 summers ago and he was the President of a Local Boston Firm. Only months later he files for divorce, and on VALENTINE's day, it's complete. Here's a guy who has 4 children, a multil million dollar firm, and what appear to be 1 of the strongest marriages we felt possible, and he's divorced his wife and 4 kids. He can be found on Match.com now.

So does life change? Absolutely. Most people can't accept that or deal with it, because they act as if it will never happen. And that was the crux of my other thread. Change happens on all fronts, it is so slow that by the time it sets it, it's too late.

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The things is, and I can see where friv is getting frustrated in other posts, is that you have 100% responsibility, and I mean that COMPLETELY. In the beginning, you say "yeah well, I get it, and I'll care, and I'll watch out, and if something happens, at least I know it can." BUT IT CAN.

Sometimes we want to attribute a woman being so quiet or distant as being upset over a recent fight, or stressed out, or worse, depressed. But over a long-enough time period, it could be more than that, and the fault lies in the fact that "men just accept that." Maybe it's selfish, but if you're constantly evaluting if a relationship is making you happy and if you're on a good course, you'll be more aware. Just like you would do with work or with finances. At least this way you're not surprised by anything.

Looking back, the times I was most shocked by a break up was when I LOST SIGHT OF MY OWN HAPPINESS. Why? Because normally when a person is becoming distant, or changes are around the corner, a woman WILL act different. Maybes there's less sex. Or her schedule changes. Or she's not affectionate or excited when she's around you. Or her favorite things are done and gone. Whatever it maybe, it becomes a slow changing process, and one day you "just accept that this is what happens." NO! It doesn't.

Ever see the vast amount of threads about guys who allow their woman to hang with totally new guys? Or booze it loads of nights now? Or she's UNSEXUAL (wrong word)? Or she's NOT affectionate? Or she's...whatever?

THESE are critical things! Seriously. They are. Aren't they the BASIS for getting together? You're better off hearing "you're not affectionate anymore" because it demonstrates she's desiring of it, then "i found someone new." And if you WAIT too long to correct something, knowing how ladies are with their emotions, it will tip past the turning point.

SO DO NOT LET IT HAPPEN!

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Alot of this deals with the EASY American culture we have. And I'll be bold and say, the WORST situations in America are BETTER than MOST situations in other countries. We forget where we came from and what we have before us. We forget how the world is outside the walls and conspiracy theorists, and terrorists and idealists (myself included). That there's murder, rape, kidnappings, no health care, low birth counts, poverty, war, disease, no wealth, no political stability, no economy.

And sure you might say "well I can move to XYZ country." Fine and Dandy. BUT HAD you not been BORN in the US, Canada or say Europe or Australia, IT MIGHT NOT BE POSSIBLE to move in the first place. Because if you couldn't amass any wealth to move, you'd be living a pipe dream of titanic proportions.

YES, women and even men, are OVER-priviledged in our country. What is common PLACE here, is REALLY a luxury in another country, and that in and of itself creates EGOTISTICAL MONSTERS. We're all a bunch of dumb apes, crying over the creatures of life, trying to feed our fragile egos, because most people are unsure in 1 way or another.

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To me ALOT of the heart-ache, especially of the BAD BOY SYNDROME hinges on that DREAMY aspect we have. Alot of us have big dreams, of grand women. We're told to be specific, and when it walks in to our life, seize it. We've all dayed hoards of women. I've dated a few I felt walked right out of a PORNO dream, and while I dated them, wondering if they'd come around, it never happened. Sure, we'd hook up now and then and go on dates, but the nature of the relationship never progressed.

People who drop their family or even just drop their life do much the same thing. It's ok to do, just pay the penalties if any come to fruition. Same goes for guys dating slvts here. Just know you can't turn a hoe into a housewife.

Really, you'll never have a good relationship with a woman UNLESS she succumbs to you leading, because her flightly, flaky nature will keep you in a rollercoaster of emotion, so you'll never know if you're together, or not. And so unless a woman can sort of settle down, and you can find trust in her, it's worthless. Yeah, she might come around, but let her PROVE it, through doing, NOT JUST saying. Lots of girls will pop back into your lives, but just because they do, and they promise to CHANGE, give it time. Let it be months or even a year before you CHANGE your judgement on them.

I've done it quite often. Many girls fall off the face of the earth, then they come back months later "realizing" things, promising changes, regretting leaving. They're nostalgic for the past, but that's just it, the time has past, and new memories formed. She expects it to be different, or the same, but guess what, it's the PEOPLE who remain the same, who cares about the relationship. And that's just it. Relationships are TEMPORARY, people are PERMANENT.

If you find a girl who's GOOD at the core, you can work with, CHANGE with, and GROW with, you can have a long-term relationship. But if your relationship is only built on EXTERNAL things of today, it will dissolve the minute 1 of you changes.

The most basic example is friendships. Very often they're built on mutual interests. It's a given that they are good people, but you spend time with a friend normally because of commonality. When those things change, so does the relationship. Sure you might keep in touch, but you're not the same relationship.

Same with women. In High School, you have girlfriends you date. When it ends, meaning High School, normally going to College is enough to end the relationship because the commonality ends. You don't frequent the same parties, have the same interests, or same scene around you. If you invest lots of time into each other, say on the weekends, it might fly, but you'll still have to be part of each other's worlds to maintain that relationship.

As you progress beyond college, even more drastic changes occur. The first major job or career. Moving out. Bills. Moving around the country. Etc. That's the time, where couples can stick together because there's more freedom, your'e a bit more grown and have the opportunity to be together more.


Don't worry, be happy.



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My trust paradigm is simple. I use it regardless of gender, and it's served me well, over the years.

1.) Don't trust anyone you don't know.
2.) Give everyone you do know the benefit of trust, until they prove otherwise.
3.) Once trust is broken, there is no further relationship, period.
 

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We don't have total control

... A woman could say she loves you, marry you, have kids with you, buy a home with you -- then up and cheat or leave you, clean you out and call it a day. No way we have total control ... unless you haven't been following divorce procedings these days. The most honorable men are left not taking care of the kids and living in a 1-bedroom apartment, while the judge grants the cheater with the kids as she moves in with new boyfriend.

Control? Uh, no, we don't have total control. Anyone who thinks men have total control in this country has been in hibernation for 20 years.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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great posts guys. i mean really great.

its good to see this board getting down to the real issues that destroy relationships.

this is why i say, you have to be able to stand on your own two feet.

its precisely because women, or at least most, CANT stand on their own two feet for very long that they are constantly searching for a man.

and ill tell you this, its generally NOT them looking to upgrade. its generally that they start to worry that you aren't putting them on a pedestal, and this means you dont care as much and that means you will leave them...eventually. or cheat on them.

so their worst fears create a self fulfilling prophecy. they go out and get someone else so that they dont get hurt first.

but if you are happy with yourself, and are a man who stands on his own two feet.... you will be every woman's dreams. she will know that she can't do better than you. and trust me, she will FEAR taking the chance of "moving up" only to find out the new guy didn't stack up to you.

everyone is responsible for their own lives in this life, even in a LTR. So take care of your business, your emotional, physical and spiritual health and things will be fine. hand those over to someone else to safe guard, and it will be a disaster.

J
 

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Friv -- exception to the rule

My opinion isn't one-sided ... your mom was on the rare losing end for women.

Check the statistics: Women get the kids about 90 percent of the time in this country.

That's not one-sided.
 

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Supply & Demand

I think it was Mack Jr, that said that if 40% of women are loyal, and 10% are HB10's, then you are limited to 4% of women. However, I don't think loyalty is necessarily evenly distributed among the different levels of attractivness, which is your assumption.

I think, generally speaking, the more privledged one is both financially and genetically (looks), the more one demands, thus their loyalty holds a higher price...only because they are in very high demand. Thus, HB10's know they can pretty much interest just about any man they want, thus they look to get the best man possible (looks, $$, personality, etc). Its simply biological capitalism, social darwinism applied to the dating scene.
 

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Something Left Out.

As humans, we have the inexplainable ability to make the SIMPLE, DIFFICULT and COMPLEX.

We are simple.

Girls themselves are SIMPLE, but act, react, and emote in very confusing ways to cover up their complexities. To a logically complex mind as man's, it seems confusing and complex. But again, it's simple.

Girls themselves are PRODUCTS of their home. Heck we are all PRODUCTS of our childhood, seeking to re-create or HAVE what we had as childish egos. Girls with no home, no father, no mother, no love, no toys, will really lack an identity. They'll lack the understanding of what their "grounding" is. There will exist no "equilibrium" for her to see out. She doesn't know the METHOD to success that comes with creating a secure, warm, nurturing, happy home.

THIS is why they bounce from bed, to bed, to apartment, to state, to job. They never knew who they were as a child, never had a chance to find it out, so they're not seeking it later on in life. Only, we can compare things and make decisions when we have SOMETHING to compare them to.

A girl from something of a broken home, as are a large majority of women today are, has nothing but insanity to compare her life to, so her "yardstick" is very off. That's like meters to feet. You'd be miles off if you built things with the wrong measurement tools. There's no BASIS. Sure, she has the feminine motivation to create a warm home, but none of the tools. She has no identity. No grounding. No sense of example. And most women, WILL NEVER BUCK THIS TREND until MUCH later in life. Say, when she burns herself out in the 30's or 40's.

ALOT of older women who led a HARD life, will say "I wish" I had...

How many young scraps have met a girl from some random home, where only the mother exists, or the father exists, or the grandparents exists, and they say "He's a keeper." But she can't see that, because she has no comparison. It isn't her fault, totally, it's up to the man to SEE this. Ignoring this part is why people feel homes can survive with only 1 parent, or why polygamy is being valued over monogomy. Fine, you don't want to marry, don't, but don't raise kids either.


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There's a certain PROPENSITY for women to seek the PUA's out, especially the one's from broken homes.

Do you really think a girl with a warm and fuzzy family, one who has her college paid for, one who has strong values, parents, love, caring, and even beauty, is going to SQUANDER that?

Fark no. We've all known girls from A to Z, and there are exceptions, but the MORE ownership parents claim over their kids during their formative years, the healthier they become. It helps "right" the ship, and refocuses values on what's Important and what's Not.


"Water seeks it's level."

Girls do the same. Bytches with farked up pasts NORMALLY seek the same out. Sure they seek, peace, but over time they reject it for more insanity. On occasion, you have a girl who when she's young, THINKS she wants the HS QB, or the Bad Guy, get's into a series of realationships, and develops bad habits toward relationships, but this situation can be turned around.

I've dated the beautiful prom queen type who dated the smart ape guy in HS, and tried to replicate it throughout college, too. She THOUGHT she wanted one type of guy, only to realize it was a wasteful search. She develops BAD habits, and WEAK guys give into them. Really. You have to see it though. And then call her on it. And then back up what you say.

I really don't care about the ALPHA theories, or that girls want to fvck blah blah, blah, not my reality, not my belief, not my world, not my types of girls. I'm about me. My happiness. What I was put here for. That's all the concern necessary for living. Everything outside that is noise and distraction, so why care? You can't bend genetics. You can't determine alpha or betaness. All you can do is act, think, and act again.

Live. So we can't determine WHY girls fvck who they want? So what. You want to share in the market of women offering sex? Very easy. But if you want to IMPROVE with women...it would be MORE than just getting PVSSY, but good pvssy, and then taking care of that pvssy. To me, the getting is easy, it's the tending to it and keeping it where the real work comes in. Likes sales, every sales person can get lucky, but it's the service work afterwards that's a bytch.

Guys get so rattled up in the emotions of what women want, don't want, do, don't do, flaking, negging, other guys, being big...sounds like alot of nancy bullshyt to me. WOMEN GO to men to be the ROCK in their lives, not just now, BUT FOREVER. So why are guys jumping on that ship of emotion by even caring? Get the fark off!

Yeah, you're here to learn, grow, grasp what goes on, improve socially, improve with women YOU DO like, not just club and bar wenches who won't say HI, and so on. Some guys hail from ultra cut-throat New York, others are from the boonies of Maine or Oregon. Wherever you're from, the bottom line is you're happiness and how a woman equates TO THAT. To me, accepting a woman LESS than that, or who doesn't provide it, isn't about HAPPINESS, it's about need, you sacrifice your values. Happiness for supposed sex. WHOOPPDDEEEDOOOOOO.

There's TONS of value here, more than most guys see, but use it to be aware, then just get away. Contribute, spit words back n forth, whatever.


I'm out.


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Originally posted by WestCoaster
American women (and men) have been so corrupted by our culture, it's just sick. The media/advertising dictates how people think, act, feel, buy, and relate to people.
This idea that the media controls people gets tossed around on here frequently, and it is completely incorrect.

Your posts are great man, but you and many others are WAY off base if you think that the media is the egg and the end result (a screwed up society) is the chicken.

The media is for the most part a profit driven machine. It REACTS to what people want to see. I will agree that it perpetuates the cycle of stupidity, but you are blaming something as if it had a life of it's own and an evil agenda hellbent on the downfall of society. People want to see skinny models....that's what sell clothes so that's what you see on commercials.

If tv were around back in the days when "plump" women were considered to be more desirable, guess what kind of women would be in the ads?

The blame needs to be placed on the PEOPLE. Personal responsibility. The media isn't turning out hoardes of idiots, people do it to themselves and then look for someone or something else to blame.
 

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man i really like this A-units posts.

this guy has a top notch head on his shoulders.

being a man, a real man, is about accepting the way the world is, developing your own path, not b*tching about the draw back and never selling yourself out to anyone.

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Agree somewhat A-Unit, but most people put their brain on neutral and have American society drive it for them. So true, they are letting others dictate what is going on. However, if content was changed out there, some of society would change. I think the world would be better without MTV -- kids are very impressionable, people are swayed. Not everyone is a Mensa genius. Most often take what is fed them. Sad, but true.

School teaches one how to memorize, not learn. So years and years of schooling have taught us how to NOT think for ourselves. I blame American society for this more than people.

As for skinny models? EVERY guy I know hates toothpick models and likes bigger women. That is force fed us from a bunch of ad people who only see women from a Madison Avenue point of view.

This has caused an anorexia problem in our country. Whether young girls can think for themselves is part of the problem; a bigger problem is this enormous media influence in our country. We can't go screaming down the street, "THINK FOR YOURSELVES" but we sure can rip the sh-t out of the media and show how destructive it is, as well as our culture. I'd rather end anorexia by destroying the model image than to just hope some day media will quiet down and young girls won't pay attention.

To continue doing the same thing over and over again and expecting change -- to paraphrase Einstein -- is a sign of insanity. American society needs changing.

I'd rather point those things out than say, "Everyone should just think like me."
 

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Originally posted by GirlCrazy
My trust paradigm is simple. I use it regardless of gender, and it's served me well, over the years.

1.) Don't trust anyone you don't know.
2.) Give everyone you do know the benefit of trust, until they prove otherwise.
3.) Once trust is broken, there is no further relationship, period.
A little harsh but I can go along with the concept with both sexes.
 

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i agree with WC.

tv is not the chicken and the egg. it would be if everyone started watching tv when they were 25.

reality is that kids get fed this mental sh*t from a young age. the kid then grows up with all kinds of idiotic ideas of what standards are.

i do agree that people feed the machine, but hte machine has got them hooked. its like saying you can't blame crack for the drug problem. true, someone made the choice to use crack, but once they did, they lost hte ability to STOP doing crack.

TV is teh same thing. i haven't watched tv now in about 6 months. I just got absolutely sick and tired of the same cookie cutter bullsh*t that is nowhere near reality.

i no longer have any desire to ESCAPE my reality, my focus is on BETTERING my reality, and tv ain't a part of that.

i still watch movies, because at least movies still have some depth to them (probably because its more about substance and less about selling commercials).

the reality is that people are screwed up today, more so than ever before. im a pretty smart guy i'd like to think, and even i was brainwashed for the longest time. i found my way out becuase of the philosophy and psychology books ive read. but someone with average to below average intelligence has no chance as far as im concerned.

they are sheep just looking to be told in which direction to graze, and TV is showing them what to do.

im fully behind WC on this, TV has played a HUGE role in seriously screwing up the male/female dynamic in society. so many women think they should be uppity b*tches like Ally Mcbeal and so many men think they should be pathetic afc's like Ray in everybody loves raymond.

oh, and why would tv create these absurd mockumentories of real life? precisely because people are trying to escape real life. they dont want to watch something that just reminds them of their life. they want to watch something that is drastically different than their life.

but you watch enough of that sh*t and then you start to model your life after it. I mean, people are modelling their life after the script that some pot smoking idiot 25 year old wrote up in hollywood.

its pathetic.

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Fantastic thread!

I LOVE this quote by Joekker:

everyone is responsible for their own lives in this life, even in a LTR. So take care of your business, your emotional, physical and spiritual health and things will be fine. hand those over to someone else to safe guard, and it will be a disaster.

All of you guys have posted QUALITY STUFF THOUGH

*interesting sidenote

I was the king of confidence and self awareness. Going great in life. I did not have a tv (6 years). I then got a job and was exhausted hence would just sit in front of the tv. It gave me nothing as I was still tired and would rinse and repeat the same bad cycle of trying to 'rest' watching tv. Never happened.

Girlfriend left me. Broke the cycle. I have not watched tv much since and have not at all during the past 6 weeks which have been my biggest growth times.

Is it the tv? No? But tv is not really helpful for our attention spans and growth!


The key with all this is SELF DEVELOPMENT and living the life YOU WANT. Tv is not bad but it is hard to juggle living your own life whilst watching someone elses, even if theres is make believe more interesting.

I CHOOSE MY LIFE THANKS!
 

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Originally posted by joekerr31
i agree with WC.

tv is not the chicken and the egg. it would be if everyone started watching tv when they were 25.

reality is that kids get fed this mental sh*t from a young age. the kid then grows up with all kinds of idiotic ideas of what standards are.

i do agree that people feed the machine, but hte machine has got them hooked. its like saying you can't blame crack for the drug problem. true, someone made the choice to use crack, but once they did, they lost hte ability to STOP doing crack.

TV is teh same thing. i haven't watched tv now in about 6 months. I just got absolutely sick and tired of the same cookie cutter bullsh*t that is nowhere near reality.

i no longer have any desire to ESCAPE my reality, my focus is on BETTERING my reality, and tv ain't a part of that.

i still watch movies, because at least movies still have some depth to them (probably because its more about substance and less about selling commercials).

the reality is that people are screwed up today, more so than ever before. im a pretty smart guy i'd like to think, and even i was brainwashed for the longest time. i found my way out becuase of the philosophy and psychology books ive read. but someone with average to below average intelligence has no chance as far as im concerned.

they are sheep just looking to be told in which direction to graze, and TV is showing them what to do.

im fully behind WC on this, TV has played a HUGE role in seriously screwing up the male/female dynamic in society. so many women think they should be uppity b*tches like Ally Mcbeal and so many men think they should be pathetic afc's like Ray in everybody loves raymond.

oh, and why would tv create these absurd mockumentories of real life? precisely because people are trying to escape real life. they dont want to watch something that just reminds them of their life. they want to watch something that is drastically different than their life.

but you watch enough of that sh*t and then you start to model your life after it. I mean, people are modelling their life after the script that some pot smoking idiot 25 year old wrote up in hollywood.

its pathetic.

J
You have valid points, but it still comes down to the fact that the editors and managers and CEO's are REACTING to the desires of the public, not the other way around. Advertising is going to reflect the desires of the demographic that it caters to, if it is effective. Television programming has to be entertaining to attract the most viewers so they can charge MORE for people to advertise during the program. I should know....when viewership goes up I PAY MORE TO ADVERTISE ON THAT SHOW! If people want Jerry Springer crap, that's what you're going to see on t.v.

Does all this show an idealistic view of the world? Sure it does. Is everyone going to be able to look like the supermodel? Of course not. But the fact of the matter is whatever you see on t.v. might appear to be 100% crap to you and me (all I pretty much watch is Discovery HD), but it is simply responding to a demand for whatever the brainless masses want at this very moment.

If they banned t.v. and advertising and whatnot, there will still be impossibly beautiful, rich, successful people that the lower ranks will want to imitate. Then are you going to blame all of the problems of society on all of the pretty/rich/successful folks?

It's human nature to want to be the top dawg so you can take advantage of the most mating opportunities. Nothing would change if we got rid of television.

All you are doing is agreeing with the EXCUSES these lame-assed people use to justify their poor choices and behaviour in life. We don't need finger pointing, we need personal accountability. You always say to hold women accountable for their actions, that goes for men as well. Individuals are to blame, not corporations.
 

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Originally posted by yendor28
Fantastic thread!

I LOVE this quote by Joekker:

everyone is responsible for their own lives in this life, even in a LTR. So take care of your business, your emotional, physical and spiritual health and things will be fine. hand those over to someone else to safe guard, and it will be a disaster.

All of you guys have posted QUALITY STUFF THOUGH

*interesting sidenote

I was the king of confidence and self awareness. Going great in life. I did not have a tv (6 years). I then got a job and was exhausted hence would just sit in front of the tv. It gave me nothing as I was still tired and would rinse and repeat the same bad cycle of trying to 'rest' watching tv. Never happened.

Girlfriend left me. Broke the cycle. I have not watched tv much since and have not at all during the past 6 weeks which have been my biggest growth times.

Is it the tv? No? But tv is not really helpful for our attention spans and growth!


The key with all this is SELF DEVELOPMENT and living the life YOU WANT. Tv is not bad but it is hard to juggle living your own life whilst watching someone elses, even if theres is make believe more interesting.

I CHOOSE MY LIFE THANKS!
You make an excellent point. I think I'm going to take a page from your book.:up:
 

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A-Unit...GREAT posts...

You guys really, really need to listen to him. He is sharing some phenomenal wisdom with you all and it's posts like these that will give you the right mindset to be successful in not just dating and relationships, but in life as a whole. He's talking about the accountability and responsibility that we all...both men and women, need to take in our own life. We can't just sit back and blame and hate on the other sex. Through focusing on our own choices and behavior we have true power in how things go for us. In the end, it is our choices and how wisely we make them that determines how things go for us. And in the end...the only person we can "fix" or "change" is ourselves. It's a waste of time to focus on anything BUT ourselves and how we can be better and more successful in life.
 

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TV is a huge problem

Props to joekerr for not watching TV for 6 months. I only watch college sports (at a sports bar/I don't have cable), The Simpsons, and Law & Order -- which has turned into a pile of sh-t this year. I'll probably just wean TV out, buy Simpsons on DVD and that will be it.

I know couples who have the TV on at all times, with kids in the house. It's total corruption and when you're fed it from an early age, it's tough to get off of. Heck, I've been a TV-a-holic at times, it's not healthy.

Yes, we have to make our own choices, but when you've been programmed a certain way your entire life, it's tough to de-program. One thing we're not taught in American society is how to de-program ourselves. This site helps.

* Another great Simpsons line:

Bart: "I'm bored, there's nothing to do."
Homer: "You can always watch TV."
Bart: "C'mon, TV sucks."
Homer: "Don't you EVER talk bad about TV in this house!"
 
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