Can this be saved?

[KillingTime]

Ok first time that I have NOT been a nice guy, known this girl for like two years... for like the 1st year and a half I had no intentions of anything, last six months were VERY flirty.... i wanted her so bad but I kept my cool and kept acting really confident, pretty flirty and i did give a few hints that i might be interested but at the same time I ignored her every now and then.... seemed to be working, she finally broke down and told me she liked me etc.... suddenly she freaked out or something though and said she wasn't ready for a relationship and stuff.... she said she really liked me but shes just not ready, but as soon as she is she will let me know.... so we've still been really flirty, im still doing the ****y/funny/flirty thing..... but do you think this is still salvagable? (SP?) I got a little "sweet" when she told me she liked me, but I quickly went back to the confident attitude... i don't think it was too noticeable... she seems interested, she went on a school trip yesterday and told me how she would miss me and might even shed a tear... and how shed be thinking of me and junk... i really like her but is it still worth it?

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Make yourself unavailable, she'll like you more!

When she said she wasn't ready you should have told her to call you when she was "ready" and not talk to her until then!

 

[HuuBinh]

i think all that **** is bs, she likes you but she's not ready? i think she's just saying that to fill time gap between you and a better guy. make a physical move on her, she won't resist if she's interested.

 

[JustDoItAlways]

Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
Make yourself unavailable, she'll like you more!

When she said she wasn't ready you should have told her to call you when she was "ready" and not talk to her until then!

See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. YOU do not have enough experience in these situations.

The last (8 or 9) chicks that have said to me that they are "not ready for a relationship" were calling me boyfriend within a week.

Do not listen to this ******** speak, listen to what they do. Women use the "I'm not ready for a relationship" almost like small-talk conversation filler whenever having a relationship with you has actually crossed her mind.

Get it, she was thinking about having a relationship with you. She would not have brought it up otherwise. Doesn't mean she will actually go for it but "totally backing off" now is absolutely the worst thing you can do now.

You should, hoever, back-off for a day or so, let her think more about it, let her talk it over amongst her friends, give her a chance to self-talk her way into it. And then you grab your balls and go full bore on her.

This technique works 85% of the time after you get the I'm not ready speech.

 

[KillingTime]

Yea i thought about that afterwards but it was too late... I still tried to stay as cool as possible (oh man, about a year ago i prolly would have been begging her to be my g/f lol) Also sorry if the post wasn't very detailed, I was really hungry. That all happened about two weeks ago, since then I've just acted like it was no big deal and am trying to keep the interest level as high as possible. Gonna be really flirty, then ignore her for a day or two, then flirty etc... hope that goes well. Im just really hoping that when she said that when she was ready shed let me know wasn't BS.... she isn't doing anything that seems "lets just be friends"... so i hope I can still save this one.

 

[JustDoItAlways]

KillingTime, my points about you don't have enough experience were directed to PRL not you.

Don't continue waiting, go for it now.

Waiting a day or so is for right after she gives you the speech. Sounds like she has already had time to do the self-talk stuff.

But the other word of advice I have is in terms of the school trip. Always give a chick a few days after a trip to resettle back into their normal life. More break-ups and screw-ups happen right after a chick takes a trip than at any other time.

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Killing - you known her for two years and you have been flirting with her for six months and then she tells you she likes you but she is not 'ready' and that she might shed a tear for you when she leaves for her trip.

Everything is known here (she knew that you like her for 2 years -this is obvious to her)...so your best bet is to act aloof and uncaring but not to the point of callousness, and let her contact you. She said she'll tell you when she is ready, so why even pursue further. If you continue to pursue her it may hinder further interest instead of help.

If you do what justdoit says you'll look desperate.To continuosly pursue a girl works, but it wreaks of afc'ness.

You already have her, if she was sincere in her comments, so now it is just a matter of time. By you not agressively pursuing her and waiting for her to initiate the call will call her out on her bullshyt, if she wasn't sincere!

 

[JustDoItAlways]

KillingTime, I've changed my mind after what PRL posted.

Its better if you do nothing and KillmoreTime.

Wait for her to make a move on you. That will make you look less desperate and more manly. LOL.

PRL, how many times have you succesfully pulled a chick by waiting for her to call you. How much "experience" have you had with this move.

On one hand, you say women don't pursue men. On the other, you are telling these guys to wait for the chick to call them. On the other, you are saying that any chick who pursues a guy is hor. On the other, you say any chick who has sex is a hor.

Doesn't add up.

I'm sure you mean well. But you are getting the principles mixed up. Stay away from women that are bad for you, Yes. The man has to make the moves, Yes. Your effort is better spent on chicks that actually have interest in you, Yes. Chicks are attracted to masculine men, Yes. Don't be a desperate AFC, Yes.

But, wait for her to call you and make all the moves, No. Listen to what women say, No. Don't try to have sex with her, No.

Strike while the iron is hot, Yes.

Show the girl that you been too-shy-to-date-with that you actually have manly balls, Yes.

If she flakes on you again after this much (no-actual-action) work, should you move on, Probably try one more time with your balls attached this time.

Do you actually get the girl if you never see her or talk to her or put a real move on her, NO.

Are women attracted to men that wait by the phone for them to call, NO.

Are women attracted to men of action, YES.

 

[squirrels]

Originally posted by KillingTime
Ok first time that I have NOT been a nice guy, known this girl for like two years... for like the 1st year and a half I had no intentions of anything, last six months were VERY flirty.... i wanted her so bad but I kept my cool and kept acting really confident, pretty flirty and i did give a few hints that i might be interested but at the same time I ignored her every now and then.... seemed to be working, she finally broke down and told me she liked me etc.... suddenly she freaked out or something though and said she wasn't ready for a relationship and stuff.... she said she really liked me but shes just not ready, but as soon as she is she will let me know.... so we've still been really flirty, im still doing the ****y/funny/flirty thing..... but do you think this is still salvagable? (SP?) I got a little "sweet" when she told me she liked me, but I quickly went back to the confident attitude... i don't think it was too noticeable... she seems interested, she went on a school trip yesterday and told me how she would miss me and might even shed a tear... and how shed be thinking of me and junk... i really like her but is it still worth it?

You smell that? Smells like BULLSH!T.

No, not you, your girl. First she likes you, then she doesn't want to get involved, then she's talking about missing you and thinking of you...utter bullsh!t.

Ignore it all and move on her like you would any other girl...which you SHOULD have been doing for the past 6 months. "Hard to get" is OK to a point, but not 6 months of hard to get. She probably wants you because you're the ****y, confident type, but it's been 6 months and you STILL haven't made an assertive move. So she's not sure you're the man for the job, but she's got so much invested in this infatuation...

Actually, fvck analyzing this situation. If you want to sex this girl, you need to up the intimacy. NOT lose the c&f confident attitude, NOT supplicate to her, just increase the intimacy. Read http://gunwitch.fastseduction.com mainly for tips on "sexual state." Learn to be close to women and not only be COMFORTABLE with it, but have FUN with it.