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Can I trust this new girl?

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I met my new gf about 6 weeks ago. We met on a cold approach at a bookstore. Yes, it is possible. Anyway, she is very attractive physically, and is 25. Apparently, until about 2 years ago, she was 60 pounds overweight. In her own words, she was “chubby” her whole life until 2 years ago. Now she is slender. She is constantly hit on by men. She is very, very attractive, and her self-esteem is just now catching up with her new good looks.

After about 2 or 3 weeks of dating, she had a big talk with me about whether we were exclusive. She explained there is a guy she works with who is a male model (she works for a TV shopping channel) that she had a “crush” on for months. He never talked to her until then, when we had been dating a few weeks. He asked her out, and she said to me: “I didn’t know what to say to him.” She wanted to be exclusive with me, and I agreed. She even asked later that night, “What if the male model asks me out again?” I said, “Tell him you have a bf.” She was so happy when I said that.

Apparently, 2 days later, he asked her out again, this time to coffee after work. She told him No, but she did not tell him she had a bf. She just said No. I know all this because she casually mentioned it in conversation to me. She even added, “I told him No, but felt so bad.” She then realized she had slipped up, and said something about how she really cares for me and wouldn’t date anyone else.

This bothered me, so the next time we were together in person, I told her it bothered me and told her why it bothered me. I gave her the option of going back to “just dating,” and letting her date the male model or anyone else she wanted to to get it out of her system. No questions asked. We could still date casually, and see where it goes. She refused, and affirmed she wanted to be exclusive with me.

This male model (whose name she has never told me, even though she calls all other friends and coworkers by their name when talking about them) apparently asked her out a third time a few days later. This is like 2 weeks ago. This time, she told him she had a bf. He didn’t give up, and asked, “Ok, but are you happy with him?” She said yes. He also mentioned to her he was going to be in a parade on a float that we have locally in this area.

My gf and I go to the parade last weekend. At one point, she asked me to stand in front of me so she could try to see her “friend from work” who was on a float in the parade. She never did find him at the parade. I thought about asking her if her "friend" was the male model, but didn't want to look jealous.

That was a mistake, as it has been bothering me.

This guy is not her friend; he wants to sleep with her. And she had a "crush" on him for months. She even once said it was too bad he didn't ask her out a couple of months ago before we met.

I am concerned that they talk every day at work, and she is getting to know him more and more and one day will dump me for him. They are not co-workers per se. SHe works in a control room, and he is an on-air model. Since it is live TV, they all get two, 2-hour breaks during the day to stay fresh so they don't screw up. It is during these long breaks he approaches her, she puts her novel down, and they talk. For how long, I do not know.

I was almost starting to really trust her, and obviously my concern over the male model is making me not trust her and have doubts.

I want to ask her about it all, and I fear I am correct that they talk at work a lot and are "just friends." But I feel like it is emotional cheating, especially because she did not tell him she had a bf right away even after we decided to be exclusive, and the fact she admittedly is attracted to him and is getting to know him better and talking to him.

I know I can't control who her friends are, but this guy never spoke a word to her until after we were dating, and now they are "friends." And he didn't back off once she turned him down a few times for dates.

Advice please. I do not want to appear jealous, but cannot get this off my mind because it is holding me back from forming a healthy relationship with her.
 

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Typical sh!t test from this ho......

She already has complete control of you and your nutsack... And you know what happens when she has the control...

You better turn the tables quick and get some back up chicks and let her know that you will replace her at the drop of a hat and that you could not give a fvck if you're with her or not...

You're headed for a crash and burn my friend...

Rich
 

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Never, EVER, eva eva eva eva eva, engage in conversation with her about this guy again........Read this carefully....

1) Why in the FUKKING H3LL did you go to that parade? You should have busted her on it and said "**** NO".

2) If she wants to cheat on you, she will. NOTHING you can say will ever change that.

3) Get your game back, stop wasting time thinking about this, become a challenge again, get some more options (girls). Become the guy you were when you first met.

4) 6 weeks = too soon to be exclusive. You should have avoided this conversation at all costs. But it's over and done with, so that doesn't matter now.

On one hand, you have a confident model, on the other hand, she's got a needy AFC that she cares about. You better right the ship NOW or you're done. I give you 50-50 shot....

Prove me wrong, keep us posted...
 

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P.S. In the end, if you stay exclusive with her, you WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE FACT THAT SHE WORKS WITH THIS GUY AND HE WILL, I REPEAT, WILL, HIT ON HER AGAIN, ESP. IF SHE'S BEING INVITING TO HIS ADVANCES. You have to decide if you're trusting enough to live with this. If not, find another girl who's not in that position.

My gf is a hair stylist, and gets hit on constantly by guys. You have to get over that jealousy.
 

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Right on KingRich.

A long time ago I was seeing a woman who acted nearly exactly as you are describing. We had been mutual for a while, and things were great. Then, she started a new job. She eventually started talking about this guy she worked with. She did a poor job covering her desire for him, just as your woman is doing to you. Eventually, I stopped by her place to surprise her. I had the key and let myself in. She wasn't there, but when she returned had this guy from work with her. They were giggling and all over each other. It got "exciting" after that.

Let me stand in front of you so I can see a friend from work?

How about this tihash:

Let me stand in front of you so if the guy from work sees me he won't be able to tell I have a boyfriend.

It's red flag city. Given her "newly thin" situation, the guy from work situation, and her playing games situation, It's walk away time. This chick wants to exploit her new found hotness, not be tied down.

She's going to lust after this guy until she gets him no matter what the consequences are. Her head is full of "what if's" at this point and she's going to cheat just to see what this dude's like and you are virtually helpless to control it. She's got her mind made up and is telling you all about it-it's called "foreshadowing". Women make little blunders all the time that predict the future. Why would she dump you to try out the other guy when she can test him out and still have you?

You're the prize tihash, and you shouldn't stand for this sort of disrespect. Get out while you have your dignity. She's either intentionally cultivating jealousy in you or she forgets you are her man and not one of her girlfriends. It sounds like she talks about the guy accidentally with you and tries to cover it up. This sort of outright lusting after someone else is UNACCEPTABLE! She's contemplating it right to you - that's SICK! I swear, the next time she brings this dude up, tell her how sick of hearing about this guy you are off to find someone who wants to be with you instead of someone they work with. Then, walk out the door forever.

I could say that I got burned before, and I'm a bit sensitive to this situation. But, it's more like "Fool me once, shame on you. You aren't fooling me again."

So, this is just what I'd do. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
 

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UPDATE

THanks for all the advice, guys.

Unfortunately, I acted before reading your posts. Here is what went down:

I talked to her about it at lunch over the phone. I started by asking if the "friend" in the parade was the model guy. It was.

I told her I didn't want to tarnish our dinner plans tonight, and wanted to share a concern I had with her on the phone right now. I framed it in a way that I did not come across as jealous, needy, or insecure. I calmly explained I trust her, and I know she gets hit on a lot, and that does not bother me.

What does concern me is when people like the male model keep making moves on her and she maintains a "friendship" with him. I told her i have seen things happen. I told her I have been "the other guy" a girl cheats on her bf with, and the other guy a girl dumps her bf for.

I told her i would never cheat on her or anyone because I keep my word and part of how i can ensure i wont is i wont put myself in a compromising situation. i told her she can have all the guy friends she wants. but when a guy friend asks her out, or makes a move on her, or anything like that, he ceases being her friend at that point. He is no longer her friend because he revealed he wants to f**k her.

i told her she is somewhat gullible with men (she agreed) and doesnt even see it that way, but to take my word for it... If the guy wants to sleep with you, he is not truly interested in being your friend.

She said something like yeah guys may hit on her, but they are still her friends... they know she would never do anything with them. dont worry... i wont cheat on you, not ever. Blah blah blah.

She refused or could not comprehend how this is a concern to me.

I told her I had to go and i would see her tonight.

I am seriously considering dumping her. I need her at my house so she can get the shyt she left over there so I never have to see her a$$ again.

I would never tell someone what they can and cannot do, or who they can or cannot be friends with. The DJ, I believe, let's people be who they are and HE chooses whether or not their behaviour is acceptable.

However, I was hoping she would volunteer to not actively be friends with people like the model who continuously keep asking her out, and say things like “Well, if things go south with your boyfriend, I’m always here.” She revealed today he said that to her.

That bothers me. That can't happen.

Some of you suggested neve rmentioning this again. Do I just ignore it?

I guess this is oneities, but she IS my girlfriend, albeit a new one.

One female friend of mine recommended downgrading her to "just dating" and no longer be exclusive. If she is ready to respect me as a boyfriend, she can re-apply for exclusivity.

What says the group?
 

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GET RID OF HER!!!!


this isnt worth your time.


TRUST ME...by 6 weeks..this women should be falling in love with you.

and if she isnt..she isnt worth your time.

this women should of forgotten about this crush after date 2 or 3 with you.

this is not a knock on you....this is how it works.....

she just isnt worth your time Tihash.

and dont worry about looking jealous or what not..fyck that.

its disrespectful that this HOE went to a parade with YOU and looked for this guy with you there.

thats just BULLSHYT.

if she wants her CAKE=(YOU) she cant have her (PIE)-attracting other guys..too.


you will be better off without her.
 

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Tihash, yes, you have one itis or this wouldn't matter to you. Look man, I know your situation. It sucks, I know. But please, PLEASE, understand this simple principle...

If she wants to be your boyfriend, then she better act like it.

If she doesn't, then she isn't your girlfriend.

Tihash, I genuinely want to help you because I've been in your shoes and I know how bad it sucks. YOU CAN NOT LIVE HER LIFE FOR HER.

BE A MAN. WALK AWAY. STOP WITH YOUR ONE ITIS. DON'T CALL HER AT WORK ANY MORE. EACH TIME YOU TALK ABOUT THIS SUBJECT WITH HER, HER INTEREST DWINDLES MORE.

Now, as hard as this is to comprehend, go try to meet more girls. You have one itis because you don't have the confidence to meet other girls. She knows she has you by the balls. Show her she doesn't. Cancel the date tonight. Stand up for yourself, man. There's nothing to talk about. This isn't "the game". It's reality, it's how the chick mind works. I don't know any way to make it clearer. Get my drift?

PM me if you get a chance...
 

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You've got the idea, but you are trying to rationalize some AFC behavior.

If you downgrade the relationship, she gets the greenlight to screw this guy and still see you. It is reward for her intollerable behavior.

If you stay with her, it's a mine field and there is no guarantee anything will last - probably more hassle than it's worth seeing as how she will continually torment you with accounts of how every guy she knows tries to bang her, among other things. Hey, at least she's "honest?"

If you leave, she gets punished for her inappropriate behavior and you get to find someone who is a bit more discreet and will treat you better.

I get hit on plenty, but, I don't go blabbing it to women I'm with. It just breeds jealousy, contempt and negativity. There is no call for it, it's not interesting, it is merely a drama queen attention wh0ring.

Oh boo hoo! :cry: This guy keeps hitting on me! What are you going to do for me? How much do you like me? Aren't you listening to me? I said a guy keeps trying to get me to have sex with him! I'll stay with you if you beg me! Oh, I only want you. Hey, let's go see if we can see this guy! Oh, we're just friends. He hit on me again! Please stroke my ego! I just lied to you, you're still here?
Hey, maybe you should fight this guy for me!

Take a few days to let the dust settle, drop it. Meanwhile pay attention to the various other red flags, get some other prospects, and, when you finally convince yourself that she's not for you - give 'er da boot!
 

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Re: UPDATE

Originally posted by tihash
THanks for all the advice, guys.

Unfortunately, I acted before reading your posts. Here is what went down:

I talked to her about it at lunch over the phone. I started by asking if the "friend" in the parade was the model guy. It was.

I told her I didn't want to tarnish our dinner plans tonight, and wanted to share a concern I had with her on the phone right now. I framed it in a way that I did not come across as jealous, needy, or insecure. I calmly explained I trust her, and I know she gets hit on a lot, and that does not bother me.

What does concern me is when people like the male model keep making moves on her and she maintains a "friendship" with him. I told her i have seen things happen. I told her I have been "the other guy" a girl cheats on her bf with, and the other guy a girl dumps her bf for.

I told her i would never cheat on her or anyone because I keep my word and part of how i can ensure i wont is i wont put myself in a compromising situation. i told her she can have all the guy friends she wants. but when a guy friend asks her out, or makes a move on her, or anything like that, he ceases being her friend at that point. He is no longer her friend because he revealed he wants to f**k her.

i told her she is somewhat gullible with men (she agreed) and doesnt even see it that way, but to take my word for it... If the guy wants to sleep with you, he is not truly interested in being your friend.

She said something like yeah guys may hit on her, but they are still her friends... they know she would never do anything with them. dont worry... i wont cheat on you, not ever. Blah blah blah.

She refused or could not comprehend how this is a concern to me.

I told her I had to go and i would see her tonight.

I am seriously considering dumping her. I need her at my house so she can get the shyt she left over there so I never have to see her a$$ again.

I would never tell someone what they can and cannot do, or who they can or cannot be friends with. The DJ, I believe, let's people be who they are and HE chooses whether or not their behaviour is acceptable.

However, I was hoping she would volunteer to not actively be friends with people like the model who continuously keep asking her out, and say things like “Well, if things go south with your boyfriend, I’m always here.” She revealed today he said that to her.

That bothers me. That can't happen.

Some of you suggested neve rmentioning this again. Do I just ignore it?

I guess this is oneities, but she IS my girlfriend, albeit a new one.

One female friend of mine recommended downgrading her to "just dating" and no longer be exclusive. If she is ready to respect me as a boyfriend, she can re-apply for exclusivity.

What says the group?
6 weeks and you're dealing with bullshyt like this? :nono:

What do you think the future holds for you with this? Do you really think this will be any better next month? First mistake was being exclusive with a sketchy woman....Second, was giving her your nuts so early....

Why are you getting involved with this drama? Pick up the phone, cancel tonight and let it be known that you will not tolerate these sh!t tests any longer and if she wants to be YOUR woman, she better wise up and get her act together....

You don't have time for this....Your relationship should not be giving you problems after 6 weeks buddy. She is really getting a kick out of your jealous reactions to this dude who wouldn't even be in the picture if you grabbed your nuts when this shyt surfaced in the first place.

Better spin more plates soon.....REAL SOON.

Rich

P.S: It's BS like this that some dudes will let women get away with that empowers them to think they can do this to any dude.
:cuss:

I hope others here can learn from this and cut this sh!t before it gets out of hand like the OP did.
 

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I'm sitting here chuckling at all the people basically screaming:

You are not a doormat! DUMP HER! SHE'S A TRAMP!

Is it unanimous yet? I want someone to get on here and say "keep her" just to see if there is any sort of reasoning to support going that route.
 

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Is it unanimous yet? I want someone to get on here and say "keep her" just to see if there is any sort of reasoning to support going that route.
the only way that is supported.

is if he can emoitonally de attach himself and just use her for sex :)
 

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Originally posted by tihash
How should this have been handled?


It should have been handled right here:

After about 2 or 3 weeks of dating, she had a big talk with me about whether we were exclusive. She explained there is a guy she works with who is a male model (she works for a TV shopping channel) that she had a “crush” on for months. He never talked to her until then, when we had been dating a few weeks. He asked her out, and she said to me: “I didn’t know what to say to him.” She wanted to be exclusive with me, and I agreed. She even asked later that night, “What if the male model asks me out again?” I said, “Tell him you have a bf.” She was so happy when I said that.

You gave her a reaction. This is a green light for her to continue her fvcked up drama. "I didn't know what to say to him?" Why is she telling you this ? ANSWER: To get the initial stage of control and to determine your interest level.

Then you let this whole saga drag on for another 4 weeks and she's getting a rise out of this entire episode. This is getting worse by the day dude....
:crazy:


I told her I didn't want to tarnish our dinner plans tonight, and wanted to share a concern I had with her on the phone right now. I framed it in a way that I did not come across as jealous, needy, or insecure. I calmly explained I trust her, and I know she gets hit on a lot, and that does not bother me.
Once again, you're taking valuable time out of your day to go over this for the 10th time ...way to put your foot down..:cheer:
You do realize all this is doing is saying: "This is the go ahead for you to see how much I need your pu$$y. I'm looking forward to more drama tonight."


I told her i would never cheat on her or anyone because I keep my word and part of how i can ensure i wont is i wont put myself in a compromising situation. i told her she can have all the guy friends she wants. but when a guy friend asks her out, or makes a move on her, or anything like that, he ceases being her friend at that point. He is no longer her friend because he revealed he wants to f**k her.
I told her I would never cheat on her? It's always a good thing to let her know that you only have eyes for her....:rockon:

I'll stop here ....for now...

You get my drift? Cut this sh!t out....Your terms or no terms.

Rich
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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When she told you the male model asked her out today, your reply should have been,"Excellent, I ate a taco." (quote by the almighty tit-guy).

When she asked you what should she say if he asked her out again, your reply should have been, "I don't care."

And then you should have fukked her and nutted on her face.
 

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Ok, I decided what I am going to do for tonight.

Dinner is off.

She will find this out when she arrives.

I am going to fukk her, then announce I am tired and/or have a headache after I finish, and then have her leave.

If she brings up the other guy or feelings or any shyt, I am going to tell her I don't want to talk about it anymore tonight. If she persists, I will say, "I told you I don't want to talk about it right now. Either respect me, or leave."

Why dump her without fukking her first?

Why ruin MY Valentine's Day, and deny myself sex?

If she truly cares, she will respond favorably to my return to confidence. This is how I was when I met her... this is how I need to be now.

If she is taken aback by it, tought shyt.

Also, tomorrow night is dollar drink night at a local bar that is always packed with hotties.

I need to make some new "friends." If she can have "friends," so can I.

These are the rules.

She will play by my rules, or she can leave.
 

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Ok, I decided what I am going to do for tonight.

Dinner is off.

She will find this out when she arrives.

I am going to fukk her, then announce I am tired and/or have a headache after I finish, and then have her leave.

If she brings up the other guy or feelings or any shyt, I am going to tell her I don't want to talk about it anymore tonight. If she persists, I will say, "I told you I don't want to talk about it right now. Either respect me, or leave."

Why dump her without fukking her first?

Why ruin MY Valentine's Day, and deny myself sex?

If she truly cares, she will respond favorably to my return to confidence. This is how I was when I met her... this is how I need to be now.

If she is taken aback by it, tought shyt.

Also, tomorrow night is dollar drink night at a local bar that is always packed with hotties.

I need to make some new "friends." If she can have "friends," so can I.

These are the rules.

She will play by my rules, or she can leave.

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:cheer: :cheer:

update us tomorrow!!!
 

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You the man, your balls just jumped out of her hands and back in your scrotum...and yes let us know how it went...
 

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tihash,

It looks like you may have learned something today. That is our V-day present to you.

Now take back the control and drop the hammer as you indicated you would on the last post...She'll be all over your balls like their going out of style...promise....

Now don't slip up again :up:

Rich
 

Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.

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