Hi Guys
Kind of friendzoned myself with this chick and seek any advice on possible ways to get out. My disclaimer before I get cyber bashed: Am still spinning other plates, this is not one-it-is before I get accused, but rather just a very high quality chick which i want to try and salvage even if the chances of success are low. I accept she is one of many out there and am also aware that friendzones are often lost causes.
With that being said
1) - A girl contacts me on dating site. She was uber hot, but told me she has very high standards and only contacts very few guys to meet. She also told me she was going to be very picky on who she ends up with.
2) We met for coffee, she eye balled me and smiled for a bit when we met and I could feel that she liked what she saw of me physically, but once we started talking things went down hill fast. She was totally hot, but I was having trouble with the connection. She was so super loud and talked so much at the top of her voice, I was struggling to get a word in - and my usual routine of pushing my own personal inner style (writer, musician) which works for my usual type of girls was lost on her. She was a mega powered corporate girl who earns a lot of money and likes the rich beautiful lifestyle.
3) So Coffee date went on far too long, I couldn't shorten it because she talked so much! The whole time I was conscious of trying to escalate but just couldn't seem to pull it off. I was thrown off my usual game because she was a different type of girl. Was conscious that a skilled Don Juan wouldn't just be talking for ever in a cafe like some loser and would take things to next level. Conscious of it, but things just weren't going to plan despite my attempts. Finally she looked bored and decided to end it when she was all talked out. She said "you should call me" but it didn't sound convincing and she wouldn't make eye contact.
4) I assessed the damage the next day and figured the chances were low but may try and give it another go. I tried to be all casual as if I didn't care either way AND STUPIDLY took a line from David De Angelo - YES STUPID. Herein is an example of why you should never steal lines - I texted saying - "hey I hoped we would have connected more than we did yesterday, but there is something about you I find interesting, lets meet again and give it another go, if nothing else we would make awesome friends". This is the direct quote which I remember from one of the guru's programs. Needless to say, I got a message back straight away saying, "hey glad you feel the same way, I was worried it was just me- yes mates it is!".
5) So the plan backfires and now we are "mates". I licked my wound and thought I would just forget about her and started contacting other girls, but she started texting every day or two with funny lines. I realised she was cool and we hang out a bit and have fun, but once again me thinks that hanging out with girls and texting is completely AFC, a good Don Juan doesn't do this stuff. So I have started playing a few games with her - I tell her about chicks whom are hitting on me (fake of course), I play games like finding the most awkward and old looking guy sitting in a bar and telling her to ask him out etc. I can tell she likes my jokes and we have a lot of fun, get drunk a lot etc. BUT NOW I AM CONSCIOUS if I waste one second further of these childish hanging out with her games then I am a confirmed AFC - no Don Juan would be doing this. So if a real Don Juan could then bring this one back and turn her into a possible score- what does he do? What steps does he adopt to take this to a new level.
I accept a lot of responses will be "give up you nob", but any positive strategies or advice would be so appreciated - plus you'll feel good by imparting your wisdom on an rookie rather than just bashing him
Kind of friendzoned myself with this chick and seek any advice on possible ways to get out. My disclaimer before I get cyber bashed: Am still spinning other plates, this is not one-it-is before I get accused, but rather just a very high quality chick which i want to try and salvage even if the chances of success are low. I accept she is one of many out there and am also aware that friendzones are often lost causes.
With that being said
1) - A girl contacts me on dating site. She was uber hot, but told me she has very high standards and only contacts very few guys to meet. She also told me she was going to be very picky on who she ends up with.
2) We met for coffee, she eye balled me and smiled for a bit when we met and I could feel that she liked what she saw of me physically, but once we started talking things went down hill fast. She was totally hot, but I was having trouble with the connection. She was so super loud and talked so much at the top of her voice, I was struggling to get a word in - and my usual routine of pushing my own personal inner style (writer, musician) which works for my usual type of girls was lost on her. She was a mega powered corporate girl who earns a lot of money and likes the rich beautiful lifestyle.
3) So Coffee date went on far too long, I couldn't shorten it because she talked so much! The whole time I was conscious of trying to escalate but just couldn't seem to pull it off. I was thrown off my usual game because she was a different type of girl. Was conscious that a skilled Don Juan wouldn't just be talking for ever in a cafe like some loser and would take things to next level. Conscious of it, but things just weren't going to plan despite my attempts. Finally she looked bored and decided to end it when she was all talked out. She said "you should call me" but it didn't sound convincing and she wouldn't make eye contact.
4) I assessed the damage the next day and figured the chances were low but may try and give it another go. I tried to be all casual as if I didn't care either way AND STUPIDLY took a line from David De Angelo - YES STUPID. Herein is an example of why you should never steal lines - I texted saying - "hey I hoped we would have connected more than we did yesterday, but there is something about you I find interesting, lets meet again and give it another go, if nothing else we would make awesome friends". This is the direct quote which I remember from one of the guru's programs. Needless to say, I got a message back straight away saying, "hey glad you feel the same way, I was worried it was just me- yes mates it is!".
5) So the plan backfires and now we are "mates". I licked my wound and thought I would just forget about her and started contacting other girls, but she started texting every day or two with funny lines. I realised she was cool and we hang out a bit and have fun, but once again me thinks that hanging out with girls and texting is completely AFC, a good Don Juan doesn't do this stuff. So I have started playing a few games with her - I tell her about chicks whom are hitting on me (fake of course), I play games like finding the most awkward and old looking guy sitting in a bar and telling her to ask him out etc. I can tell she likes my jokes and we have a lot of fun, get drunk a lot etc. BUT NOW I AM CONSCIOUS if I waste one second further of these childish hanging out with her games then I am a confirmed AFC - no Don Juan would be doing this. So if a real Don Juan could then bring this one back and turn her into a possible score- what does he do? What steps does he adopt to take this to a new level.
I accept a lot of responses will be "give up you nob", but any positive strategies or advice would be so appreciated - plus you'll feel good by imparting your wisdom on an rookie rather than just bashing him
