can i get a little advice regarding this girl

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First of all let me say i know what game is, i know the push and pull methods, what to do what not to do, and honestly i believe a lot of these stuff should be natural (not being clingy,confidence,dont be annoying, project value ...etc) so when it comes to attraction and game i have a decent amount of knowledge .

So this girl i known for 6 months, skinyy around a 7/10 for months she would show intense interest, stares, eye contact and subtle flirting, everyone told she likes me, i made a move through instagram and we had 2-3 lengthy convos , it was around christmas so wasnt expecting a date or anything i had my own stuff to do ... she seemed very interested but a week or so later started acting weird, blocking nad unblocking me randomly on fb, i had a family emergency so didnt care and moved on, a month later she says hi to me on campus and sends me a message, we agree to meet, she still avoids me and acts weird, i didnt care really .... a couple weeks after that i saw her with a guy at this club/bar at midnight, she saw me and pretnded she didnt .

a while later she ran into me on campus or more accurately came to me and invited me to sit with her, i was bored so we did for a couple hours, at this poin i wasnt expecting much and thought i had lost and the better man won .

from that day on she would sometimes message me and met her few times after that , but she was still acting hot and cold,and that irritated me, i sent her a message saying " look we've only met twice so far, are you really cool with just that ?" to which she replied " no iam not we should meet more" ... that resulted in a date , she drove 30 mins to meet me and we spent about 3 hours together, she shared a lot of stuff with me and there was some touching but no kissing or anything .

she again started acting weird after the date, hot and cold but still wanted to see me , she would send me a message but not respond back when i do , it happend 3 times then i had enough of it and sent her a message telling her " look i cant bring myself to talk to someone who avoids talking time, iam neve bringing this up again " .... she apologized few times and said she never meant to do that . i didnt buy it .

she changed her profile pic to her and her bf or even more than bf who knows, the picture was taken a couple days after our date .


i have few theories, she wants an orbiter, or a back up plan . or she wants the guy shes with yet finds me more attractive .... at first i thought she was a good girl but now that changed i dont want anything serious and iam not willing to invest in her ( never did to begin with ) .

we never kissed or had sex, never invested in her, during the past few months i did meet other girls .

 

[ohrein]

Women who are interested in you make it easy. Games early on are a sign of low interest. Why waste your valuable time chasing a poor investment when you can meet new women who require almost no work and actually want to spend time with you?

But if you guys insist on chasing these low interest types, flip the script. Never chat to women for too long if you aren't sleeping with them and you want to be. Make them work for your time. You ask them out and they either accept and they are granted some of your time face to face or you stop investing time in them. All this inconsequential talk where she's apologizing and you're trying to set frame after you've failed to kiss her is not going to work. She follows your frame or you do not give her your attention.

 

[TheProspect]

You proclaimed you know game right off the bat and then write 5 subsequent paragraphs indicating that you don’t.

You waited too long and failed to make a move. You signed up to be an orbiter when you engaged in “Lengthly convos” and hung out with her for 3 hours without escalating, before completely turning her off by telling her “I can’t bring myself to talk to someone who avoids talking to me.”

You overanalyzed a woman you never kissed every step of the way and now she has your hamster spinning. I think she knows game better than you lol.

Cut your losses my man, don’t give this girl any more thought, and remember to be bold and escalate in the future... if a girl is interested in you, you generally have a limited time frame to make a move before someone else who catches her attention will.

Action > Analysis

 

[Igetit!]

You proclaimed you know game right off the bat and then write 5 subsequent paragraphs indicating that you don’t.

You waited too long and failed to make a move. You signed up to be an orbiter when you engaged in “Lengthly convos” and hung out with her for 3 hours without escalating, before completely turning her off by telling her “I can’t bring myself to talk to someone who avoids talking to me.”

You overanalyzed a woman you never kissed every step of the way and now she has your hamster spinning. I think she knows game better than you lol.

Cut your losses my man, don’t give this girl any more thought, and remember to be bold and escalate in the future... if a girl is interested in you, you generally have a limited time frame to make a move before someone else catches her attention who will.

Action > Analysis

Read this post OVER AND OVER again until you "get it"......ESPECIALLY that second sentence.

 

[lizardking82]

You waited months to "make a move" and that "move" is 3 lengthy conversations on Instagram? Man, you are so back in understanding another person's level of interest and acting accordingly anything we tell you here is pretty much worth nothing.

You waited too long to make a move and that's not even a move, that's more of a poke. Then when she started playing games, your interest level got up. Then you sit with her for a "couple of hours" and realize the best men won? Why would you spend a couple of hours from your supposedly valuable time with a chick that is seemingly not that mature and interesting AND doesn't wanna bang you? And you never did invest anything in her? How about the hours you spent with her? Or you don't value your time?

This girl is confused and neither you or her boyfriend are men enough to set her straight. You are both too weak to lead situations and you let her lead which has confused her a whole damn lot and that is noticeable in her mixed up actions.

Straighten up with yourself. Look inwards and understand that you not only do not know game and push and pull, you suck at it. It is OK to suck at something, it is not OK to come here and try and bullsh1t guys who get it and do it on a daily bases, ***** management, time management, situation management. You don't know game and you won't until you start wanting to learn it.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Stopped reading at 'for months.'

Take **** out and tell her what to do. At the very least, you got a good story to tell. Likely, you pull since said girl hasn't seen a real man in her entire life.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Action > Analysis

+1

The best way to weed out a attention ***** is to take your **** out.

Hows that for ambiguity?

This forum would be better off low testosterone men stopped posting about their feelers.

 

[Slide]

No good advice here i was wrong to ask , all i got was you shouldve slept with her ... you dont know anyones personal issues so dont claim to know mine i struggle to even pay my tuition iam not a rixh dude like most of you hitting the club daily and in fact i couls care less about sex i wablnted a good gf and she wasnt good gf materal as simple as that ... there is no such thing as too long or too short i have ignored girls for months and they came back to me , my friends talked to girls for over a year and ended up banging them, timing means nothing and the sooner you understand that the better .... youre good at banging drunk chicks within few hours but you seem to fail when it comes to building a connection and making a woman want you ... iam no expert but i have done it enough times in the past ...

This girl is merley an expirement , if it works it worka if not then cool i've learned something , be a little more open minded its not cool to always give the same advice without actually knowing what youre saying

 

[Slide]

You waited months to "make a move" and that "move" is 3 lengthy conversations on Instagram? Man, you are so back in understanding another person's level of interest and acting accordingly anything we tell you here is pretty much worth nothing.

You waited too long to make a move and that's not even a move, that's more of a poke. Then when she started playing games, your interest level got up. Then you sit with her for a "couple of hours" and realize the best men won? Why would you spend a couple of hours from your supposedly valuable time with a chick that is seemingly not that mature and interesting AND doesn't wanna bang you? And you never did invest anything in her? How about the hours you spent with her? Or you don't value your time?

This girl is confused and neither you or her boyfriend are men enough to set her straight. You are both too weak to lead situations and you let her lead which has confused her a whole damn lot and that is noticeable in her mixed up actions.

Straighten up with yourself. Look inwards and understand that you not only do not know game and push and pull, you suck at it. It is OK to suck at something, it is not OK to come here and try and bullsh1t guys who get it and do it on a daily bases, ***** management, time management, situation management. You don't know game and you won't until you start wanting to learn it.

Iam not her bf nor trying to be , how much of a man i am to her is irrelevant
Dont act like you know me cause you dont i tell women to fvk off when i have to and i have done it , game is for guys like you i know game but i donf use it, i fact i dont have to and girls come to me on their own

 

[TheProspect]

No good advice here i was wrong to ask , all i got was you shouldve slept with her ... you dont know anyones personal issues so dont claim to know mine i struggle to even pay my tuition iam not a rixh dude like most of you hitting the club daily and in fact i couls care less about sex i wablnted a good gf and she wasnt good gf materal as simple as that ... there is no such thing as too long or too short i have ignored girls for months and they came back to me , my friends talked to girls for over a year and ended up banging them, timing means nothing and the sooner you understand that the better .... youre good at banging drunk chicks within few hours but you seem to fail when it comes to building a connection and making a woman want you ... iam no expert but i have done it enough times in the past ...

This girl is merley an expirement , if it works it worka if not then cool i've learned something , be a little more open minded its not cool to always give the same advice without actually knowing what youre saying

Look, you came here for advice because YOUR way of doing things isn't working.

be a little more open minded its not cool to always give the same advice without actually knowing what youre saying

You are definitely the one that needs to be a little more open-minded.

game is for guys like you i know game but i donf use it

Game is relevant for both ONS's and LTR's. Pretending you don't need it is like being on a boat without a motor in the ocean, sure you may get to where you want occasionally because of the environment and sheer luck, but you will never get there quicker and more often then if you had a motor to propel you. Game is not required to get laid or attract quality women, but it increases your chances tenfold once the door is open. Other than that, you're just waiting for external circumstances to align perfectly to get laid or attract a quality GF, rather than creating your own "luck". There's a difference between blind luck and luck that is created when preparation meets opportunity.

i fact i dont have to and girls come to me on their own

Any girl that comes to you "on her own" isn't worth a relationship, in my opinion. There's an analogy that states no one wants a bird that willingly flies into a cage to be captured, as there is probably something wrong with it. Any woman worth her salt will not give your anything other than a few IOI's, which signals your opportunity to approach and lead. Woman are attracted to a man who knows what he wants and can lead boldly.

If you want a relationship with someone actually worth a relationship, quit acting like a stubborn teenager with all your "YOU DON'T KNOW MY LIFE" whining, it's the childish attitude of an underachiever who places blames on everything else besides himself, and no woman is attracted to a man-child.