Can anyone tell me where my game is breaking down and why?

[seeVip]

Great advice said above. What i generally thought of when i read your thread is that you might not have enough challenge. You are giving too much. I usually call a girl a week or more after i get her number and ask her out on a weekday date, onc ei went almost two weeks, it tends to weed out girls with low interest level, because if the girl has high interest level her interest level will raise the longer she waits for you.

The second reason i could think of is that it was more like a ONS, and with ONS you have to play by the rules, you often use the number for booty calls thats it. Imagine a ONS you wouldent call her up and expect a relationship, or anything like a date would make HER think that u want a LRT or whatever. Now that would be braking the ONS rules.

 

[squirrels]

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
I'm talking about stuff other than TAB A fitting into SLOT B !!!!

A lot of good advice on this thread...but honestly, I don't see myself as having much in common with women in GENERAL. I'm into typically "guy" stuff. Football, cars, lifting weights, computers/video games, stuff like that. I have no interest in woman-stuff...fluffy kittens, fashion, this stuff does not interest me. Every f..king girl out there is some nutbag who wants to be a nurse and save the homeless, as long as she can get drunk on the weekends with her friends. I'm not sure if "common interest" between me and any normal female is findable...besides sex, of course.

In fact, if they didn't have what I'm looking for physically, I probably wouldn't associate with them at all. They bore me to death.

Maybe that's why I'm so impatient...that's why I hate calling women, that's why I tend to rush things. Because I really can't stand wasting time around women longer than it takes to get what I'm after. Without sex or the promise of sex, it's a downright CHORE to spend my precious time with them.

Am I just meeting the wrong girls? It seems like they're ALL like this. At least the attractive ones, because they're so used to getting their way because of looks that they never bothered to develop a personality.

*shrug*

 

[seeVip]

TRUST ME THERE ARE WOMEN who like what u like, maybe you should pickup at the gym. And im not talking about bad women, they are generally great.

But i sense a problem with your listning skills, you aint gonna go nowhere if you dont listen. You dont knwo about women stuff because you dont listen. I dont wear mascara use makeup or any sort of women clothes, but i often know about women clothes, problems with this and that on a level enough to relate to them. and that just brings your game up another level.

At the moment women might be using you just for your body.
Women are straightforward in somethings, if they want ur body, they wont accept any kind of date. Simple. Bootycall more likely.

 

[squirrels]

I WISH they would use me for my body...that's all I'm asking, in fact.

We'll see...it seems like whenever I try to talk to these women, they sort of flake out right there in conversation:

"What is it that you like about xxx?"
"I dunno, I just do."
"What do you do for fun?"
"I dunno, hang out, stuff..."

I'll have to try being more "C&F"...LOL

 

[seeVip]

Yeah dude if you want to be used for your body. Atleast be a SEXUAL being, be like those PUA's, straight to the point, but you show it through your actions, and timing, you dont ask straight out questions liek that no wonder girls get all defensive, and confused.

If you want really good sex you gotta tease brother. After a while of plain sex it gets BORING BORING BORING, i can go sometimes for 6 months, just to wait for good sex, I mean with context, the type of schdit you melt when you go for th efirst kiss. its the best. But say ur fine on your side, but you want the girl to go crazy you gotta tease her with C/F , you gotta tease her with challenge bro.

THink about it man, it will workout much better, this way when u get pucvcy it will be steaming hot. ( you know what im taling about when its not just warm in there but its dripping wet and sauna HOT) thats the shieiiiiiiiiiiiiet.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

Originally posted by squirrels
"What is it that you like about xxx?"
"I dunno, I just do."
"What do you do for fun?"
"I dunno, hang out, stuff..."

I'll have to try being more "C&F"...LOL

Thats the thing, so many girls are so.. boring, they dont seem to have any interests besides going out with their mates and getting pissed..

Nevertheless you do occasionally meet girls that play sport or have some sort of hobby..

plus.. you can usually rely on TV, movies and music as things that most girls are interested in.. they're bound to have a fav band, TV show and movie, if you like them at all.. then thats a connection to be made..

I've also found with a lot of chicks travel is an interest, they often want to go somewhere, see some place or something and are usually really interested when I tell them about places I've been..

sounds like the chicks you've been talking to are either really boring or only interested in making out/sex that night... hence why a date is falling through.

try finding out where all the college girls and young professionals go out in your area, you stand a better chance of meeting a more interesting woman.. or if youre mainly interested in the ONS make more of an effort to get it on the night (dont ask me how though)

 

[Bonhomme]

TOO Good?

Another theory I have is that you're too good a working up a vibe with gals who would never hook up with you otherwise.

In other words, their hormones are screaming "I want you," but their minds are saying "Run away -- far away!"

I'm getting this a lot with much younger gals. The solutions are contradictory:

One is to strike while the iron is hot. Call her back once the next day. Set a date quickly. Sweep her off her feet and give her some lovin' that will make her head spin. In fact, most of my first dates within the last 2 years or so have ended up in bed.

The thing is to make it more a thing of confidently going after what you want than desperately trying to hook up.

The other is to lay back if they get cold feet and choke. Last weekend I ran into a young cutie who remembered me from some house party last year. I called the next day, then my caller ID showed she called about 4 times the following day, and finally got a hold of me the day after. But she totally choked during our convo, and couldn't say a thing. I wasn't in great form, either. So I basically wrote her off, and backed way off.

Then today she called twice: one caller ID -- no message, then got a hold of me a few hours later. This time the convo went better, and I quickly set a date to check out a music and arts festival with her.

I hope this gives you a sense of some of the dynamics that go on when your macking skills improve. It's an art, as much as a science.

 

[Doppler4000]

You need to change your thinking. I bet that your goal with these women is to get their number. To be more successful, your goal needs to be to establish rapport and develop attraction. Getting the number's just a side note in this. I could go out and get numbers from chicks everywhere by just basic chatting and asking for it. Most of them will never go out on a date. When you focus on building attraction (which can be done with things like teasing, but doesn't have to) you'll eventually see the difference when it happens and you'll walk away with a number that you KNOW is gonna lead to a date.

Also, if you're sitting there with some chick thinking about how you have nothing in common with them, why would you want to date them anyways? OK, maybe your only answer is to try and get some action because they're hot. That's fine, but in most cases they're not gonna be thinking the same thing in return- they're just thinking you're some dude who's not very interesting and that's why you don't get the date. Be more picky yourself.

 

[Slickster]

Maybe its the fact that you've been misled into believing that all women want sex just as much as you do. Sure many do, but many don't.

I think most women do want sex, but not with just anyone. Think about it. If you were a hot chick you could pretty much have sex with anyone you wanted at any given time. Now imagine living like that everyday of your life.

It wouldn't take long for you to get very picky would it?

You have to try harder at creating a genuine attraction. From the sounds of it they can tell all you're into is sex and a ONS. If you're genuinely bored speaking with women then they're going to sense that. Not very good for creating attraction.

Also ONS are great for guys wham wham wham splooge and you're out. No, thats not the way you do it. I know you'd do a better job than that. But most guys do just that. So when a girl goes in for a ONS she's probably not expecting too much. For men sex is just in and out and then a release. Its much more of an intimate event for most women if they are to be satisfied (orgasm). So in general ONS aren't going to be as good for a woman as they are for a man.

Maybe thats why they're not so excited to hop into bed with a guy who seems really bored with them but still wants sex.

Foreplay doesn't just happen in the bedroom.