Can A Man Ever Be Justified In Kicking A Woman' A**

Can A Man Ever Be Justified In Kicking A Woman' A**

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PRMoon

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That depends, I've only come across a few girls who know how to throw a decent punch. You know how alot of girls can't throw baseballs and what not correctly, it's kind of the same thing. They usually telegraph like crazy and they don't really have the mechanics behind punch placement down either. Dodging a girls punch isn't all that hard and if it does land it's usually just a graze and not worth getting worked up over.

Besides which you can restrain most girls fairly easily if you know what you're doing. They'll tire themselves out long before they do any real damage, well to me anyway.
 

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Originally posted by PRMoon
That depends, I've only come across a few girls who know how to throw a decent punch. You know how alot of girls can't throw baseballs and what not correctly, it's kind of the same thing. They usually telegraph like crazy and they don't really have the mechanics behind punch placement down either. Dodging a girls punch isn't all that hard and if it does land it's usually just a graze and not worth getting worked up over.
lol actually that's how most guys punch too, most don't have the slightest idea how to fight
 

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Originally posted by Fatality
lol actually that's how most guys punch too, most don't have the slightest idea how to fight
Got that right. One of the guys I hang out with says he'd "just go crazy" if he were to get into a fight.:confused: and he thinks he'd dominate. I told him he'd better hope he fights another rookie or he'll end up getting worked.
The first time I got into an actual fight I dislocated my finger. It hurt like a b*tch for days.
 

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You refuse to take other ppl's opinions and you think that your way is always right. What i was telling you was giving you a wakeup call that you are going down a one way road to jail, but it looks to me that you are a lost cause, so I'm going to halt trying to knock sence into you, your brain capacity seems to have reached its limit.. too bad its filled up with stupidity rather than wisdom


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Because we are in disagreement on this point, does not mean that I did not take your opinion into account. I considered your words and narrow choices that you laid out. FALSE DICHOTOMY: An informal fallacy that is committed when an arguer presents two nonjointly exhaustive alternatives as if they were jointly exhaustive and then eliminates one, leaving the other as the conclusion.


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If you are known to have been "beaten up" by a woman but u never hit her back, you will be looked upon with respect, because we all KNOW that being a man you would be able to kick her ass, its the fact that u chose NOT to kick her ass that people will respect you for.

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Your choices were false. You could also be looked upon as a pyssy. That’s what I meant by you throwing out narrow choices as if one was the the outcome of the other.
 

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Originally posted by PRMoon
You know how alot of girls can't throw baseballs and what not correctly, it's kind of the same thing.
I was an Allstar Little League pitcher and back up short stop and sometimes left field. Up to the time I got pregnant with my 5 year old I played on an all male softball team (pitching, left field and 2nd base). Although I throw quite well and can pack a fairly good punch, I'm still only 5 feet tall and most men could do far more damage to me than I could do to them. So being able to land a punch doesn't really mean a whole lot. Women just aren't typically as strong as men aside from the occassional exception.
 

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Originally posted by Brother_Rapp

Wildfire, I hope you're paying attention.
Erm...why did you direct that at me? Just because my ex husband was abusive it doesn't mean that I caused him to be. I actually tried VERY hard to make things work and never started any of the fights with him. We were married all of 3 months when I got pregnant and soon after had a miscarriage from him throwing me down cellar stairs during a drunken rage and being pi$$ed off at his boss. It's kinda hard to "embarass a man in public" when you're sound asleep. See, my ex used to wake me up one of two ways each morning. He would either hit or kick me in the head or force his stinky, sweaty, repulsive self on me. I used to say a prayer before I went to bed each night..."Dear God, please let him hit me in the head in the morning."....because the mere thought of sex with the repulsive bast@rd made my skin crawl.

You're an idiot, you know. That is all...
 

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this is just a lose lose situation. If a girl hits you in public and anybody is watching, they will probably think that you did something to warrant the blow. Maybe you accidentally bumped into her, maybe you smiled at her and said "hello," or maybe even she tried to cut you in line and you asked her to wait her turn. It doesn't matter. Once she starts yelling at you or trying to hit you, you are a man so you are perceived as the aggressor. Other men might try to get up in your face and you can find yourself in a lot of trouble.

you're guilty until proven innocent. If you hit the girl back then god help you.

I used to think women were flawless, perfect creatures that deserved nothing but love and attention. They were delicate and gentle flowers that appreciated male attention and opperated within clearly defined gender roles... ha ha ha ha ha. I would have told you that it was never okay to hit a woman under any circumstances. I never thought a woman could DESERVE to get hit. And then I grew up.

I still think it's usually a bad idea to hit anybody period, but I realize that in this day of age, women have all sorts of reasons to be angry, and rather than taking it out on the men who made them miserable, they'll pick some sap who's by himself and step to him the way a man would step to him. If a man steps to me and he gets in my grill, I'm going to hit him. Had to do it a few months ago (and I was in really bad shape - lukcy I didn't get hurt). I'm not going to wait until I get beat to think of retaliation. The only thing better than smacking him as he gets in my face is being able to run away. Not a macho thing to do but who the hell wants to be in a street fight? It's not light wrestling or sparring at the gym. People lose teeth, break bones, bleed, and dislocate fingers. Try dislocating both thumbs. It's no fun.

But when woman steps to you the way a tough guy would step to you, what do you do?

Unless you're a big, friendly dude in a place where you're well liked, I recommend ducking out or walking away. Just run away if you cannot walk fast enough. If you're big, she ain't gonna hurt you and other guys are going to have to think twice before becoming heros and trying to rescue her. You could probably laugh at her and take a shot from her. Her friends will drag her away or a bouncer will grab her. You won't get hurt and nobody will come running over to "defend" her. If you come off as a friendly guy, there's a good chance other people will realize that she's an angry mutt and give you the benefit of the doubt. If you are around people who support you, they can try to get her to back down.

But if you're an average size guy out sarging a bar and some nut bag ho gets in your face and starts waving her arms about because you bumped into her or something... run away. Even apologize. So what if a handful of people see it and think you're a wimp. Better to be embarrassed for a second in front of four or five people than to have a roomful of people wanting to kick your butt because they think you hit a woman.

I don't get it. i thought women were supposed to be feminine? I like a girl who can defend herself, but not ones who pick fights with men over trivial nonsense. I wouldn't feel bad for one of them if they took a punch, but I'm not going to be the one throwing it.

Hit a girl and the police won't take your side either. Neither will her brothers or her father. I refused to sleep with a girl at a party not too long ago and she called the police right in front of me and told them I was hitting her. I almost had a heart attack! I think I was the third or fourth guy she had done that to so the police didn't take her very seriously.

The best advice I can give you is never lose your cool with a woman and never allow a situation to escalate, unless there is mutual consent and it's happening under the blankets.
 

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I would never beat the hell out of a woman or go so far as to "kick her ass", but if something happens and she deserves a little slap Id give her one...One not too hard to leave a mark but hard enough to get it across.
 

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Originally posted by Brother_Rapp
Jariel

can a man ever be justified in kicking a woman a**.

That's the question. Yes or No? Stop dancing around.
Not every question can be answered with a yes or no because nothing is black and white.

But in the context you're talking of, then no I couldn't justify hitting a woman and the last time I saw a man hit a woman (my girlfriend at that time) he lived to regret it.

If a woman hits me, I'll walk away.
 

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Originally posted by Wyldfire
Erm...why did you direct that at me? Just because my ex husband was abusive it doesn't mean that I caused him to be. I actually tried VERY hard to make things work and never started any of the fights with him. We were married all of 3 months when I got pregnant and soon after had a miscarriage from him throwing me down cellar stairs during a drunken rage and being pi$$ed off at his boss. It's kinda hard to "embarass a man in public" when you're sound asleep. See, my ex used to wake me up one of two ways each morning. He would either hit or kick me in the head or force his stinky, sweaty, repulsive self on me. I used to say a prayer before I went to bed each night..."Dear God, please let him hit me in the head in the morning."....because the mere thought of sex with the repulsive bast@rd made my skin crawl.

You're an idiot, you know. That is all...
Why were you still with him if you don't mind me asking? How did he act before you were married?
 

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Originally posted by Fatality
Why were you still with him if you don't mind me asking? How did he act before you were married?
Well, I was 18 when I got married, was clueless about little warning signs that I can spot now. (Didn't have that ability then) It was my first real relationship. I was a virgin until I got involved with him and he honestly didn't show any warning signs in front of anyone else so no one spotted it to advise me against marrying him. It wasn't until after I married him that he started to show his true colors. On top of that, when I was younger, due to a total lack of emotion shown in my family (good or bad), the abuse filled a sort of messed up need I had at that time. I also don't like to give up. All kinds of things came into play, including 3 children in the first 6 years of the marriage. The abuse progressed slowly enough and I was naive enough to believe him when he said he would stop. But the last 4 years were horrendous.

I do take responsibility for allowing myself to be abused for so long...so that facet of it is my fault. Luckily I sorted all that stuff out and left without looking back in 1994. My ex has Borderline Personality Disorder and can hide just how messed up he is when it suits him to do so. But whoa...he really was a nightmare, especially towards the end. And before anyone asks...no, I didn't deny him sex until after he had been so abusive for so long that I couldn't help but be repulsed by him. After that point I didn't want him anywhere near me. To this day if he even comes within ear or eyeshot my skin literally crawls. He disgusts me to the core.
 

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If a woman you are dating or married tries to kick your ass, then you should end the relationship or marriage all together.

Staying in a relationship where you have to kick her ass in order to defend yourself or to stop her from b1tching at you, then you yourself have some issues to deal with.

Sometimes during a heated arguments, there are plenty of women that tend to slap their husband/boyfriend on the face because he said something or did something rude to her that was hurtful. I wouldn't justify that behaviour but if you were very wrong in your actions (like cheated on her) and she was emotionally devested and slapped you (you know the kind of chick slap that is not meant to injure you but meant to embarrass you?!) then maybe you deserved it.

Other then that situation, a woman should not ever hit a man and visversa ( of coarse if a woman goes psycho on you and tries to really physically injure you, then you have the right to protect your body with reasonable force)
 

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If she starts it, it's fair game.
 

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Originally posted by Wyldfire
My ex has Borderline Personality Disorder and can hide just how messed up he is when it suits him to do so.
whoa, that's pretty heavy. I'm sorry to hear about your relationship. You must have experienced all sorts of guilt and confusion every time you thought of leaving him. It's amazing how some people can switch back and forth from needy and helpless to raging and out of control, depending on which one of them you're most vulnerable to at a given time. You obviously made a very good decision getting out of that relationship and not looking back. You can't look back with someone like that. They stop behaving like they're psychotic, downplay everything they have ever done, and make it seem to you and everyone else that all of the problems with the relationship were your doing. Congratulations on being able to escape from that hell.

When I responded earlier, I said I wouldn't feel bad if a woman stepped to a man and then got smacked, the way it would happen to another man. I wasn't condoning violence but I appreciate the harsh reality of the street and think it's unfortunate that women are getting braver and more physical with men these days.

On the other hand, in the context of a relationship, it is NEVER right to hit your partner. Some of the other posters are asking, well, what if she mouths off to me? Can I kick her ass? That is pretty dumb.

Relationship violence is insidious, as Wyldfire describes, and it just keeps getting worse and worse. The violence becomes a cycle that is hard for both partners to escape from, until one of them takes a huge chance and leaves, becomes a killer, or gets killed.

If a 300 lb female professional wrestler comes up to you at a bar and stomps on your foot, I won't think any less of you if you push her out of the way and run for it. But if you are in a relationship with a woman who physically abuses you, or you feel like you would like to hurt her... just get the hell out of the relationship. Don't even ask yourself if you have the right to hurt her. If you come up with that question within the context of a relationship, then you must end that relationship.
 

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I'm reopening this thread. I see no problems with people discussing this subject.
 

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Robbie...I don't consider myself a "victim". Embracing that role does a person no good at all. I consider myself a "survivor". Rather than be angry and point the finger of blame anywhere I just took what I could learn from my experiences and took advantage of the opportunity to grow as a person. I wouldn't go back and change anything that has happened to me because it has made me who I am (who I like) and I have children I wouldn't trade for the world.

Yes, my ex is a miserable b@stard...but ultimately, he is a very sick man. Hopefully one day he will get help and really try to overcome his problems so he can have a decent relationship with our children. But for now, he is still obsessing over me leaving him and ironically, he considers himself to be a "victim". That's why he hasn't been able to move on and get well. I don't hate the man...I feel sorry for him if anything, but he really does cause a horribly negative physical reaction as I described. I would truly rather die than let him touch me. I don't want to be around him, see him or hear his voice and it just makes me feel physically ill. He just doesn't seem to "get" how repulsed I am by him, either, let alone why I feel that way. I guess justice was served in the end because I moved on, found happiness and have had very successful and good relationships. He, on the other hand, hasn't been able to do that.
 

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This is not about wife abuse. I don't see a situation where a wife hits her husband and he then turns around and kicks her a** as wife abuse.

Something that isn't talk about much is physical husband abuse. A guy could just get feed up with his wife physically abusing him and just take it in his hands to kick her a**.
 

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And another thing for those of you that feel that I am a dumb a**, narrow minded and a bunch of other dirty names, I say look at the poll. Yes, polls can be deceptive. I've said it before and feel bound to repeat it. However, right now it's 25 yes and 17 no. That means that there are 24 others in the voting that have similar views to mine.Throw your ill comments out to those others as well. Get off my fycking back.
 

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How many times have we seen Jennifer Gardner kick the a** of a bunch of men at the same time. Do we hear a cry from the feminists? Nooo. Do we hear a cry from the many closet politically incorrect chauvenistic pigs? Noooo. But turn the gender around and let it be a man that kicks the buts of a bunch of women and see how loud the gals cry foul.

Why is it that when people see an altercation between a man and a woman that the woman is the victim? Because the gal may be smaller? That's crap.I'd refer you to Uma Thurman, Jennifer Gardner, and that gal on "Million Dollar Baby", the original Emma Peel. Gals these days ain't all that helplesas. In fact, some of them are somewhat aggressive. In an altercation with a female, it ain't written in stone that that guy will get back up off that sidewalk.


That part about two wrongs don't make a right is crap. Ain't nobody thinking about a separate "right". Either you and your gal can be right together or wrong together. Violence should never be the first option in a relationship. But if a woman wants to cross that line, I say cross it with her.
 

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Originally posted by Brother_Rapp
And another thing for those of you that feel that I am a dumb a**, narrow minded and a bunch of other dirty names, I say look at the poll. Yes, polls can be deceptive. I've said it before and feel bound to repeat it. However, right now it's 25 yes and 17 no. That means that there are 24 others in the voting that have similar views to mine.Throw your ill comments out to those others as well. Get off my fycking back.
So your point is that there are 24 other people on this site who are narrow-minded dumbasses like you?

As for your poll, go ahead and add 4 million to the number that say yes... that's the number of women who "get their asses kicked" by their husband or live-in partner each year, according to the Department of Justice. Those guys all think there is justification for "kicking a woman's ass", too.
 

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