Calling

[soverign]

I met a girl, and I got her number. I waited two days to call. I called once and no one answered, I didn't leave a message. I called later in the day when I left work, still no answer still no message. I get home, after going to the gym, and she has asked to add me as her myspace friend so I know she is thinking about me. I leave her a comment with a picture I took of her at the party we met at. Then I check my new comments and she is asking if I called because she doesn't call back numbers she doesn't know, but she saw my number. So I call again, no answer but I left a message with my phone number this time..

I know I shouldn't call too many times. I don't want to seem clingy or needy. How often should I call if I don't get an answer?

I didn't leave a message because I didn't know exactly what to say and I didn't want to scare her off. What sort of message do you all leave when you call a girl you just met?

 

[SeldomSeen]

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let her call you now. Give her your digits man.









Seldom will you see me: Derby Citys best dancer!!

 

[soverign]

But if I give her my phone number and wait for her to call I'm giver her the power. Everything on this site says that isn't the way to do it.

Also when I leave a message your suggesting that I just leave my number?

 

[shyguy32]

well if you leave a message your also giving her the power...so don't leave a message.


I'm not the best one to be giving advice, but if you feel you must leave a message it would probably be something like...


Hey this is your name here.....you know the good looking guy from so and so...well I guess since you never answer your phone I had to resort to talking to a machine....give me a call....bye

something like that....I'm sure you'll get some better responses than that, but it's a start.

You have a few choices....1 you give her your number, 2. you leave a message...3. you set up something through email...4. say NEXT

 

[stalluproar]

I always leave a message and usually get a call back. In the past I would leave a message and not get the call. The difference is how you word the message.

Before this is what I would say: Hi this is Andy, hey just seeing what is going on, if you want, just give me a call back <number>, talk to you later.

Now this is what I say: Hey <name>, this is Andy, we met at <place>. Well I am calling to say Hi and chat for a little bit. When you get this, give me a call <number>. Talk to you soon.

I think it is blatently obvious why I didn't get calls back before. What I changed is framing the voice mail message as a directive for her to call me back. It is like when you say I am going to x place and why don't you meet me there. You are not giving her the power for getting in her car and meeting you at x place. You are directing her to meet you at x. The same situation applies for the phone call.

You also need to emphasize the, "Once you get this, give me a call" a little bit more in the message.

Don't always think 100% without exception that having her call back is giving your power away.

 

[tristan22]

As long as i've been in the game, i still don't understand girls and phone calls? I've slept with girls who didn't return my phone calls and vice versa--confusing i know!!!!

 

[( . )( . )]

Originally posted by soverign
Then I check my new comments and she is asking if I called because she doesn't call back numbers she doesn't know, but she saw my number. So I call again, no answer but I left a message with my phone number this time..

"SHE doesnt call back numbers she doesnt know" well then perhaps SHE should pick up the phone.
Does she want whats scarce? does she want the prize? (This is you btw) if so then these are the risks and sacrifices this b!tch must make to be with her dream man.

Here it is: Call her back 4 to 7 days later, never on a weekend, always at night around 8 or 9. She doesnt pick up you wait 1 or 2 days and try once more, never leave messages (thats for fags and chicks), never give her your number.
End of story.

 

[Royal Elite]

You make a hamburger by putting the meat on the stove and cooking it, not by turning on the stove and hoping the meat jumps in the the pan!

Call the number and if no one picks up leave a message!

 

[MackJr]

I just used stalluproar's method and I'll see how it goes. I think tit's ((.)(.)) position is too extreme. I've received calls back from women with higher interest levels.

 

[soverign]

I think that tits ( . )( . ) position is a bit too strong too. I do think that stalluproars suggestion is best. Leaving a message that is more like a command and less like begging is a great idea.

I have always felt that how you say things really shows your true character, and stalluproar really hit the nail on the head for wording.

 

[Kenturkey]

leave a message

I think there are a lot of women are there who do this. A lot of people in general. I don't answer numbers I don't recognize. If you don't leave a message, I'm *CERTAINLY* not calling you back. To a certain extent, I believe tits is wrong on this one.

Don't leave some loser message like :

"oh hi, this is peabody nonads, I, um, met you, um, i'm kind of afraid of voicemails and girls and scary hamsters. please call me back, i have no life and i'm desperate."

What I do when I call a new girl is leave a short message, not unlike a command.

"Hi, X, this is Chris. Call me back when you get this. 859-GOT-BALLS"

If they're *SO* disinterested in you that you think leaving a message will have a negative impact, I think you've already lost. It's one thing to be a proud DJ and know you're the prize. It's another thing to be an arrogant jerk that no girl in her right mind would have anything to do with. Just my opinion. No offense Tits. I don't think you're an arrogant jerk.

Besides, if they do call back, you can always cut 'em short to put the power back on your side.

"Sorry, can't talk right now, babe. I'm (wrestling a bear/building a battleship/logging a forest/overhauling my car's engine) can I call ya back later when I'm finished?"

Chris

 

[soverign]

Kenturky I am not afraid of calling or leaving a message, I do it all day at work. My message went like this: "C-- this is Soverign, my number is 502-XXX-XXXX, later". Now I don't think it was great, but not nearly as bad as it could have been.

Also I am not so worried that leaving a message would be negative, rather I was worried about give away control. I see know that leaving a message does not necessarily do that.

Soverign

 

[tristan22]

Girls will rarely call back, unless interest level is through the roof--even then sometimes they still don't call back.

Crazy broads............lol!!!

 

[soverign]

In a way I don't expect girls to call back. They learn early on that the boy calls and they wait. They never seem to get over that.

 

[( . )( . )]

Maybe I should be a bit clearer on why leaving messages is for chicks and fags.

#Gives the b!tch an opportunity to think logically (logic for a chick anyway)

#Puts the ball in her court

#Chicks flake too easy, she flakes on calling you back for whatever chick reason youve blown it for good , person on person has a far greater impact and reduces flakeosity 10 fold

#Men talking on phones is a homo act at the best of times, but a man talking solo to a chicks machine is 2 steps shy of joining the village people, not to mention I just think I'm above talking to the b!tches machine, dont you?

 

[tristan22]

^^^^^^^^^^

I disagree, real DJ's do what they want to do and do not worry about the end result or what others think! If you want to leave a message, leave a freaking message!

I'm still trying to apply/adapt to this philosophy. It seems like the best alternative in fixing insecurity!

 

[( . )( . )]

Originally posted by tristan22
^^^^^^^^^^

I disagree, real DJ's do what they want to do and do not worry about the end result or what others think!

Who says I'm worrying about what others think? none of my post suggested that. All I'm saying is if you want the most logical path of least resistance to her vagina avoid answering machines.

 

[tristan22]

Why should it matter if you leave a message or not? How is it more logical not to leave a message?

There is no right or wrong answer. My point is, do what you want to do! Some of you over-complicate things and newbies get confused and continue to be dateless and alone.

I approach tons of girls and i get tons of numbers. Regardless if you leave a message or not, it's a numbers game.

 

[( . )( . )]

Originally posted by tristan22
Why should it matter if you leave a message or not? How is it more logical not to leave a message?

Didnt I just cover this? Weve been here before I'm sure I'm getting a strong sense of deja vu

 

[SeldomSeen]

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Don Juan

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leaving a message is courtesy and it puts the ball in her court yes but in NO WAY does it give her any form of power. Its basically saying hey Im calling you, here's my number and a message get back with me. Now the thing is once he leaves this message then she's 'black' and its her turn to move on the chess board. If she doesnt the stalemate. No one won or loss, no love lost.


Ive always left 1 message. If the girl never returned my call I forgot about her. If I saw her out later that week or whatever I pretended she wasnt even there. You dont know how much the card of indifference gets their mental gears turning.





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