calling the black DJs

[Player_Supreme]

Originally posted by Microphone Fiend
Yea, I'm black, born in America, raised in a country with over 85% blacks.

Hmm... I don't get it. You think the average black male is alpha and powerful and that some cop out. You make it sound as if it is hereditary. What about nature vs nurture? Many latino dudes got mad game, is it because they were born with it or it was just instilled in them from a young age?

1. what country were you raised in?

2. you need to look at the real history of black in america, since you were not RAISED here.

3. what country do you live in now?

4. and while your at it look at genetics and the forced breeding during slavery days. Infact take into account the brutality of the slave ships were only the strongest of the strong survived that long assed trip. Were do you think hitler got his ideas of breeding the perfect race from.

Originally posted by Microphone Fiend

As a kid who went private school, I can bet that many ghetto black kids, latinos or even white kids got more game then me.

1. hmmm this explains alot.

2. lil bruh look at ya. you think white boys have more game than you...you've been brain washed...bamboozled...the wool has been pulled over ya eyes. You have been taught the wrong message kid.

3. are you trying to impress the whites on this board by mentioning that you went to private school? these cats do not care if you live or die fella.

Originally posted by Microphone Fiend

Is it cuz I aint staying true to my culture or MAYBE I can't identify with that culture because I wasn't raised in it? It's simply a matter of nature vs nurture when you get down to it. I may have said before that I thought that ebonics were taught at birth as a joke before but I WAS JUST KIDDING, it aint a matter of staying true, it's a matter of exposure. Take Lenny Kravitz for example, he grew up in the white suburbs of LA, with the rich hollywood people and tea parties and sh!t probably. Is he a sellout? Should he have moulded his image to things he has never encountered in his life (and never will) and has only seen on television, because it isn't part of his reality? Then doesn't he merely become a copycat, wouldn't that make him similar to a black wigga, copying what he has no business copying?

1. Lenny Kravitz is mixed with a white father. You are what your father is as the saying goes...so why you bring his ass up I don't know. He has nothing to do with being a blood and as you said "never will".

Originally posted by Microphone Fiend

You say there's a difference between American bruthas and ones from other countries? It is interesting that you should say this. I had a headmaster once (he was white ) And he went to Africa and found out some interesting facts. For example Africans despised African-Americans. They viewed them as sellouts in a way, who always talked (only talk) about going to the motherland. And their idea of getting back to their roots was throwing on a dashiki; listening to Afrika Bambaataa and watching "The Roots" on their plasma tv. They hate the "true blacks" who buy cars and clothes with wanton disregard. If a ghetto brotha went back to the motherland, they'd probably view him as a "sellout" too.

1. what is with the "eek" in your message?

2. we know africans do not like american brutha's and consider us sell outs for our ancestors allowing us to be slaves and all that...what is your point kid? Where are you going with your argument.

3. I think you were a bit too fast to defend your whiteness fella. Infact this whole paragraph has nothing to do with the point in question.

4. You must be one of "those" type of niggas. Don't worry I'm an ex one of "those" types myself. I know that it comes from self hatred and being raised amongst too many whites. You grow to hate the color of your skin and black acting nigga's make you feel embarrassed with their loud acting and talking selves.

Then you will grow out of it as you grow up and return to your roots. Your black kid. Nothing is going to make you white. It's ok to speak proper english. But it's not ok to hate your own race!

 

[Player_Supreme]

Originally posted by JohnElDonJuan
Im a white actin black DJ. I grew up deep in the hood but I went to a white middle school. I know how to act white at times and I know how to act black at times. I like actin white because it's comfortable and predictable, but I hate the way my own people treat me sometimes when I'm caught off guard, sometimes I slip up and say a word with way too many syllables. My actin white doesnt change th way alot of white people treat me either because no matter how white I act, I am black(I aint ashamed either) and theres always white people out there with negative preconcieved ideas about black people. I like actin black for the respect I get from it, but I hate the unpredictable outcomes that comes from actin that way. Its easy for me to act white all I have to do is have a passive semi-intellectual attitude. Its alittle harder for me to act black because its alittle like being a DJ. I have to display dominant body language at all times. I have to keep my mouth shut but have my ears wide open at all times. The only part about actin black I dont do is the blatantly ignorant behaviours we may sometime display, white people can act very ignorant at times too but they hide it most of the times but im not here to talk about white ignorant behaviours. Getting back to black ignorant behaviours, from what I see in the hood I live in its all about preying on the weak to make yourself look better or to say how you feel at all time wherever you are, Its all about having a sharper wit to chop down all potential competition, Its about making that example out of someone or clowning someone it might even be simpler than all this, it could be that if you act different you get treated as different. I dont act that way and I dont want to act that way because its all bull-**** to me but I dont look down on it either because to truly survive it takes great mental strength, cunning and being sharply in tuned to your gut, but more times than not it takes a closed mind to be this way and I dont have a closed mind thats why I dont act that way.

I'll put it like this, I have a "black" demeanor and a "white" mind but what lies in my heart is the same things that lies in the hearts of everyone regardless of race.

1. Yeah you a nigga alright. Have ya ever heard of a paragraph homie? Dam!...LOL.

2. what lies in your heart should be different cause you are a different race. Think about that for a moment.

3. You must act white in order to get respect from whites...so that makes whats in your heart different.

4. You have been exposed to things whites don't get...like getting 2nd class treatment at grocery or deparment stores...and you know what I mean...that will change your heart....

5. When you go to apply for a job...I don't even need to go into that ....that should create a difference.

Plus by blood your mighty heart should be different. Look at little black kids then white kids...you will notice that our kids are more naturally muscular and more athletic. It's a heritage of blood from 400 years of slavery and from our african forefathers.

When you truly connect with your heart you will know the difference.

 

[JohnElDonJuan]

as posted by Player_Supreme

1. Yeah you a nigga alright. Have ya ever heard of a paragraph homie? Dam!...LOL.

ahahahah! thats funny but your right I did forget to chop it into paragraphs.

2. what lies in your heart should be different cause you are a different race. Think about that for a moment.

Thought about it. I don't know exactly what you mean by how whats in me is different than anothr white kid my same age. I believe we want the same things from life we just have different ways about getting them.

3. You must act white in order to get respect from whites...so that makes whats in your heart different.

but is the difference really that big?

4. You have been exposed to things whites don't get...like getting 2nd class treatment at grocery or deparment stores...and you know what I mean...that will change your heart....

5. When you go to apply for a job...I don't even need to go into that ....that should create a difference.

I cant argue with these two points.

When you truly connect with your heart you will know the difference.

How does one truly connect with ones heart in that way?

Oh yeah I always wondered where you were from because I never heard alot of the slang you bring to this board and I know how we speak down here in philly because I speak it too and I never heard them speak in the way you speak. for example whats a goober? then you have a word for afc I cant think of off the top of my head but in my hood we call afc's a noodle or a nut bul(bul=boy for those that dont speak sling)

 

[NewMan]

There's no wonder there's so much racism around with posts like this sh#t.

You guys need to get out and see the world and broaden your horizon's some.

Believing that agressiveness with women is down to your genetics is just plain dumb.

You've only got to travel to europe - take a look an Italy for example. The Italian guys are as about agressive with women as you can get.

It's not down to genes, or race or anything other that social and economic factors.

It's all about what you have or have not got to lose. It's about attitude that you've grown up with. It's about fear. It's about losing what you have.

I think it's fair to say that those people living in poorer areas have to be agressive in everything they do. It's survival.

I've poorer friends who are extremely agressive - but not just with women - with life in general.

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The thing that pisses me off is all the self-hating dudes up in Canada or Europe lurking on this site only to diss their american counter-parts.
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Didn't you get the memo - Europeans et al. dispise Americans.

 

[GQ Prettyboy]

Look there is this book called From Niggas to Gods. Go to a local bookstore or african american bookstore and read it. It will open your eyes to a lot sh!t. We already have what it takes to be DJ. We just don`t know how to unleash our inner God.

 

[Player_Supreme]

Originally posted by JohnElDonJuan
as posted by Player_Supreme


ahahahah! thats funny but your right I did forget to chop it into paragraphs.

Thought about it. I don't know exactly what you mean by how whats in me is different than anothr white kid my same age. I believe we want the same things from life we just have different ways about getting them.

but is the difference really that big?

I cant argue with these two points.

How does one truly connect with ones heart in that way?

Oh yeah I always wondered where you were from because I never heard alot of the slang you bring to this board and I know how we speak down here in philly because I speak it too and I never heard them speak in the way you speak. for example whats a goober? then you have a word for afc I cant think of off the top of my head but in my hood we call afc's a noodle or a nut bul(bul=boy for those that dont speak sling)

1. Let me start at the end. The word is Symp. Here is what I want you to do. Go down to your local track (place where pimps and prostitutes sell their wares). Walk up to one of the pimps and ask him what a symp is.

2. Or you can log onto

http://pimphop.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=5&sid=4935ce5ef69cede213ab8e4cf4a00c51

and get a real education by real playas in verbology.

3. I guess you are probably too young to know what a goober is. Ask someone around 30 or so, or ask your Daddy. Then you probably don't know what a Dudley Dooright is either but I'll bet you know what a sponge bob square pants type of fool is.

4. I'm living in Cali right now, but my slang comes from all over the country. You might try listening to current songs or look up the urban dictionary online as some of the white kids do.

5. About connecting to your heart, it comes with maturity and growth. One day you will realize that you don't need to put on machinations to be who you really are. You won't have to pretend to slip up and use a big word just to create a difference between you and other niggas out there. You won't have to "code switch" from proper english to other forms...it will all blend in and you won't have to carry your EGO around on your shoulders. You probably do not understand where I'm coming from but one day you will son.

6. So you thought about it huh...I don't think so. You thought for 5 seconds and still missed the point. Because your black your world is shaped differently from that of white kids. You experience things differently...unless racial prejudice suddenly dried up and no one told me. Think about how you experience shyt differently for a while.

Our culture is different. I was at a old head party (that means older folks party) of 70 plus age recently. I'm 45, my date was 49. Her best friend is about the same age. The best friend was this vanessa williams looking type. She and I were talking about how our people are losing our culture what little of it we have left.

The old are not teaching the young anymore. She procceeded to grab these kids who were at the party also. Two boys about 13 and 12. To teach em how to dance. Her instructions to the oldest were that "your the man so you lead and I'm the woman so I have to follow you"

Something as simple as that, but so profound in it's truth.

Your young kid so you don't recall how it USED to be, and of which I'm happy for. I'm glad my own kids grew up and didn't experience the things I did as a child.

I'm glad they didn't have to turn on the tv as kids and see black people being beaten down in the streets of Georgia or hanging from trees. I'm glad they didn't see the first black college student crossing that campus getting spit on...or have to travel accross country and piss in coke bottles cause they didnt' serve us in resturants in certain parts....

I'm the last of that time period and it needs to die down for good. When my generation is gone I think guy's like you will be the norm then.

 

[Player_Supreme]

Originally posted by NewMan


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The thing that pisses me off is all the self-hating dudes up in Canada or Europe lurking on this site only to diss their american counter-parts.
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Didn't you get the memo - Europeans et al. dispise Americans.

lol

 

[disciple]

I have something I'd like to say to JohnElDonJuan.

It's not about acting "white" or acting "black".

It's about respecting yourself and being true to who and what you are and at the same time giving respect to those who respect you.

I am a 31 year Black man and I am proud of my roots.

For me to deny my roots would be to spit in the face of my mother, father, grandparents, and all the great Black men and women throughout history.

I've gone to schools and been in classes that were predominantly white or non-black and I was just ME.

I never tried to "act white" so I would be or feel more accepted.

I'm a friendly, easy to get along with kind of person so I had no problem getting along with people from another race so long as they showed me the same respect.

The important thing to me is respect.

If someone respects me, I'll respect them no matter what race they are.

If someone does not respect me, then I will not respect them either and that goes for anybody no matter what race they are.

 

[Vincent]

I'm not entirely sure what is going on in here, but it doesn't seem very kosher, so I'm gonna close it.

If you have a valid argument for me to re-open it, use the PM feature.

Have a good day.