Calling All TRUE Don Juans

[looking for answers]

This is a completely unique thread. Its more of an advertisement (of sorts). Thing is, i am in a completely unique situation, one that i would really require to talk to somebody about using msn or aol instant messenger. Simply because, its quite complex, and its quite a challenge and i dont want to have to sift through advice from countless newbies who dont know what their talking about no offence!

So here's the deal, if any of you fall into the following categories, please IM me on aol or email. My contact details are at the bottom.

- experienced with being a don juan, skilled with knowing how to seduce numerous types of women.

- not discriminatory because of a certain set of circumstances (that i will explain)

- not too critical of any afc tendancies i may have

i will explain all to anyone who has the time or inclination to help a guy like me. All i'll say is as a bit of background:


i'm 20 and i've been with a good amount of girls, in a number of relationships but i've recently got involved in a certain situation with whom i know its "it" despite it not going according to plan at the moment.

so anyone who wont be too harsh and also who will find some time to help me come up with a plan to get what i want out of my "situation" would be appreciated.

basically a strategist in djing and seduction who is willing to help me come up with a plan of action..


p.s. i know few people will but i'm sure there's some soul out there who can sympathise with going after the "One" and i dont mean that in an afcish way cos actually i wouldnt consider myself as that..

private message me with ur msn/aim screen name if ur nice enough to help

 

[Kineti[C]harm]

I'm pretty sure you're out of luck for that, we don't (Atleast I don't) like to have to resort to stuff like that...

If you really want help I am sure that newbies will keep out of the thread and that the very helpfull ones like Player Supreme, PRL etc will try and help you.

So in short, post your problems here please.

 

[The Bad Ass Canadian]

Post it here.

this is an anonymous forum, so you shouldn't be afraid to give out the details.

We'll help you through this, an you'll get many different perspectives and do what serves you best.

 

[looking for answers]

its not that, its for a number of reasons:

a) i've seen loads of threads where a guy pours his heart out and people slag him big time and he gets no where, or they just tell him to "Move on" when i know i cant because for the first time in my life i know she's the one, and i dont care how afc that sounds, because i am not an afc and i dont need to prove that 2 anyone.

b) my situation is so complex that it would probably take a lot of writing and few will want to read it all

but ok... lol...

i'll begin writing.

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Since you are so sensitive, we won't chatise you too harshly. But remember, strong words and harsh advice is needed at times to 'wake' and 'shake' things up!! Don't take it personally, we don't know you.

 

[The Bad Ass Canadian]

Ok,
how about you be really insanely honest with us, when you tell us WHY she is "The One"

Answer me that, to the deepest detail, and I won't rip on you, unless they are insanely stupid reasons.

Please don't take offense.

I come here to help the up and comers. Sometimes tough love is the only way to get through to the raging AFCs.

I'm quite curious, though.

The Bad Ass Canadian

 

[NewMan]

Dude - this is an advice board.

Many of the guys here may rip on you - so what?

Many more will give you great advice - and it helps to get multiple opinions - you can weed through the advice and choose what will work for you.

 

[Player_Supreme]

when the student is ready the teacher will appear.

I sent you my aol screen name.

But let me say that when your dealing with "the one" or any other woman the rules do not change!

 

[Hot Ice]

Even if you talk to Player_Supreme, send your post here too.
Couple of more opinions/viewpoints can't do any harm.

 

[squirrels]

I don't think your circumstances are "so complex" that they defy all the basic principles. There's nothing wrong with seeking "the One." There IS a problem if you're trying to fit a girl to that "One" position who just isn't worthy, or if you're seeking a "One" without first being a "One" yourself.

Yeah, you gotta take what comes here wiht a grain of salt, but then EVERYONE here thinks that "they know what they're talking about." So filtering your request wtih that isn't going to save you much.

 

[Hot Ice]

Originally posted by squirrels
I don't think your circumstances are "so complex" that they defy all the basic principles. There's nothing wrong with seeking "the One." There IS a problem if you're trying to fit a girl to that "One" position who just isn't worthy, or if you're seeking a "One" without first being a "One" yourself.

Yeah, you gotta take what comes here wiht a grain of salt, but then EVERYONE here thinks that "they know what they're talking about." So filtering your request wtih that isn't going to save you much.

Man, you have learned a lot and your attitude has changed during last half year if I'm not completely wrong!

 

[Player_Supreme]

Oh if you doubt my qualifications:

http://www.sacscene.com/pn1/modules...ame=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php


From friday night at an older persons club.

 

[squirrels]

Originally posted by Player_Supreme
Oh if you doubt my qualifications:

http://www.sacscene.com/pn1/modules...ame=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php


From friday night at an older persons club.

Do you tell 'em you play football? You look like you could play DL somewhere.

Originally posted by Hot Ice
Man, you have learned a lot and your attitude has changed during last half year if I'm not completely wrong!

When you actually start INTERACTING with women, you begin to learn things that this site CAN'T teach you. This site preaches a certain philosophy designed to whip the wuss out of AFCs, but it won't help you in a relationship.

The "fvck or next" philosophy works well for practitioners of Speed Seduction and those guys who really DO want ceaseless casual sex. There's nothing wrong with that, it's completely natural. And EVERYONE enjoys casual sex from time to time. But there's this misconception in pop culture that being a "player" is somehow BETTER than not being one. And everyone starts to base their self-worth on how many women they've slept with, giving little regard to the quality of the women or the value of female companionship.

Lots of us aren't built that way and trying to be something we're not isn't going to make us any happier. There's a WORLD of difference between being in a balanced, happy relationship with a woman who gives as much as you do and a parasitic, AFCish "One-itis" that turns what should be a MAN into a sympathetic, needy little b!tch, but many fail to make the distinction.

This site is about reclaiming your male power and dominance over women. As long as you deal with them from a position of personal power and understand that they're only women and can't control you, whether you CHOOSE (emphasis on it being YOUR CHOICE and not something you're driven too by need) to spend more time with one individual girl is completely up to you.

 

[looking for answers]

You want to know why i believe she's the one?

Because in my lifetime i've been with a number of different girls. Some were attractions, some were infatuations, some were passing fancies, some i strangely liked just because they had a nice personality and otehrs i just wanted to fvck. I've liked/thought i loved girls in all the different ways you can like/love them but this IS different.

You say i should be "the one" myself before i declare i've found the one. Actually i'd say i am. I'm more happy with myself now than i have ever been. I've accepted who i am and i'm comfortable with it. I will always try to improve and i strive for that every day but i've grown up a hell of a lot and no longer do i just go after a "lay".

So yeah, i am not an afc or very sensitive. I'm just very wary of wasting time on reading bad advice, but all you guys who've posted so far seem like u know what ur talkin about so here goes...

 

[dcfball]

omg guys hey im 21 and like im in love can u help me out?? she wont return my phoen calls but i know1 she is teh oine for me!!


GUYS WILL U TWELL ME HOW TO SECUCE?>! PELASe?!!

LOOK I SWEAR SHE IS TEH ON1!

 

[Kineti[C]harm]

squirrels: FEW people can be a player, it's more natural than anything in the pickupgame... I don't see why people stribe to be one either.

 

[TooColdUlrick]

looking for answers...i guarantee that your situation is NOT so unique, especially for the older (eh hem, experienced) DJs whose advice you are seeking privately.

the fact that you are afraid to post it on an anonymous board itself indicates AFCness and insecurity.

your excuse that it's "long" is invalid. you are going to have to explain the situation privately, correct? it will take the same amount of time, correct? so post here, and get different viewpoints.

 

[looking for answers]

dammit people, i'm writing, i'm writing just been busy too... but i was going to post originally, just wanted to get interest from the right people... insecurity and afcness pfttt.. whatever.. that wud explain why i am in the process of writing it

 

[looking for answers]

This is the story.

After coming out of a long relationship and having a string of one night stands/short relationships, i give up on the whole game for a few months to concentrate on my own physical and mental improvement.

One day i get talking to a girl on the internet. We got on well and shared many similar interests/life experiences/centiments on life. We talked every once in a while for a few months but i had no interest since she was just an internet person and i'd never done that whole online dating thing before so for now i was happy getting on with my life and talking to her on occassion.

Then one day she tells me shes going to a rock gig. Just so happens i'd already got tickets to the same one. So we decide we may as well meet. (We live approx 30 miles apart). I should mention at this point that shes described herself as very shy and self conscious, so despite having seen some pictures of her, i take this as a sign there is something inherintly wrong with her.

But we meet, and there isnt. In fact shes gorgeous. Very very cute indeed. We also get on like a house on fire. At the same time i play it cool (she later remarks i gave off the impression that i didnt give a sh1t). The whole rock gig thing was very good since it was an "action" date. Now, i should explain here - she WAS very shy and insecure. Half the time she was looking at her feet (she told me beforehand on the net she does that when she likes guys around) and telling me she felt really shy. Even so we got on great.

Then about half way through, i leaned close to her to hear what she was trying to say (the music was loud) and she kisses me! Just out of the blue! Of course i wasnt complaining. For the rest of the gig, we kiss more, get very physically close and comfortable with eachother. Then the gig ends and we say goodbye. She later told me she "loved" when i held her, she felt really "safe", "comfortable" and "nice".

About 30 minutes after i get a text message on my phone saying
"i just want u 2 know i REALLY like u. ur hot and funny and bla bla bla and i dont want u 2 just be some guy i kissed at a gig"

i take this as a good sign but continue to play it cool.

Meanwhile we talk a little more online and on the phone a few times.

I ask her out. She says she cant do dates because she's been hurt too often in the past and needs to know the relationship is going somewhere. I.e. She cant do "lets just wait and see".

At this point i tell her i like her and i want to see more of her. She then proceeds to say she's "falling for" me. Its not a big surprise.

People reading this would think shes weird but trustme we got on *that* well at the gig - we just clicked.

She put herself down a lot, so i complimented her a lot (maybe a bad move as she gets too used to it)

Anyway she said shes falling for me a few more times and i say i really like her ( to reassure her ) plus i sort of do so its not really lieing.

Really, dj rules and so on just didnt seem to matter, it really felt like we were falling for eachother.

We agreed to meet the next week. Her friend was going to my city anyway for a uni interview so she had an excuse to see me.

But the second date didnt go too well. In fact it was a bit of a disaster. We got on OK. And within 10 minutes of meeting - we were kissing and all again. But after that things just went wrong somehow. I was probably too laid back and didnt seem like i cared much... maybe it p1ssed her off. Either way she tells me she's not ready for a relationship. That she's got too much on her plate. That her parents had a big "serious" talk with her earleir in the week in which they severly warned her off me.

Plus she said she wasnt ready for a relationship anyway - and that "if we went out - i know it'd get serious and we'd fall in love and i just am not ready for that".

She also said once that when she was around me in real life she felt more like she was with a friend!! (wtf - even tho she kissed me countless times)

considering its a shock, i dispute it a little and try to get her to change her mind with no luck. I dont know what went wrong. Really - it could have been cos i was too withdrawn and not affectionate enough, but i didnt want to give her too much too soon. But then she also said i liked her too much and it scared her. even tho she came on very strongly indeed!

Anyway since then she's hardly talked to me online and has said numerous times "just because i dont say anything doesnt mean im still not feelign something"

i dunno what happened guys, this felt like the real thing. Its just all disappeared in front of me and i dont know why. Like the nicest thing thats happened to me (and i include it about a 14 month relationship that was fulfilling and good mostly) No infatuation, no "thinking" i was falling in love, just plain real.

But somehow it went horribly wrong.

Some Background
She is 18. She is comign to live in my city in september to go to university. She was with a guy for a year. He hurt her bad, she isnt very experienced and very shy. She thinks i "came on too strongly" this despite all that she said and did!!!

So i want her back. Simply. I will date other girls in between but i am determined to be with her come september, or maybe even from over the summer when her exams have finished.
And i know i can, because i know how much she really liked me. I knew from the moment i saw her - i said to myself without even thinking "she's the one"

So, how?

 

[Player_Supreme]

1. You opened up a can of worms with this girl. Ask yourself why is this beautiful young woman single? Your story told me alot about HER personality without even having to meet her.

2. Did you find out about her last boyfriend? How was that relationship. Was he a dog and treated her badly? What happened to break them up?

3. Your situation isn't that different from many other guys. There is a fella on this site right now very much in the same situation, whom I've been talking to via PM's.

4. You think you've found a soul mate because you got along so well. Women can make or break it. All they have to do is be receptive and maleable and a man will think she is the world. Add in the shy thing and a man will think he has found his angel. This isn't to say she isn't shy. My point is that you really do not know this person. She just pulled your player card on you. I will say that I like her style.

5. In the area of her style:

a) be very shy..
b) give you a kiss out of the blue
c) tell you really really fast that she likes you...then later add in the "I'm falling for you"
d) then say I know we would fall in love and I'm not ready for that.
e) jerk your emotions around like the carrot and a stick...masterful...I applaud her...this is the type of girl that I like. One who knows how to play ( or a natural as most women are) the game and is more of a challenge.

6. From reading your story kid, you lost your don juan card because this emotional creature made you say that you cared for her...she set you up. She is the type of woman who needs a SYMP to fall all over her so that she feels secure and safe. Your acting distant and cool isn't what she is looking for. Her drama that SHE created is to establish control over you....and to create a desperation within you....like it obviously did...to up your attention level to the queen bee.

Your messing with a pro...don't let her age fool you. All women are masters of the game...they learn at a very young age how to manipulate men...they read magazines on it...cosmo...and all the rest.

Examine your desperation level inside and review your facts...you will see that I am correct.

There is nothing on this site to prepare you for the overly emotionally needy type out their. These women know how to amp up a mans emotions towards them. And funny thing is most of them are very beautiful. It's all about them. It's all about their need to be loved.

So if you want her back....become the biggest AFC this site has ever even heard of and beg her to give you a try...get on your knees and cry and tell her that you will love her for the rest of your life and will make her life a secure paradise...and that you will work your fingers to the bone so that she can go shopping with her girlfriends at the malls and drive a nice car and that you will help her with her school work and find her a job if she wants....ect...ect....


My view is based on what you wrote...