Called her out. sh!t test to see if she still got me. proceed or silence?

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This model i was supposed to meet for a date last fri 2 fridays ago off facebook seemed excited to see me and i know where i went wrong because i anticipated she would flake so i was surprised when i originally arranged it 2 mondays ago that she seemed into it..took me by surprise. She asked me what i wanted her to wear for me.. i know this is where i f'd up had i been more dominant and said something sexual she wouldn't have been flaky. But i said something along lines of i appreciated the gesture and anything she wears would be classy (yes i know afc). Fast forward to that thurs she didn't respond to my confirmation message on whatsapp and only at 5pm on the day she said she was sorry and counter offered for Sat.

I wasn't sure if this was an availibility test or whether she was being genuine. I decided to accept and told her same time same place. Fast forward to sat and when i tell her where to meet me she tries to get me to meet her at a bar with her gf cos she forgot she had dinner reservations.. She basically lives in her own world spoilt model etc i told her off basically saying she should be excited to see me not forget what shes doing. And that if we're gona meet shes gona need to make it up to me. Yes i know low IL and i realised after i shoulda just went silent when she said to meet for ****tails with her gf instead. I declined that offer but i should have been silent. Silence works.

Fast forward to last fri i messaged her saying so when is she gona make it up to me, no response.. so basically i put her in her place and tell her off for being a spoilt model living in her own world with utter disrespect and disregard for other ppl's time and that if she apoligised after that woulda been a start but no, nothing. In my eyes that was the end of it i wasn't gona contact her anymore.

So now today she messages me this evening saying 'i applogise. I hope you can accept that x'

This is an attention seeking sh1t test right?

I was tempted to respond tomorrow with 'i appreciate the apology as it must be difficult for you to say sorry but it's a bit late for apologies now and i would expect a firm counter offer of meeting from you to make it up to me. Actions speak louder than words.' Should i stay silent or go with that?

I feel it's an attention seeking test and if i respond I'll shoot myself in the foot. She disrespected me i told her off put her in her place like her daddy would. I doubt it's a sincere apology but also shes so spoilt i dont think she realizes that offering another time to meet is only acceptable way to make it up to me.
 

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You are yo invested in this. There are so many mistakes I don't know where to begin. You shouldn't have told her off. When she countered for sat and then later invited with friends I would have said no ty maybe another time. Call me when you are free. Then wait. You are coming across as a needy p ussy. You should just next her and if she contacts you then fine.
 

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Uhhhh....I have no idea what to do with this.

Anytime they ask you what they should wear, a version of "something sexy" is the right response...

But here are my comments:

1) Don't ever arrange dates more than a few days in advance and especially not the first date. Way too much time for someone else to come into the picture.

2) Every woman who flakes/disses/rejects you in these posts you claim is "spoilt". Not for nothing, maybe it's that you have no game.

3) You think by throwing a little temper tantrum like a 5 year old that didn't get their way is going to make her realize what a mistake she made? Please...her low interest got even lower due to you acting butt hurt and showing her you have no options.

4) It might have been an availability check, and if it was you failed.

5) Trust me, you didn't put her in her place. She ditches lame dudes like you all the time once she finds out they are lame. She could care less about you, and you are the one taking time to think and post about her on a forum.

6) She got back to you so she could keep you in orbit and get validation/attention when she needs it.

7) Again, the only thing you did with her is show her you are a butt hurt little boy with no options, far from acting like her daddy. If you acted like "her daddy" you would be grabbing her hair, spanking her ass and shoving your c0ck down her throat til she gags. You are on the opposite end of the spectrum bro.

8) That text you are contemplating sending is lamer than the butt hurt text. Just stop. Forget about her and stop making the same mistakes over and over again. When are you planning on actually learning from your mistakes instead of constantly making the same ones? You and Pyros are in the same boat. Same issues over and over and over.
 

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She originally offersd fri or sat i originally offered tues or weds she counter offered with fri or sat so i chose friday.

She sounded excited when i finished the original convo so i was taken a back a bit. I only make dates 2-3 days in advance max but she offered fri sat.. what would you have done? You woulda accepted too. I agree too many things can happen in that time frame. Would you have declined fri amd sat when she countered offered? Just because itvwas too many days in advance.

Ok i think it's 6) she wants to keep me in her orbit.. i know you say i don't need to tell her off in order to get her to counter offer a time to meet to make it up to me but shes a spoilt model who is used to doing what she wants when she wants and prob think she has done nothing wrong till i ppinted it out.

I reck it's an insincere gesture to make her feel better about herself less guilt as in she realized she wasted my time and didn't even have decency to cancel in advance.

But more likely it's to see if I'll respond.

Ok I'll go ghost.. i still wanna meet her cos we still strangers and shes a hot model that's only reason i am still considering replying because she is better looking than most HBs but if silence is better then I'll do that.

I just felt like i need to point out she needs to do more than apologize at this point.

Is silence really going to get her to make it up to me given she prob has no idea?
 

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You are yo invested in this. There are so many mistakes I don't know where to begin. You shouldn't have told her off. When she countered for sat and then later invited with friends I would have said no ty maybe another time. Call me when you are free. Then wait. You are coming across as a needy p ussy. You should just next her and if she contacts you then fine.
I did decline i said no thanks not interested in meeting your friends only meeting one on one.

I dont really feel im thst invested i literally was surprised with her apology text but you guys have made me realize it's a trick so I'll stay silent and if she contacts me to meet then cool but i dont honestly think she realizes this is what she would need to do at this point..i think sje is that entitled and stupid.
 

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Man I don't even have to read your post to know you're too invested. The fact you wrote out a whole essay about this chicks games.. Just next her and find someone whos actually happy 2 get fvcked by u.. She already knows you like her hence her treatment of you. No way you can win here other than NC..

Don't ever curse a girl out for flaking you.. Damn bro you really need to read the DJ bible I'm cringing at your story. Can you imagine her sh1t eating grin sitting there reading how worked up you got over someone you met on facebook???? I can somewhat relate because we've all been on that boat at one point but you need to work on your inner dude. You shouldn't be trying to meet girls on Facebook period. It looks desperate as hell. Work on yourself, learn that you really are a catch. Read the DJ bible and become a man and take care of your image. Once you do all that women will be drooling over you in public because they sense you're guy with a set of balls not your typical lame ass orbiter like 85% of men.

Think about why you always see assh0les with hot girls. They're part of that 15% who don't gve a fvck about how hot she is. Sure looks play into it, a big part obviously but that only gets you so far. I'm referring to an assh0le with a hot gf and you can tell he has all the power/control in the relationship. He doesn't care how hot she is. All he cares about is her p5ssy. This isn't necessarily a healthy way to look at women either because it's another extreme. You need to balance it and treat them like they're worth. There's different types of men int hat 15% good and bad people, be the good person. And you'll still slam p5ssy without having to degrade your self respect or mental health. She's acting like a b1tch so treat her like a b1tch. She's acting nice, be playful and flirty. Point is there is a frame to maintain as a man and you can't fake that sh1t. women sniff it out quick.

Sh1t like this is what lets these ****s keep playin their games.

Uhhhh....I have no idea what to do with this.

Anytime they ask you what they should wear, a version of "something sexy" is the right response...

But here are my comments:

1) Don't ever arrange dates more than a few days in advance and especially not the first date. Way too much time for someone else to come into the picture.

2) Every woman who flakes/disses/rejects you in these posts you claim is "spoilt". Not for nothing, maybe it's that you have no game.

3) You think by throwing a little temper tantrum like a 5 year old that didn't get their way is going to make her realize what a mistake she made? Please...her low interest got even lower due to you acting butt hurt and showing her you have no options.

4) It might have been an availability check, and if it was you failed.

5) Trust me, you didn't put her in her place. She ditches lame dudes like you all the time once she finds out they are lame. She could care less about you, and you are the one taking time to think and post about her on a forum.

6) She got back to you so she could keep you in orbit and get validation/attention when she needs it.

7) Again, the only thing you did with her is show her you are a butt hurt little boy with no options, far from acting like her daddy. If you acted like "her daddy" you would be grabbing her hair, spanking her ass and shoving your c0ck down her throat til she gags. You are on the opposite end of the spectrum bro.

8) That text you are contemplating sending is lamer than the butt hurt text. Just stop. Forget about her and stop making the same mistakes over and over again. When are you planning on actually learning from your mistakes instead of constantly making the same ones? You and Pyros are in the same boat. Same issues over and over and over.
Basically everything he said ^. next that b1tch and dont act like a senstive beta with the next one.
 
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Let's go through the errors...

She asked me what i wanted her to wear for me.. i know this is where i f'd up had i been more dominant and said something sexual she wouldn't have been flaky.
This is not a make or break question. She was probably wondering what kind of a place you're taking her so she'd know if she should dress appropriately, say casual, dressy, or she should wear something warm, etc. You left her in the dark by telling her "anything".

If she was actually wanting you to pick something, tell her "invite me over so I can go through your wardrobe and choose". If she questions you again, just say something like "a cute dress" or "something without Mickey Mouse print".

Fast forward to that thurs she didn't respond to my confirmation message on whatsapp and only at 5pm on the day she said she was sorry and counter offered for Sat.
Why are you confirming? Confirming shows insecurity. If you gave her a place and time, she should be there. SHE should be the one confirming.

Fast forward to sat and when i tell her where to meet me she tries to get me to meet her at a bar with her gf cos she forgot she had dinner reservations
Welcome to the friend zone. Time to move on.

basically i put her in her place and tell her off for being a spoilt model living in her own world with utter disrespect and disregard for other ppl's time and that if she apoligised after that woulda been a start
You cannot give an ultimatum to a woman you're not fvcking and expect good results. Men who have multiple options don't give ultimatums to women they haven't fvcked. Instead, they move on and fvck someone else.

So now today she messages me this evening saying 'i applogise. I hope you can accept that x'

This is an attention seeking sh1t test right?
I honestly don't know why men are always thinking that the woman is playing a game of chess with them. Women generally don't think that deeply about 5hit like this. She's feeling bad for pissing you off and is just trying to soothe your feelings. You are now getting pity.

As you've indicated, this has been going on for two weeks now. She's not getting any good feelings out of this, so she's not going to look forward to any kind of interaction with you in the near future. Drop her (at least for a few months) and pursue other women.
 

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OP, this girl thinks you're an ant she can step on whenever she wishes and you will still come back for more. She must be cracking up hard...

Your thirst for sex with her is making you behave like a total retard, even if you think you're not.
You want more than apology from her??? what??? lmao...
if you rejected a fatty, would you think she deserves more than an excuse from you??? lmao...

SHE IS NOT INTO YOU.
SHE DOESNT LIKE YOU.
SHE THINKS YOU'RE SH-IT.
SHE JUST WANTS TO SEE HOW MUCH MORE YOU'RE GONNA BEG.
SHE JUST LIKES TO MANIPULATE YOU.

Cease contact inmediately.
 

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Her asking what she wanted her to wear for me was a pure sexual thing i had carte blanche she was testing if i was gona be sexual with her I failed. Nothing at the end of the interaction made me think she wasnt excited to meet. She said she was looking forward to it. But 4 days past sh1t happens in that time.

I'll go silent it's easy for me im not even thinking about her as any possible option. I just wanted to know if this was a test which it appears to be and an attention seeking ploy.

Easy message deleted on whatsapp thread gone. Out of mind out of sight.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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