Business... Is Life... Is Women.... DJ's should be rich...

[Latinoman]

The top prestigious job in the US right now is lawyer. It's ranked higher than even a doctor.

By the way...would you care to share some EVIDENCE of those rankings?

Please, don't tell me your professor said that. As most professors are full of sh_it.

 

[Delta]

latinoman,

i don't say that he is a failure. but consider what it means HERE, in this community, to be a DJ... the ability to attract women... all kinds of women.

bill gates, is not, by ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION a DJ.

he is an AFC and further, a GEEK and a NERD, who became the richest man in the world.

and somehow, those in the dj community just cannot admit that such a thing is possible.

even to the point where anyone who is successful is by DEFINITION a DJ.... hahahahaha....

delta

 

[Delta]

i'm glad academia backs up my natural skepticism wyldfire....

the stuff that goes around especially in self help forums like this about being able to do anything and achieve any kind of success you can imagine and that the only limitation is yourself... these are useful lies but lies nonetheless. but i do grant that sometimes in this regard, the lie can be more useful than the truth. darn my skepticism.

and also, another good point - it is extremely difficult to become rich when young but almost everyone can become wealthy with age. compounding interest and cost dollar averaging are miraculous little tricks of our financial system. did you read "the wealthy barber" too?

delta

 

[LAWYER]

bill gates can get almost any woman he wants money can buy thats about 90 percent of the woman out there... he got the money... damn it that accounts a lot.. a dj doesnt have to be good with anything he just has to be happy... in a sense that he can get anything he wants... with that much much... he can put this site out of existence if he wants too and buy every "DJ" in here to work for him...

 

[Mandiblard]

oh please please please....

bill gates is AFC. napoleon was AFC. there are all kinds of UBER SUCCESSFUL MALES in the history of the world who not only were not DJ but not ALPHA!

as i've said elsewhere, ULTRA COMPETENCE or even EXPERTISE in a given area CAN MAKE YOU RICH. but such skill says nearly nothing about how you rate on the AFC - DJ scale.

most people here just have a ridiculous difficulty in saying that bill gates is AFC simply because they equate success with alpha and djness....

but the nerds in math and chess club in high school, these guys end up doing spectacularly well in certain fields.

bill gates IS afc ... ********

delta

Do you honestly think Bill Gates is frustrated? If so you need to wake up.

 

[DJF or John]

I always thought that Delta had the "experience," yet for some reason his "advice" isn't quite right lol.

Delta,

"the stuff that goes around especially in self help forums like this about being able to do anything and achieve any kind of success you can imagine and that the only limitation is yourself... these are useful lies but lies nonetheless."

I made a post in the Tips section called, "Here's the Magic Pill," but actually, is there really a Magic Pill to success? No, only discovery, and discovery isn't creating someting new but rather finding out about something you didn't previously know about.

Delta there will be no single book that will teach a guy how to make 6 figures in the stock market, in Real Estate, in outside sales...but by reading all of those and puttinig it together, combined with your wisdom and experience and GUT..you can lead to a UNIQUE, plan tailored for YOU and YOUR success.

You CAN have any type of success you IMAGINE. Just like you can have any type of FAILURE you imagine. Success is a result of having the right WISDOM and having the internal DRIVE, if you have the wrong WISDOM but the right internal DRIVE, you will achieve SOME success. If you have the right WISDOM but no internal DRIVE, you will achieve SOME success. Put both together and you got success, now all you need to do is learn about the Tax Code to keep majority of your hard earned dollars.

Delta continue...

"It is extremely difficult to become rich when young but almost everyone can become wealthy with age."

Again wrong. Success is not tied to age, it's tied to wisdom. I can be a wisdom-filled 18 year old, making all or ENOUGH right decisions to equal success. Or I can be a non-wisdom-filled 50 year old and make all or ENOUGH wrong decisions and have no success. In business, when you are a self-starter in business for yourself, age is nothing but a number. Focus on WISDOM-obtainment.

 

[DJF or John]

Continue Delta, boy, I bet you work for $5.50 an hour don't you?

"bill gates is AFC. napoleon was AFC. there are all kinds of UBER SUCCESSFUL MALES in the history of the world who not only were not DJ but not ALPHA!"

Bill Gates is AFC, lol, okay. He TOOK A CHANCE and followed his GUT, and created the biggest business in the world. People told him he wouldn't succeed, people tried holding him back, but he told them to "svck it" and kept on doing HIS THING. If that's not leadership, being a MAN, and following your inner Don Juan-ness, I don't know what is.

You are too tied up on an OUTTER APPEARANCE. Why, because Gates doesn't look like Justin Timberlake that makes him an AFC? And because he has money, does that MEAN that he's using IT to get pvssy? Hahahah, wake up buddy. You don't know Gates, so until you do, don't make assumptions like that.

Wrap this crap up Delta, I'm sick of your whining...

"as i've said elsewhere, ULTRA COMPETENCE or even EXPERTISE in a given area CAN MAKE YOU RICH. but such skill says nearly nothing about how you rate on the AFC - DJ scale..........but the nerds in math and chess club in high school, these guys end up doing spectacularly well in certain fields.....bill gates IS afc ... ********"

Lol, what an idiot this Delta is? The "nerds" in math and chess club end up doing well in areas that make you rich? Are you fvckign serious?
Majority of the Millionares in this country HAVE NO COLLEGE DEGREE. Majority of the Millionares in this country WERE NOT NERDS. Some even have no fvcking High School education.

Getting rich is not taught in school or college, in school and college they teach you skills that help you land a job working for someone else! Don't get me wrong, years in the area and the right salary, and you can become rich over time if you handle your taxes right....but most people working for other people are not RICH.

They go to college and obtain all these degrees, to go work for the guy that doesn't have an High School eductation, but ummm hahaha, he has a Multi-Million Dollar Business.

Why? Because he understands BUSINESS, FINANCE, AND ECONOMICS.

 

[lookyoung]

For all the guys that say money doesn't matter. Bill gates is everything because of his money. He can have any girl in the world because of money. Sad but true. Let me ask you somthing if bill gates lost all his fortune what would he do??? He would die. Do you think if bill gates was making 50,000 a year do you think he could outgame us?? Fvck no. I would bury his azz, I would trump him as bad as a MLB team trumps a little league team.

In reality bill gates is an afc that is worth billions of dollars. And yes latino man he could shut down every DJ site if could. That is power.

But I will leave sosuave with this quote from ozzie guillen the White sox manager.


I have no education but if you put me on stage to talk to a bunch of harvard graduates, I know exactly what to say and how to say it..

You put bill gates in the streets of venezuela and he won't know what to do. He will sh1it on himself.. He will die...

Being a DJ is being able to adapt to any situation. Its about being strong physically, spiritually, and mentally. God forbid if I had to go to prison for 5 years I know i could handle myself, noone would fvck with me. Because I carry myself in a confident manner. I can't say the same thing about bill gates.

Peace and I am out.

 

[Delta]

oh djf. to be brief, you are an idiot. i wish you well.

delta

 

[DJF or John]

You guys go from one extreme to the other.

The God of Getting Rejected believes LOOKS are everything.

Now you guys believe that MONEY is everything.

I mean seriously, what have you learned from this site, life in general, and just overall observation?

Lol, and for the guys that keep saying they could "trump" Bill Gates, again, you don't know Bill Gates. You know nothing about him. You don't know if he's a "Don Juan" or not, and just waht the fvck is a Don Juan? Yeah that's what I thought.

You guys believe in too many theories. The ONLY theory there IS, was, and ever will be, is to not be afraid of being a Natural fvcking man. Yeah that's right, NATURAL. Stop being afraid of your horniness. It's Natural. Now GROW UP, what I mean is learn how to control and channel your horniness, that gets you laid. Now, what gets you a LTR? Well LTRs depend on life directions, if you are going to the top and she wants to sit around eating Bons bons all day, a LTR aint' happening. But a one night stand or maybe a week long stand, yeah.

Guys, stop with all the theories. At the end of the day, you already have everythign you need to get any girl you want, and that's called your natural masculinity, which is why you get horny in the first place. Horniness is power, God-given power. Use it.

 

[DJF or John]

Delta I'm not really trying to be a jerk, I feel sorry for you dude. When I get to your age, shyt, dude I would have long retired.

I mean, look at your signature quotes, wtf?

"i'm not normally a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me superman!"

Why do you need superman to save you? This victim mentality isn't good buddy.

"women are the enemy - why do you think we fvck them?!"

Women are the enemy? Actually, women are some of the greatest creatures ever put on this Earth. Maybe if you actually had the chance to spend some time with them (which he doesn't), you would see this, lol.

Dude seriously, what's your life story? How the hell did you get to be a 33 year old guy, on a Discussion forum discussing dating, but YOU obviously have nothing but a total bitter viewpoint? Dude, what happened to you in life?

 

[lookyoung]

DJF- I disagree with 97% of the stuff you say. There is more in getting girls than your so called sexual state. There are many other factors. There are other components.

You theory states that a guy that weighs 375 pounds and looks clean, if he has sexual state will have no problems getting girls. Your wrong dead wrong. I am really starting to wonder if your has experienced with woman as you say you are??

First you say you are banging 13 girls at once. Then you make another comment saying you have banged 23 girls in 45 days, but are depressed because of it. Then you say you over see 5000 businesses. A guy that is that experienced with woman does not talk the way you do. Be an honest poster and you might get more respect.

DJF I am sorry but I smell bs. Grow up and be honest when posting. What do you have to gain by lying to a bunch of guys. Who cares WTF we think about you.

 

[DJF or John]

Hey dude first off, you need to watch your tone. You are a 30 year old man, that has the wisdom of an 18 year old, so you need to chill the fvck out and calm the fvck down.

"DJF- I disagree with 97% of the stuff you say."

I know you do, it flies right over your head. What you seem to not understand is the shyt I said I didn't create, I'm doing nothing but explaining the real life dating situation, that we experience.

"There is more in getting girls than your so called sexual state. There are many other factors. There are other components."

WRONG. See this is what the fvck I'm talking about, you are 30 years old but with wisdom of an 18 year old. There has been and will only be one thing that matters to women, and that's being a MAN. What is a MAN? It's not what the media tells you. The media tells you that you have to do this or do that to be a MAN, WRONG. A man is a man, period. When you get horny over a chick, that is a prime example and proof that you are a MAN. The problem is that guys listen to the bullshyt that the media tells them, they surpress their horniness, and at that time they've lost their man hood. Embrace your horniness, control your horniness, and you wont' have no more problems with women. And hey, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE ME. If I decide to not believe in the Police, and run out and shoot people in open day light, I'll believe in the police EVENTUALLY when they run up and hand cuff my azz.

Continue.. "buddy"...

"You theory states that a guy that weighs 375 pounds and looks clean, if he has sexual state will have no problems getting girls. Your wrong dead wrong. I am really starting to wonder if your has experienced with woman as you say you are??"

Yeah see that's your problem again, right there. You'll wake up one day and get it, maybe that will be when you're what...40? You should have got this shyt before you turned 25. Anybody in the field hitting and missing and meeting girls on a constant basis, knows this shyt. It's the guys who don't take many shots that spend all their time at the net analzying how to get the ball in. Bytch take the shot, so you miss the first time, eventually you'll understand how to get the ball in the hoop.

Come on with it lookyoung...

"First you say you are banging 13 girls at once. Then you make another comment saying you have banged 23 girls in 45 days, but are depressed because of it."

Again, I said I was depressed because the shyt was too easy. You got a problem with that?

Wrap this up...

"Then you say you over see 5000 businesses. A guy that is that experienced with woman does not talk the way you do. Be an honest poster and you might get more respect."

5000 businesses? Dude, get the hell outta here. What else you gotta say, what are you having a mid life crisis? Lol.

"DJF I am sorry but I smell bs. Grow up and be honest when posting. What do you have to gain by lying to a bunch of guys. Who cares WTF we think about you."

Exactly, who does? I don't give a fvck what anybody thinks of me. I post shyt because other guys posted shyt that helped me, so I post what I want to say. 30 guys have a discussion with me, 50 guys say I'm a piece of shyt, overall, does it matter? This is cyber space motafvcka.

And what you smell isn't "b.s." you smell your "balls busting." You and your buddy Delta and whoever else, are so hung tight on your "theories" that when someone comes along and shows how false and shallow they are, you throw a hissy fit, just like the God of Getting Rejected.

I know NO theories. I have NO theories. The only advice I've ever said was to just to not be afraid of your horniness, and learn how to control and channel it through your voice, eyes, walk, talk...Gunwitch called that sexual state, I just call it being a natural fvcking man.

Period. When it comes to the "women" area, that's all there is to it. But of course, occurring to look young and Delta, there HASSSS to be much more to it then that.

 

[lookyoung]

Listen DJF you can't fool me. I was in the game when you were in diapers. Like I said before talk is cheap. I am willing to walk the walk. When I called you out to come down to CHI-town for a trumpin you very wisely backed down. SEXUAL STATE IS NOT ALL THERE IS TO IT. Get it through your head. If you keep thinking like this you are not going to be successful with woman.

Listen you won't be talking about sexual state when you pop some more girls and turn 25. Listen DJF play the field, get your feet wet. Get into the game pop a few girls. Get into the double digits before you start acting like you know something you never experienced.

I think your ok. I just think you have alot of insecurities. You don't need to impress us with BS stats.

The first thing that a DJ should always do is be himself.


DJF be yourself.

 

[00Kevin]

DJ's should be Richs... Successful...:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: do you guys have any idea, whats a good business in Upstate NY... I want to start my own......:kick:

yes.. if you want to make millions write a book about how you were abducted by a UFO and taken to a planet full of hot sexy women. On this planet you were a god and global warming was caused by "burning rubber" .

Then go on all the crazy talk shows and talk about it.

 

[DJF or John]

LookYoung, look, all this "be yourself" stuff, is exactly what I've been telling other guys. I am being myself, it's you that seem to be the manufactured one. I speak from my soul, not from a theory. But anyway...re-state what you just said...

"Fine! Listen DJF you can't fool me. I was in the game when you were in diapers."

Yeah but LookYoung as I said before, you talk like you are in High School. Your "advice" shows NO growth, NO evolution, NO spiritual background, no nothing. It's the simple, basic, advice that you hear all the time. The problem is that too many guys speak from the external not the internal. The real world is on the inside, not the outside. And you being older then me means NOTHING in this aspect. This is like commissioned sales, I can be a rookie and come in here outsale guys that's been in the field for 10 years! It's not how old you are, it's how THICK the wisdom is on the INSIDE OF YOU. There's some rich azz 21 year olds, and some poor azz 50 year olds...it's not about the age the man carries, it's about the wisdom the man carries.

"Well, like I said before talk is cheap. I am willing to walk the walk. When I called you out to come down to CHI-town for a trumpin you very wisely backed down."

You are "willing" to walk the walk. I walk the walk all the time. I started my own damn business with no money, no experience, no nothing. I've moved up to be the one of the top Sales guys in all 3 of my ALL COMMISSION sales positions, yes, there's no salary.

I didn't get ANY pvssy in High School, NONE. You don't know shyt about rejection, I am the fvcking KING of rejection dude, you don't know who the hell you are talking to. I LOVE women, and my role model Donald Trump said, that you have success by, "Doing something you love, and doing it well." I LOVE women, that's why I learned how to obtain them. I LOVE women, that's why even though I was getting rejected at first, I stayed in there until I understood all this shyt. I wasn't born with game, I wasn't born with shyt. I had to work hard to succeed in business and booty....so please dude, watch your mouth before you go spitting out USELESS BULLSHYT.

However, I'm in Detroit, I'm coming to Chicago in the middle of March, I can meet you in about 2 weeks. How about that? I'll introduce you to my crew, I'll meet your crew, and umm lol, we'll see who gets "trumped."

Continue....

"SEXUAL STATE IS NOT ALL THERE IS TO IT. Get it through your head. If you keep thinking like this you are not going to be successful with woman."

Too late, I already am. Take 10 years of getting your azz kicked by women in school, being embarassed by them, and getting your azz kicked by their boyfriends. Trust me boy, I paid my dues.

"DJF play the field, get your feet wet. Get into the game pop a few girls. Get into the double digits before you start acting like you know something you never experienced."

Again, "assumptions" are just your OWN opinions. I could write a fvcking book on the shyt I've been through to get to where I am right now. All of this shyt didn't just drop out the sky. I worked my azz off in business and meeting women, so wtf are you talking about?

Like I said, I've read your posts, you information is useless and very Elementary. You keep saying Sexual state isn't all there is, well I am assuming that everyone already knows to wash their azz and dress nicely. Okay, we come here to get the extra push, to go to the next level, well, here I'm helping you.

But LookYoung, flames are flames and they go up in smoke. They dont' accomplish anything, so stop blowing smoke.

Do this instead, you say you are 10 years older and you have a great deal of experience? Well I'll tell you what, I'm willing to learn from your experiences.

I'm willing to listen to your "input." I'm about to give you a scenerio. Reply and tell me what's wrong with the guy in this scenerio. We'll have a discussion about what you said, and what I would say, and then we'll sit back and wait to meet each other in about 2 weeks. How about that? I gotta come to Chicago anyway, so yeah, you wanna meet up, come on board.

Here's the scenerio LookYoung, what would you say to me if this were me:

I'm an AFC, I don't know shyt about girls, okay? I have this particular girl I keep thinking about, yet she doesn't call me back. I see girls that I think is attractive, yet, I won't say anything to them. I go on dates, most of them flake, but when I go on dates, I usually pay for everything and I only get as far as a KISS.

No more flames, only mature discussion....on your mark, get set, get ready....

GO!

 

[lookyoung]

DJF your a mans man. Now see that is what I am talking about. Good for you, you want to come down to Chicago I am ready. I am going to Dallas from march 15-and will be back on march 18. I am on vaction from work on the 13,14,19,20,21. So I have all the time in the world on those days.

Listen DJF I don't like being a bad guy or being a flamer. You sound like a good kid. A few things before I give my advice on the scenario. DJF money is not everything and pvssy is not everything. I learned that the hard way. You say my information is useless, I am really not here to give great information. I am not gunwitch, or pook or any of those guys. I could fvck 10,000 girls and I would not give information like those guys.

Just because a guy gives good advice it doesn't mean that he is the best seducer of woman. Do you think Gunwitch who may be the all time great at sosuave at giving advice has seduced more girls than any guy in the world. Do you think guys like mystery, and style fvcked more girls than anyone in the world. FVCK NO.

Listen the best players in the world are naturals. They don't need sosuave. DJF when I was your age I believe your 22 and I am 30 now I would have never thought of this fvcking website. I had the best crew. I had woman all around me. I was clubbing 5 fvcking days a week. I would laugh at this website, I was a fvcking natural. 90% of the people on this website were at one point or another afc, thats why they are here.

My advice shows no growth, I have earned my stripes in this game. I had my share of woman, and I know the ins and the outs.


Ok now for the scenario---

I am an afc and don't know sh1t about girls.- Listen everything is built on confidence and experience. The first thing an afc like this must do is. Set goals, do well in school, learn a martial art, work out, things like this will give you that inner confidence. Go talk to girls. I don't care if you talk to 100 girls and get refected by everysingle one of them. On girl will take the bait. If you can't game a hot girl than bang a girl that is subpar. You have to crawl before you can walk. Bang a fat girl, an ugly girl, pyssy is pvssy. Build yourself up and you will be banging hot chicks in no time.
The remedy is to get out there on the field. Forget about sosuave. Nothing beats experience.

I have a particular girl that I am thinking about yet she doesn't call me back.. If a girl does not call you back than the only advice I can give you is to stop calling her. If you keep calling her you will come off as creepy. This is my mentality with girls that don't call back. Remember guys always remember that you are the prize. If she doesn't call back than it is her loss.

I see girls that are attractive yet I won't say nothing to them- Remember you are the prize. Don't put pressure on yourself to get a number or a fvck close. Just develop some rapport make them smile, get used to talking. The more you talk the more confident you will become. You will in no time succeed with woman.

When I go out on dates I pay for everything yet get only as far as a kiss.. I know this site says don't pay for dates. Me personally I always pay. I just think it is the classy thing to do. I don't care if I go out on a date with a girl and she was ugly, I would still pay, thats me. There is nothing wrong with going on a date and only getting a kiss. But it depends what your looking for. WHen I was 22 I was all about the fvck closes. So if I was struggling with fvck closes and only getting kisses then I would say SEXUAL STATE COMES INTO PLAY. If your like me who at this point in the game its not all about fvcking. It is about having a good time.

I have 1 fvck buddy and there are three other girls right now that I have gone out on dates the last 10 days.

Girl A calls me at 4 in the morning I am sleeping. I call her the next day and ask if everything is ok. She says yeah but says she just wanted me. THAT IS A FVCK CLOSE WAITING TO HAPPEN.

GIRL B- 22 year old leaves me a text saying hey hotness I can't wait to see you again, I have a great time with you, and we need to spend a night together pronto> THAT IS A FVCK CLOSE WAITING TO HAPPEN.

Girl C- I am not crazy about this girl but she is the biggest sweetheart. I didn't even attempt a kiss. She texts me the next day saying I am sorry I am so reserved I really like you. LOL I didn't even try anything on this girl and she is telling me she is reserved. **** CLOSE WAITING TO HAPPEN.

I can be passive with woman at times. This doesn't make me an afc now if I wanted to fvck them and couldn't than that is AFC.

I will probably end up fvcking 2 out of 3 of these brauds because they are going to seduce me. LOL

AND YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY. I have 2 things going for me.

1. Confidence- that comes from my achievements.

2. Knowing I am the prize- That comes with confidence.

If you have these 2 things woman will flock to you like flies on sh1t.

Your turn. Maybe we should have leeman67 join us he is also from chicago. He could learn a thing or two. LOL

 

[Rata Blanca]

oh please please please....

bill gates is AFC. napoleon was AFC. there are all kinds of UBER SUCCESSFUL MALES in the history of the world who not only were not DJ but not ALPHA!

Napoléon Bonaparte (born Napoleone di Buonaparte) (15 August 1769 – 5 May 1821) was a general during the French Revolution, the ruler of France as First Consul (Premier Consul) of the French Republic from 11 November 1799 to 18 May 1804, Emperor of the French (Empereur des Français) under the name Napoléon I (Napoléon 1er) from 18 May 1804 to 6 April 1814, and was briefly restored as Emperor from 20 March to 22 June 1815. He was also King of Italy, Mediator of the Swiss Confederation and Protector of the Confederation of the Rhine.

In social animals, the alpha male or alpha female is the individual in the community whom the others follow and defer to.

The status of the alpha is generally achieved by means of superior physical prowess. However, in certain highly social species such as the bonobo, a contender can use more indirect methods, such as political alliances, to oust the ruling alpha and take his/her place.

In humans, the alpha male often refers to a man who is powerful or high on the social ladder, similar to hegemonic masculinity. In Western cultures, the term is sometimes pejorative and describes a man who is overly masculine and should be feared.

Seems to me that Napoleon was pretty alpha at France and Italy

 

[Delta]

ok fine... but then does alpha mean DJ?

also, this is not exactly the way this term is bandied about around these parts. alpha around here is mostly a collection of masculine attributes.

my argument here is that an AFC (a guy who knows nothing about women or being "masculine" or even SEXUALLY RELEVANT) can be the guy who has fabulous success in other areas of life.

heck, george lucas, martin scorsese, spielberg.... all of these guys are NERDS. nerds that made it.

and i'm saying that this happens all the time. not based on spectacular confidence or charisma or whatever... but based on EXPERTISE. which is not taken into account as a "measure of a man" around here. technical mastery, intellectual brilliance - these things can exist apart from anything considered "alpha" and these things can bring a person success even greatness.

that success in this world does not strictly go to butch djs.

delta

 

[vonbock]

Napolean

Well, I think Napolean was a great leader at times but he was AFC. Did you know Jospehine was screwing around behind his back while he was out conquering countries? She would make fun of him with her friends while he way away. Just because you are the most powerful person in the world, doesn't mean you are alpha male.