Bull****! and I will tell you why.

[Gladiator80]

I've read through most of those articles and I have to say while they were very interesting reads, will not work with most people and I will tell you why. Most of those articles talk about the guy getting the upper hand and making the girl chase after him. Girls will never be interested in a guy unless they find him physically good looking, if they do not find him good looking, then you better have a million dollars cause you ain't gonna get ****, I've seen it a thousand times, guys with great personalities but not so good looking, losing out to pretty boys, happens all the time. If the guy is not handsome then you're **** outta luck, cause most probably you'll end up settling.

 

[frivolousz21]

http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...00424&imageID=21924684&Mytoken=20050306143851

there is a link to me..what would u say I am about a 6 or 7???

I can pull....girls all the way to 10! if u live in the st louis area...come out with me sometime and I will show it to you.

oh yea and Iam 5 foor 6 and half!


you DONT HAVE TO BE A SO CALLED PRETTY BOY TO PULL THE LADIES

 

[Gladiator80]

Picture doesn't work my friend, gives me that x in the frame. Anyways, guess the reason I posted this is that It does kinda have to do with me. I'm an ok looking guy, with a great personality, smart and lots of ambition for the future. I'm currently 24 and in my final year at University. Anyways, there's this girl that I have been so interested in for a while, I get along great with her, but no matter what I can't seem to get close to her. Now there's this really good looking guy in my class, I mean this guy could be a model if he wanted, anyways this guy is married and he's even got kids and this girl just seems to respond better to him then she does with me, which is kinda frustrating. The thing is that I truly believe no matter what, the better looking guy will win in the end.

 

[Swede54]

Originally posted by Gladiator80
Picture doesn't work my friend, gives me that x in the frame. Anyways, guess the reason I posted this is that It does kinda have to do with me. I'm an ok looking guy, with a great personality, smart and lots of ambition for the future. I'm currently 24 and in my final year at University. Anyways, there's this girl that I have been so interested in for a while, I get along great with her, but no matter what I can't seem to get close to her. Now there's this really good looking guy in my class, I mean this guy could be a model if he wanted, anyways this guy is married and he's even got kids and this girl just seems to respond better to him then she does with me, which is kinda frustrating. The thing is that I truly believe no matter what, the better looking guy will win in the end.

Not true, you Might have hte better personality. But does that mean your personality is attractive? If you have a incredibly attractive personality, it will make the difference. Read the DJ bible

 

[Don_Joffe]

Thats why its great to be GOOD LOOKING and have GAME.
frivolouz forget your height, i know models that are 5 foot 7. Your height isnt the problem, its YOU. you arent 6 or 7. You are 4. Why?
Hair?
Face?
Side Burns?
Looks?
Dude, looks like you got a good build that scoring you points.
But you sound like one of those average looking guys that ends up with babes, keep it up.

 

[frivolousz21]

thanks...I know im not ugly, I am an above average looking guy who believes he has a chance to get with any girl he see's.

sometimes that chance is 100 percent somtimes it is 1 percent.

but my attitude and confidence play a larger role than my looks.

until you achieve this ideal or state of mind..you will not understand.
but dont give up trying to get there!

you have to do the best you can with what you have

 

[Kaine]

Not true, you Might have hte better personality. But does that mean your personality is attractive?

Absolutely, just because you think you are the sh#t doesn't mean other people do.

Sounds like this poster is just ranting because he is a "tad" bitter about this 'one' girl.

Nice


Kaine

 

[quest]

gladiator80..

u clearly want the girl in ur class..
the "model" is married, he clearly doesnt..

u talk to her, wanting to **** her resulting in - nervousness, without game, but show her your "great" personality, which i assume is doormat/nice guy.
and he talks to her, not wanting to **** her resulting in - no nerves, with his real personality that he'd have with his friends (who he also doesn't want to ****) and she would feel as though he's a nice guy not trying to get in her pants.

where u clearly are, u are a bumbling idiot who will do anything for her.

 

[seize_the_pattern]

Eventhough these articles are a nice supplement to the material ive been researching, and even a few of them cover the load VERY WELL, there's still ****loads of good material out there that makes the shift in thinking thats needed happen.

Out of your frustration you bring to the table here, I can tell you got frustrated out of a real life situation, found out about this site somehow, and wanted a quick fix. Oh man have I been guilty of doing this and thinking like this myself.

If you really want to know what this is about, go out and research

None of the knowledge presented here will be approved by 98% of the people that walk this earth, just because it is counter intuitive as hell.
Sooner or later you are gonna have to decide if you really want to get into this.
If you go check this stuff out now and then without any clear purpose, you wont figure it out and remain frustrated

 

[n00bPimp]

Girls are very attracted to married men because they'r such a challenge. Even if you were a 9 or 10 that guy would still have the upper hand because she can be so easily replaced and she knows this. Another thing is you're most likely giving her too much attention.

 

[ScrewIt]

There are clearly many other factors at work here, and you arent considering all of them.

I've heard it time and time again, people *****ing about not having looks equate to no pvssy....if you have a problem blame it elsewhere, it's always how it is... with damn ppl who cant get their oneitis girl. Consider looking at your actions.

It's also been repeated time and time again, that guys with gf's or married are often immediately found attractive by women. A simple fact that they want what they know they cannot attain.
many people including me can confirm from experience.

 

[ketostix]

I agree somewhat with the original poster that it is mostly about appearances in regard to success with women and attracting them. Many say it's all about confidence and technique (personality) but if a woman finds a guy attractive she'll chase him and make it easy usually. He doesn't even need game and technique. A really attractive guy will naturally have confidence from experiencing so much success, success is the best confidence booster.

Women are intrinsically dishonest about all of this. They say personality is what they consider but that doesn't mean they look for noble or endearing personality traits, they just want a smooth presentation from any good confidence man, sincerity can even backfire.

If you're not attractive women are very difficult. I really think it's all about appearances, even when you're talking about confidence; as long as one appears confident it doesn't matter how insecure they might actually be in their mind.

Having said all that, if women aren't responding you got to keep working on improving your success and conveying personality to counterbalance the lack of physical attractiveness.

The original posters problem might partly have been he wasn't being a challenge, girls like games like that.

 

[skeeloo]

women dont only go for looks okay, today i saw this slim geek looking fella with this hb9 hugging and kissing, they walked a few feet and this kid hard a bmw nice and neat ( he was about 19 )( he had money from the looks of it). so stop talking like that. if you aint that good looking better work hard, because money is attractive, althought i admit i caught he's girl givin me the eye. still avearge looking guys are getting laid yes some of them use thier own strategie like pretending to have money but if it works for you then do it. besides some girls cant really handle realmen. yes thier are also girls that cant handle attractive men, they say they want them but are dumbfounded in thier presense. so i dont see any reason why a dude who is a 5 cant get a chick.

 

[check_mate_kid_uk]

Originally posted by frivolousz21
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...00424&imageID=21924684&Mytoken=20050306143851

there is a link to me..what would u say I am about a 6 or 7???

only 6 or 7? nah man your a hottie! *wink*

anyway back to the original poster, every one will agree looks do help and theres no doubt about that, no one can argue that. The part you are failing to see is that as long as you look average, you can get really hot women easily because of confidence.

heres an analgy for you, if you have a base ball bat you can kill some one easily, that base ball bat symbolies how you look, if you have a knife you can also kill some one, that knife symoblises your confidence and other non look realted aspects. So with out the bat and knife oyu may have a hard time killing some one but its not imposible, it depends on how strong that person is, that stregnth symbolises how hot the women is. Well if you have the baseball bat abd knife you could kill some one mcuh strong very easily. If oyu had just the bat or just the knife you could also kill a much stronger person very easily.

 

[Trance]

Physical things not that atractive:
I'm not tall, i'm 1'75.
I dont have a nice tan.

But girls like me because:

- I'm good looking
- I'm a smart talker
- I have deep looking blue eyes
- Nice ass
- I dress great
- Very outgoing
- I look them in the eyes, and smile in a provocative way
- I dance well
- I talk in a firm, slow, seductive way
- I am misterious