Building Attraction . . . a gaping hole in the Mystery Method???

[wayword]

Exactly!!!! Looks are a great door opener for men and women. BUT you are an ass male or female OR have the personality of a wet blanket, your looks will not get you anything in the long run. Just a shallow person willing to overlook personality flaws for arm candy!

Yup, it's no different than selling a car.

A = curb appeal
C = sales spiel/test drive
S = sold!

After you've gotten a girl's interest, you have to maintain and increase it by DHVing and showing her just why you're worth buying (fvcking). If not, she's not going to just take you home based on your curb appeal alone.

My sticking point is that I'm not a natural braggart, or a storyteller. Hence, I often stall out in C. But, I realize now that I DO need to learn to start telling DHV stories to get past the next level.

 

[ricorico]

This is an article which says looks matter at work. But judging from responses many people refuse to believa that and think performance is more important than looking obese or being overweight. It's easy to figure out the angry folks who do not want to blieve this are fat or ugly. LOL!!!

http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/careerist/48564

 

[Dongfu]

Attraction has to be there initially. If it is, you need only not destroy it with stupid behavior. You cant create it out of smoke, unless you are some kind of seduction master who has ruthless long term game.

This may be hard for some to accept, esp. if they must rely on running game due to a lack of natural charm.

 

[Mad Manic]

Well if you "created" attraction with words and you stop being the witty MF she very well could revert backto her not attracted state.

But what I'm saying is, I don't disagree that you can amplify(or destroy) attraction with your words and attitude. What I'm saying is the actual creation of attraction, the one that isn't a choice, is mostly visual and appearance. It happens fast and isn't created with word choice. You can't C+F attraction into creation. Girls aren't salivating and following a guy around like in rico's example because, "Wow girls, he's so ****y and funny!"

C+F can, and every other game tactic can, fail more than it succeeds even backfire. But this visual attraction won't fail and is basically universal.

This good looking guy doesn't really need game he just neeeds to be outgoing, friendly and just interesting in general and confident. The girls are gaming him. He could just say "let's do this or that" and he'll get compliance.

I think I spoke about this another post. In general it's about amplifying or destroying attraction, but I think you can create attraction from near zero too, though I don't doubt it's unlikely/very hard. If the guy repulses the girl then yes, probably no chance. But zero attraction to me means "Naah, I don't find him attractive tbh / not really my type, sorry ". From this, IMO someone with great game can get her attracted using his personality/ body language, etc. etc.

As for good looking guys getting lots of attention, well there's obviously big regional differences and whatnot. Where I am, every guy has to fight for getting a girl, it ain't easy. I'm not saying they get zero attention but they still need good game. That's how it is with the HB7+ 18-21 year olds.

 

[STR8UP]

A woman sizes up your potential within a few seconds or minutes of meeting you. Sometimes there can be full blown attraction, but you aren't going to have earth shattering chemistry from the first minute with most women.

But it's all about the first impression. This cannot be stressed enough. If you display the right traits you CAN have a woman going gaga over you within seconds or minutes.

Like in the movie The 40 Year Old Virgin, where he's in the bookstore picking up the sales clerk. "Do you, DO IT YOURSELF?"

Of course this isn't a typical situation and it IS a movie, but it isn't outside of the realm of possibility.

 

[Dongfu]

update

I just recieved info from one of my trusted female advisers that she says that it is very common for women to be in a relationship with a guy that they initially felt nuetral about. Upon getting to know these guys, they discovered other attractive traits that were not apparent at first. I believe her.

 

[#41]

Attraction has to be there initially. If it is, you need only not destroy it with stupid behavior. You cant create it out of smoke, unless you are some kind of seduction master who has ruthless long term game.

It sucks for us uglies, but that really is the truth.

 

[xdreamz]

looking good is not really "attractive" unless it is really handsome. other than that... DHV or building attraction is actually just showing your personality. everybody in here has in them an attractive personality. it is in essence built because people don't just instantly know who you are...they find out more and more about you.

 

[xdreamz]

i've seen underwear models that are really handsome and extremely nice people but they can't get women... they have to resort to paying for some cheesy low class *****s just to go out and party with them again and again.. this is the kind of stuff that makes you think if looks are so important than why are the good looking guys not getting laid. to me, girls are not turned off by looks too much. even me, a guy, can be turned on by an ugly looking girl by the way she moves her body or the clothes she wears, etc.... attraction is important, it is key, and you must learn these things

about mystery method, they used canned openers which fit for the general audience which is why he suggests making them up on your own. generically speaking, some might find them fake but it would serve to be much better than the standard "can i buy you a drink?" line.

 

[Mr Plow]

You say you are attracted to her before she runs "game" on you because of her appearance, this that and the other. Remember that men and women are made differently and that, say, a women will feel attraction due to different factors which you may/may not be such a turn on in a woman.

Take me as living proof I am about a 5ish/10 in looks but have had many girls attracted to me... However it does annoy me how lately these girls seem to be going for the fat ugly AFCs (as in obese/quasimodo-like in looks)... But that's another topic, just bringing it up for continuity, on with this one...

 

[L777]

Just wanted to add another experience to the debate...as I think real life situations hold the most weight in the 'looks' arguement.

House party last night, 2 hot girls, both 8, blond and brunette. Game them for a while, find out they have b/fs....the b/f's come over, 5 and 6 at best. Little to no style, both overweight and tall, both very plain looking. Both with a lot of social proof and character.

Just an observation.

 

[Solomon]

Classics

Dong Fu and Snow plow in one thread?

WOW

 

[Snowman23]

Leave it to solo to come in and say something weird.