Brutal Honesty with Women

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Are any of you ever brutally honest with your women?

Doesn't it seem like almost every man is terrified or women or at least terrified of upsetting a woman? Isn't this absurd?

We all talk like MEN around other men and tell the brutal truth. Just like on this forum. We even insult each other and we are still friends at the end of it. But once a vagina enters the room everyone clams up. Like some royalty or king or someone with a gun just walk in. This is so f*cking stupid to me.

What do you think would happen if you stopped pretending around women and were just REAL all the time?
 

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Are any of you ever brutally honest with your women?

Doesn't it seem like almost every man is terrified or women or at least terrified of upsetting a woman? Isn't this absurd?

We all talk like MEN around other men and tell the brutal truth. Just like on this forum. We even insult each other and we are still friends at the end of it. But once a vagina enters the room everyone clams up. Like some royalty or king or someone with a gun just walk in. This is so f*cking stupid to me.

What do you think would happen if you stopped pretending around women and were just REAL all the time?
Women might not want to be around them. I heard that really handsome guys make women nervous so if he's not super nice to her she will be stressing out or in emotional pain. You definitely will repel most women with the brutal truth. The ones who respect you enough will stick around.
 

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its good to red pill these bitches any chance you get. if you say it right most women will agree because they aren't stupid, they are already redpilled they just choose to live in their little fantasy world
 

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It can work, I used to be BRUTALLY honest, it usually backfired in to a shouting match and the female trying to assault me. Other times the woman would just stare at me like, did he just say that? Her PSSY probably got wet as hell. It depends on the context, do you truly dislike this female, or are you trying to get in to her subconscious aka her panties, you can tell the brutal truth and then wrap it nicely with a slight compliment
 

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What do you think would happen if you stopped pretending around women and were just REAL all the time?
The EXACT same thing that would happen if you were "brutally honest" around men.

Most wouldn't care, a few would like you, and a few would hate you.

Truth isn't really the magic pill it's made out to be.

Especially when all people have their own "truth."

The truth is that most people are TERRIFIED of truth and what most people think of as "truth" is really an opinion they share with their "circle."

The truth is that just like in the Matrix, there is no "pill."

Now if you're talking about real "truth" then try spitting some mathematical or physics game and see how that works...(hey baby lemme check out your wormhole...)
 

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Unproductive behavior. Even if a girl acknowledges the truth--momentarily--a lot of them still have ego investments in some fantasy alpha husband happily-ever-after romcom sh1t--and they will hate you for it if you speak too directly against that & rationalize that you're the problem instead of the truth. Covert communication & all that. Just like brutal honesty would be walking up to a hot girl you've never met and saying, I really want to fvck you. Might be God's honest truth--and it might work a tiny percentage of the time--but it's not solid game & usually won't result in the outcome you want.

Made the mistake of speaking too openly with a buddy & his plate the other night--really, really upset her. Unnecessarily upset her, which caused drama for him--wasn't good for her, wasn't good for him, wasn't good for me. Immediately apologized & smoothed things over but I doubt she'll be setting me up with her friends anytime soon.

That said, you can be pretty honest--so long as you make an effort to couch it in terms they can understand. Girls know the score--but they can't talk about it in male overt language or else they're a slvt. For instance, I'm very upfront with girls about the fact that I won't be exclusive or that I know sometimes a girl just wants a hot roll in the hay with an attractive guy she can't tie down--but I talk about it in a language that doesn't compromise their perceived value. So instead of, 'You know, I'm not going to be exclusive because I want to fvck strange women and I know that we'll eventually lose sexual interest in each other and I don't want to put up with your bullsh1t' it's more like 'I think you're an awesome girl--but I feel like in relationships people put too many expectations on each other and then you lose sight of the individual and you start acting to fulfill expectations instead of connecting from a genuine place. I'd rather be free to fulfill my own needs and then spend time with you because I want to and not just because I need to get one off or whatever.'

Both statements are equally true--but one of them threatens their reality and will generally result in bad reactions and negative outcomes. And the other acknowledges their reality but makes it feel OK to enter mine.
 

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I pick and choose what I am brutally honest about. I don't feel like I am myself when I have to puzzy foot around and be concerned about how my opinion/beliefs might offend some snowflake so I don't worry about it. I keep things real and try and associate with the same types.

Many women have labeled me a dihk for doing so. So be it. They can leave. But they always end up respecting me more because I'm true to myself.

PoonKing was brutally honest yet there were too many snowflakes on here that couldn't take him. If you have to block somebody on here because you don't like what they have to say then you are probably a snowflake too and lack emotional control and put too much stock in what others think/say.
 

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Truth is so refreshing sometime, its just like when you take out your wet shoes after walking in the rain.
 

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Brutal honesty seems to work best when guised in humor. Their hamster stays confused which ups their interest because they can't tell whether you like them or hate them.

The hamster needs to keep spinning because once a woman doesn't find you challenging or mysterious she no longer tingles for you.
 
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they dont like it at all and trust me I've opened a few b1tches up with a can of brutal honest whoop-ass

they go into spoilt brat daddies little princess mode and shut you down completely I.E "how dare you speak to the queen like that "

whats worse is that they don't just shut you down they will convince every female and white knight males in the fvcking room/ club / classroom to shut you down

society forces men to treat every woman like a "lady" even though 90% deserve to be treated like they dogs they are

unfortunaltey its just the way it is , i suspect if the current male/female dating climate continues the way it is

( where women do whatever they want without ever feeling the consequences )

we may finally see men rise together and break this horrendous social climate we find ourselves stuck in
 

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Alan Roger Currie is the king at this. However it is only one major component of how he recommends approaching women.

Brutal honesty must come from a place of smoothness, coolness, authenticity and calmness he says. If it comes from a place of frustration or disdain from women it will repel them.

Some guys will put on an act of brutal honesty, rather than being themselves. They want to as an excuse to express any pent up anger or frustration. Next thing you know they are shouting innapropiate or mean statements for no damn reason. No one wants that guy, even guys don't want to hang out with that guy.
 

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Doesn't it seem like almost every man is terrified or women or at least terrified of upsetting a woman? Isn't this absurd?
Yes it does.

When you consider sex, image, loneliness, lack of available single women with little baggage is at play, no its not absurd.

We all talk like MEN around other men and tell the brutal truth. Just like on this forum. We even insult each other and we are still friends at the end of it. But once a vagina enters the room everyone clams up. Like some royalty or king or someone with a gun just walk in. This is so f*cking stupid to me.
You are right. It's the way society runs.

What do you think would happen if you stopped pretending around women and were just REAL all the time?
Wouldn't work. Women deal with feelings. You could sweet talk any women to sdx with a little game. You can't sweet talk a man to do a bad business deal, unless he is dumb of course. o_O
 

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Alan Roger Currie is the king at this. However it is only one major component of how he recommends approaching women.

Brutal honesty must come from a place of smoothness, coolness, authenticity and calmness he says. If it comes from a place of frustration or disdain from women it will repel them.

Some guys will put on an act of brutal honesty, rather than being themselves. They want to as an excuse to express any pent up anger or frustration. Next thing you know they are shouting innapropiate or mean statements for no damn reason. No one wants that guy, even guys don't want to hang out with that guy.
That's what I figured.
 
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