Broke NC with Stripper

[bigneil]

Well, today I finally decided to send the stripper a text message.

Why?
1) It had been 3 weeks - the maximum amount of time anyone can miss you (according to Matt MacPherson and three of my own studies).
2) She had never told me she didn't want to see me (no, that was certain forum members).
3) I had picked up several equally hot women since (including two last night).
4) Last month we had planned a modeling assignment for her where she would pose in a bikini (the subject of my text).
5) It is the man's job to initiate and to risk rejection. It's sad to see how many forum members dynamically assume women should initiate. According to Louis/Copeland, the BIGGEST MISTAKE MEN MAKE is assuming a woman is not interested when she has NOT CLEARLY SAID SO. Until a woman says "I do not like you" assume she likes you.
6) To generalize based on profession is absurd.

Bottom Line: After an absence of 32,155 minutes, she replied within 1 minute. I then called her and she said "I lost my phone on Spring Break and YOU HAVEN'T CALLED IN THREE WEEKS!" So she was counting the days too. She sounded so upset with me I thought it was over, but I said "are we still talking?" and she said "I hope so!". By speaking on the phone I could clearly read her tone and everything is now fine. I'll be seeing her tomorrow.

Thanks to those who didn't interpret this as "She dumped you - move on".

PS - I could see from her Facebook photos that she changed phones (different color) and Facebook said she switched 2 weeks ago. People need to remember their track record is based on the percentage accuracy of their posts.

 

[SoSuave666]

I respect your posts man, I really do.

In lieu of that...

You gotta move on. She didn't lose her phone. She didn't forget your number. The chicks that were really in to me--the ones that pursued me--knew my number by heart. That is how women work, they are crazy. She is a stripper to boot. you can do way better. If you ever come to the DC area, I'll show you a good time (even though everyone hates on DC)

 

[LearningSlowly]

I respect your posts man, I really do.

In lieu of that...

You gotta move on. She didn't lose her phone. She didn't forget your number. The chicks that were really in to me--the ones that pursued me--knew my number by heart. That is how women work, they are crazy. She is a stripper to boot. you can do way better. If you ever come to the DC area, I'll show you a good time (even though everyone hates on DC)

Oh man, I was about to school you before I turned my Internet Sarcasm Detector on.

Enjoy yourself tomorrow neil, that was a sweet moment for you.

 

[teacha]

Well, today I finally decided to send the stripper a text message.

Why?
1) It had been 3 weeks - the maximum amount of time anyone can miss you.
2) She had never told me she didn't want to see me (no, that was certain forum members).
3) I had picked up several equally hot women since (including two last night).
4) Last month we had planned a modeling assignment for her where she would pose in a bikini with my newly painted car (the subject of my text).
5) It is the man's job to initiate and to risk rejection. It's sad to see how many forum members dynamically assume women should initiate. According to Louis/Copeland, the BIGGEST MISTAKE MEN MAKE is assuming a woman is not interested when she has NOT CLEARLY SAID SO. Until a woman says "I do not like you" assume she likes you.
6) To generalize based on profession is absurd.

Bottom Line: After an absence of 32,155 minutes, she replied within 1 minute. I then called her and she said "I lost my phone on Spring Break and YOU HAVEN'T CALLED IN THREE WEEKS!" So she was counting the days too. She sounded so upset with me I thought it was over, but I said "are we still talking?" and she said "I hope so!". By speaking on the phone I could clearly read her tone and everything is now fine. I'll be seeing her tomorrow.

Thanks to those who didn't interpret this as "She dumped you - move on".

Moral: PS - I could see from her Facebook photos that she changed phones (different color) and Facebook said she switched 2 weeks ago. People need to remember their track record is based on the percentage accuracy of their posts.

Bottomline is that you've missed her. Please be true to yourself, and just admit that you actually do care for this woman, instead of coming up with hilarious reasons as to why you contacted her again.

It had been 3 weeks - the maximum amount of time anyone can miss you.

Seriously? mind= blown.

"It is the man's job to initiate and to risk rejection. It's sad to see how many forum members dynamically assume women should initiate. According to Louis/Copeland, the BIGGEST MISTAKE MEN MAKE is assuming a woman is not interested when she has NOT CLEARLY SAID SO. Until a woman says "I do not like you" assume she likes you."

Actions speaks louder than words....

I had picked up several equally hot women since (including two last night).

So why did you go back then, if you are picking up hot women as you say you are? You must really like this stripper. Well, hopes it works out the way you envisioned it buddy.

 

[Packers2010]

what is with guys and strippers... to me they are the lowest form a women can go. well other then hooker.

 

[AlexDP]

You're jumping up and down because your heart is filled with joy. Why? Three weeks, dude. She didn't care enough to send you one text in three weeks. Are you a troll or something?

You counted the days you missed her and now you're happy she seems to somewhat like you. Please admit to yourself you're in love with a stripper, who does not care about you one bit. This is going to end in disaster. Moron.

 

[bigneil]

Not being satisfied with how much he already discredited himself, AlexDP chimed in with "She doesn't care about you one bit".

Hmm... if she had dumped me as AlexDP went on the record saying, then why would she respond to me within 1 minute of my text? Why would she have counted the days herself? Why would she be upset for my not having texted her? Why would she agree to see me the next day? She lost her phone and her numbers and then wondered why I hadn't written. She could have tracked me down, but what did I have to lose texting her?

While AlexDP was grasping for straws it was Jariel who said it best in my thread "Pre-emptive Breakup":

"... it wouldn't hurt to drop her a quick text now that 2 weeks has gone by. Just ask if she fancies meeting up in the week. If she doesn't accept or shows hesitation, then go back to no contact and move on. I've lost out on too many situations the past year due to being stubborn. I went NC with girls and they went NC with me, both thinking the other had lost interest. I was quite surprised when some of the girls I nexted eventually told me they really liked me and couldn't understand why I started ignoring them. Turned out we were both just trying to protect our egos."

Packers2010 got it in that thread right also (though his dismissing all 1 Million strippers in America is harsh).

 

[AlexDP]

Not being satisfied with how much he already discredited himself, AlexDP chimed in with "She doesn't care about you one bit".

Hmm... if she had dumped me as AlexDP went on the record saying, then why would she respond to me within 1 minute of my text? Why would she have counted the days herself? Why would she be upset for my not having texted her? Why would she agree to see me the next day? She lost her phone and her numbers and then wondered why I hadn't written. She could have tracked me down, but what did I have to lose texting her?

While AlexDP was grasping for straws it was Jariel who said it best in my thread "Pre-emptive Breakup":

"... it wouldn't hurt to drop her a quick text now that 2 weeks has gone by. Just ask if she fancies meeting up in the week. If she doesn't accept or shows hesitation, then go back to no contact and move on. I've lost out on too many situations the past year due to being stubborn. I went NC with girls and they went NC with me, both thinking the other had lost interest. I was quite surprised when some of the girls I nexted eventually told me they really liked me and couldn't understand why I started ignoring them. Turned out we were both just trying to protect our egos."

Packers2010 got it in that thread right also (though his dismissing all 1 Million strippers in America is harsh).

How you can not see what is going on is beyond me. That you're so arrogant about your own ignorance means you deserve all the sorrow you're about to get, mate.

Look at how much time you have spent talking and thinking about her when she didn't contact you. Now try and see how much time she might have spent thinking about you. Now add to that the fact she's a stripper.

Good luck, dude. You'll be crying in two, maybe three, weeks. I'll be here, gloating.

 

[Konada]

5) It is the man's job to initiate and to risk rejection. It's sad to see how many forum members dynamically assume women should initiate. According to Louis/Copeland, the BIGGEST MISTAKE MEN MAKE is assuming a woman is not interested when she has NOT CLEARLY SAID SO. Until a woman says "I do not like you" assume she likes you.

So what if one flakes on a first date, then ignores another idea to suggest a meetup (like 1 week later).

Where does one draw the line between moving on and persistence?

 

[MM92]

How you can not see what is going on is beyond me. That you're so arrogant about your own ignorance means you deserve all the sorrow you're about to get, mate.

Look at how much time you have spent talking and thinking about her when she didn't contact you. Now try and see how much time she might have spent thinking about you. Now add to that the fact she's a stripper.

Good luck, dude. You'll be crying in two, maybe three, weeks. I'll be here, gloating.

I have to say I agree with this guy. I said as soon as I found out she was a stripper it was a bad idea. Why can't some people ever actually see things for what they are?

 

[bigneil]

Again AlexDP fails to see that SHE knew the exact number of days when I called her. She was screaming at me for not texting her for that long. She didn't have my number, but she had a new phone with the same phone number.

How much evidence do I need to sleep with her? Am I supposed to say "No, you didn't prove you love me by mailing me a letter via USPS, so it's over"?? My goal is to have sex with this woman.

I never shed a tear, and why 2-3 weeks? This will be the 7th straight month I saw her. She has not flaked once, was never a minute late and has a 20 mile commute. And this is a gorgeous 20 year old woman. As if her age is not a much more significant factor than the fact she shows her pastie-covered boobies to strangers for money.

For all the guys who say "I'd never date a stripper" - how do you know the hottest girls in the bar aren't secretly strippers? A huge percentage are. And how many of you have actually dated strippers (and VIP doesn't count)?

I love strippers. The other night two of the most gorgeous women I've seen in years both sat on either side of me and offered a three-way French kiss. One gave me her number and said "let's start with lunch." What on Earth could be better than that? Nearly all strippers throw themselves at me, not just one. They want a man, obviously! For all of you complaining women don't want providers - strippers will be the first to admit they do. They also admit they date guys they meet at work. They have orgasms with guys they meet at work.

College girls do the same thing as strippers only for free - they go to parties and fool around with whoever they want. Prostitutes have a pimp and don't get to choose who they sleep with. Big difference.

But if it makes people happy, I also got the barmaid's number that night, with her being the biggest challenge.

 

[AlexDP]

I never shed a tear, and why 2-3 weeks? This will be the 7th straight month I saw her. She has not flaked once, was never a minute late and has a 20 mile commute. And this is a gorgeous 20 year old woman. As if her age is not a much more significant factor than the fact she shows her pastie-covered boobies to strangers for money.

You've been seeing her for 7 months. You didn't contact her for three weeks. You counted the MINUTES you went without contact. Before you go all "that **** was just random, I made it up" - there are 30 240 minutes in three weeks. I looked it up. The number isn't random, is it?

Meanwhile she didn't bother to text you, says she lost her phone, but could have e-mailed you. 7 months you see this woman, you don't contact her, she stays silent for three weeks.

You love her. She likes to have sex with guys. Sometimes you, sometimes others.

Deal with your issues. Also, her age is not a much more significant factor than the fact she shows her boobies to strangers. That last part shows you what kind of woman she is.

 

[5string]

So what if she's a stripper? He said his only goal is to sleep with her. If that's the case, let him have at it.

I have known women if my life that have done things way way worse than strip for money. Try not to define an individual simply by their occupation.

 

[AlexDP]

So what if she's a stripper? He said his only goal is to sleep with her. If that's the case, let him have at it.

I have known women if my life that have done things way way worse than strip for money. Try not to define an individual simply by their occupation.

But it's not. Look at how much threads he has created about this woman. He clearly likes her. He has developed feelings for her. Which is plain stupid.

 

[vatoloco]

Either by ignorance, neediness, being insecure, (or just plain stupidity!), guys stay with women who are obviously wrong for their long-term well-being. Now, what do I mean when I say "wrong girl"? Women who are Damaged Goods, Daddy Issues, Strippers, Barmaid AWs, BPDs, Gold Diggers, etc. usually fit the bill. Sure, fuck them. Very carefully. But be extremely cautious about getting emotionally attached or considering them for anything long-term or serious. Pain is the only thing these types of women will bring to your life if you get too close to them.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1834720#post1834720

 

[5string]

But it's not. Look at how much threads he has created about this woman. He clearly likes her. He has developed feelings for her. Which is plain stupid.

I'll surely agree with you on this Alex. Getting attached emotionally can be very dangerous. Been there, got hurt.

 

[Pimp-sicle]

Neil is ultimately phucked in this situation anyway you slice it.

Emotionally invested in a mentally unstable whack job.

If I believed for ONE SECOND that your only goal was to pound her like a slvt and nothing more, I would tell you that your doing alright.

But as others have seen and is so obvious by the detail in your post, you are very much emotionally tied to this girl.

This is blood in the water dude, and your the bait.

You got a couple numbers last night, but your so emotionally blinded by the stripper, your not even thinking about the potential there.

Very few men can casually see a service woman for a long period of time, while keeping their emotions totally separate.







PIMP

 

[bigneil]

If she dumped me she would have forgotten me and when I called I would have heard that monotone voice, not someone who cared enough to yell. Have you ever yelled at a woman you didn't have huge feelings for?

"Never be put off by a flash of anger or resentment, it's a sure sign of enslavement." (Robert Greene, Art of Seduction).

Did anyone stop to consider I might have increased her attraction? That I might have potentially sacrificed one of my all time babes for this experiment in NC for SS?

Anyhow, for those who are really just out to protect me from getting hurt, she's too young to hurt me. That's the beauty of this. I can't take her that seriously. I was curious what happened and want to see her, but I won't be hurt. I'll laugh it off if and when she gets the best of me. Why do guys get so attached? I've done her so much I'm almost bored of her body by now - who says I won't hurt her? I normally don't want anything to do with a girl once I sleep with her.

IMO this was simply a standoff. Either of us could have contacted the other while both cared enough to count the days. It didn't prove her lack of interest any more than my own.

And this "You'll never make it" mentality assumes marriages with non strippers work?? Don't 51% fail?

 

[bigneil]

Who gives a fvck whether she contacted me first? It's people grasping for straws on the forum, that's who. Most guys are on here asking how to meet women and get their number, and I had this girl go away and have sex and you guys pretend it's over because she didn't contact her ISP for my email? You wish.

 

[Doc Holliday73]

I think there the goal is get the woman. whichever the plan is as long as the girl hits your net and you get your butterfly you have won.
Another important fact is that the most important thing is how do you feel with yourself and about the woman you just got. Bigneil is he only one that knows if he has won this game and if he should keep playing.
For me, if you get the girl and you didn't lose anything....... money, selfrespect, precious time, wife, girlfriend, job, etc. you have won.
As I see it Bigneil is winning as we talk. why? simple...... He sat, waited for the right time called the girl he want and she agreed on date.
Guy is not looking for her love. he wants her body and he is getting hospital chance.

on the other hand I would be very careful with a 20 year old girl, specially a stripper. I would do my best to keep feelings out of this one cause he risk of crashing and burn is very high is feelings get in the mix. young woman are very unstable emotionally and thwarting can easily deal you with their instability.