Breaks up with me, but one more night?

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OK Guys I need help. Have not posted here for about 3 years as all was fantastic with a beautiful, Phd, piano playing girl 17 years younger, I’m 49. Long story short – she lived a long distance away we flew back and forth for two years, she came over to live with me for a year. I have two children, she has one a four year old. Prior she was in a bad relationship where the guy cheated, who was her childhood sweetheart. Got divorced.

Sex was fantastic, compatibility was great, I fell deeply in love with her. Still am. She still had to fly back for her son’s visits with the dad every six weeks. But she could work in both places. But it was a pressure.

I noticed she had a tendency to run away when under pressure. About six months into the year of living together she started to say things like “I love you more than you love me” which was just not true. The kids would all fight a bit and that created pressure and a year in she suggested she get another place to live close by. I reacted badly to this as I though she wanted to break-up, so I said, “Fine the relationships over.” She literally begged and pleaded with me to stay together saying she did not want to break up, that it would just be easier for the kids. Eventually I came around, she got a place. This was about two months ago.

I helped her move in. Even though she was still travelling which meant she was away a fair bit she started to go out more with the girls and less with me. I felt she was pulling away and did the classic chump thing of becoming more controlling and needy. Yep classic beta error I know!

Last week she flies back says “We don’t have a long term future” and breaks up. But then comes in the bedroom naked. In the night we end up f’ing, but I literally breakdown sobbing and let’s just say I was pretty in shock and pretty pathetic! Since we are generally fantastic (she always said I was the best in her life) together, I suggest one more night to get my act together so to speak and then to split. But now the shoe was on the other foot and I was saying not to do this break up, that she would regret it. Yep beta I know. We agree to get together a few days later for a final fling to get me working again.

Then later she says no, that a couple of days later was too soon that she needs to go through the grieving process. So I suggest a number of other dates via txt two a month away. She agrees to one 33 days in the future. We discuss the return of stuff, as she decided to break up after I spent some money to fix her car (this was unusual I did not spend much on her, but would have if she asked) while she was away I ask for this back, she agrees, and we agree we will not see or contact each other, I will just come to her place on the night. She is fine with this. She doesn’t ask for the key to her place back. In a txt she confirms that the relationship is over and that she is so sorry.

So a few days is too soon for the grieving process, and 33 days is ok?

Once she said if we ever break up she would go back straight away, but now she is saying she will stay here till the end of the year.

Ok so I f’ed up and became too beta I know!!! So she dumps me, yep age old story. Says she does not want a relationship with anyone. Of course I don’t believe it when a woman says that and maybe she has her eye on someone else here although she insisted she doesn’t. She says she doesn’t know if she loves me. I think she missed her “party time” when younger and wants it now. But I am convinced she will look back with great regret on ending this, because we really have something.

It’s possible she is going to go after another guy but wants to keep me as back up, or that she is not absolutely ready to split and wants to see how she feels after a month, just in case. I mean the first thing you say in a split up is give me the key back.

So what to do, go ahead with the night or forget it and move on? I’m not actually sure that a final night with her would be good for me psychologically, I’m the one being dumped and still very in love.

Any ideas on how to get out of the beta trap I dug myself into, and any strategy to salvaging this?
 

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Well, I can tell that you are missing her and I'm sorry for that. We've all had that sh!tty feeling.

But my opinion is forget that final night. Hard as it is, you gotta walk away.

And I don't mean to come across as minimizing how special your relationship was, but women's words don't mean sheit. I've been in 4 LTRs and I was "amazing" and their exes were "abusive jerks". When they get ready to move on, they pull the same lines with the next mark.

I'm bitter about my ex so maybe someone more sound of mind could provide better advice, but I think just take the breakup at face value and walk away. I don't think there's any going back now.
 

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If she broke up with you, it's over. Don't waste your time on her and move on. I agree that a woman's word is meaningless.
 

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I agree. She's trying to let you down easy and trying to shroud the fact she's a cold-hearted cvnt by soothing your anguish with her only playing card - sex.
My last LTR was similar. She told me she wanted to move to another country - without me - but when I got p1ssed and tried to end it then and there, she pleaded with me to continue seeing each other until she left.
I stupidly agreed but I think I handled it pretty well.
I'd just go to hers, fvck the guts out of her and leave.
But in hindsight, this was dancing to her tune (as I had the whole relationship) and I now realise I should've just gone ghost.
If you don't think you could handle it psychologically, just leave her alone and focus in yourself.
She dumped you, you owe her nothing. Especially not a farewell fling to help her come to terms with her heartbreaking decision.
 

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Hmmm

Personally I would do the last bang then go completely NC after.
 

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There is a reason she scheduled it 33 days away. It gives her enough time to survey the landscape and see what's up and then MAYBE she'll think about it on Day 30.

Do NOT fall into this trap. She distanced herself from you, DO THE SAME.

But completely, do not contact her... forget about Day 33. In fact, schedule something else for that day. Schedule two other things that day.

Because I'm sure you will be putting your life on hold just for that day to come and then be completely disappointed. Whatever progress you could possibly make in the next 30 days will be undone EITHER way with Day 33. Whether you guys meet up or not, your mental clock will reset and it'll just unhinge you again.

She broke up with you, she said you have no long term future with her and you want to wait for the next 4 weeks for one final fling?

You'd have a lot easier time going out and meeting new women.


And listen, as a side-note, she is doing you a favor. She sounds like she has nothing more than excess baggage/pressure/stress in her life that is spilling into yours. Good riddance.
 

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the last meetup with most likely end up in some of the most memorable and haunting sex you have ever had, and probably best to not go there, because it will make the breakup that much worse.
 

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Cancel that date after 33 days. Call her up tell your not interested, and just say good luck to you.

Make sure you be real unemotional about it, but you have to seriously stick to it. You go full no contact and ignore her.

She may come running back. She may contact you again randomly just to see if you will respond, and if you do it means you care, which will validate her ego and also she wants you as a security net so if and when things don't work out with the knew one, or it gets rocky for her she knows you will be waiting likd a puppy dog.

In her mind, its ok for her to treat you this way. She will rationalize it.

It's all over now, so cut her out of your life for ever, and ever, and ever.

No matter what never, ever respond to her. Don't trust her.

It is over.
 

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flake

Even if you take her up on it, I think there is a high likelihood she flakes.
 

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SoSuave666 said:
Wouldn't even do the bolded part. Agree with the basic premise though.

To the OP:

Just don't talk to her. A breakup with an LTR is a pretty brutal experience in a man's life, and hearing the advice of "don't talk to her" is so counter-intuitive that you probably don't think it will help. But trust me (and the rest of us) when I tell you nothing good will come of day 33. The relationship cannot be mended. NC will help you move on, not get her back.

This woman has done you a favor by breaking up with you. Don't ruin that favor by trying to get her back on day 33. She wants out of your life? Give it to her. Any prior investment you have made in her is simply a memory now. Get rid of anything in your home that reminds you of her. Anything of hers that is valuable drop off at her place immediately (when she is not home). Everything else that holds sentimental value can--and should--be thrown away. She has given you an opportunity at a new life with someone else, no go out and find that person!

Also, don't drink during this period. It will make you far more emotional and probably end up with you calling her or visiting her. Best of luck.
I was guilty of this. I went full retard, trust me you dont want to know. If you handle this break up properly, you will be doing yourself a huge favor, and save yourself a lot of mental anguish.

Just drop off the earth. Yes it might hurt, or it might be easy for you. Don't drink.

Had I stayed sober, and just agreed to my last break up, and gone for ever nc (because of the frame) my life would be very, very different now.

Go running a lot, it will help.
 

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Kailex said:
There is a reason she scheduled it 33 days away. It gives her enough time to survey the landscape and see what's up and then MAYBE she'll think about it on Day 30.
^^^^This, repped. This simply gives her time to roll around in the greener grass befor she has to mow. She has basically given herself a hall pass that you get to pay for with 33 days of sorrow and hurt. If she likes the green grass better, she's not gonna fvck you on day 33 anyway. But if the mowing is worse than she thought, she can come back to you with a nice night of passionate sex that you have been waiting around on.
 

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OK here's the plan...

Thank you everyone for replying in such a helpful way.

With a bit more time to think about it and your help I do think two factors, the fact that she did not ask for the keys back and is happy with day 33 both make it less final and also buys her time to see how it feels living without me. She always did have a hard time making decisions.

Yes she could flake prior to day 33, but I actually doubt it, both of us spent a long time working on making her, well let’s just say achieve a female high during sex. This she had not achieved with any other guy and believe me time and technique wise I know why. She is unlikely to find this again so I think she is going to miss it.

I did a lot of stuff for her like proof her reports with a good alternative knowledge base to make additions, so I doubt she will find that again that easily either.

Finally, her son was very into me, in fact it’s going to be hard for him. She was always very cautious introducing anyone new to her son and so it is just not that easy for her to jump on the carousel, and she was very difficult to seduce, she’s not a carousel girl anyway, so good luck to the other guys.

I’m going to get everything that reminds me of her from my house and drop it over this weekend to her place when she's not home.

What to do about day 33?

Well I don’t think she will flake, I will. I’m going to say nothing and just not turn up. It’s playing on her terms and I don’t think it’s psychologically healthy anyway.

I’m going to go full NC, as advised. Thank you!
 

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If you have ever listened to any advice in your life, listen to this.

IF, and I say IF you want this girl back, you need to do one thing and one thing only. Go 100% totally gone baby gone no contact. Tell her you are not interested in going on a date in 33 days and wish her the best. And then disappear. Resist any and all temptation to contact her. If you do that? Odds are she will come back and come back strong. She will wonder if she made a big mistake and it will eat her alive. If you persist in staying in contact with her and planning on that date in 33 days? She will just use this time to justify breaking up with you AND search for someone else. I cannot stress this enough.

In the meantime use the time apart to truly come to grips that while she probably will come back, it is best for YOU that you stay broken up. Once something like this happens in a relationship, it is very hard to ever come back from. That special bond and trust has been broken. When you find the right person? Something like this would never ever happen. It would be unthinkable. Sadly one has to wait for that. It cannot be forced. So use this time to start the healing. Get into better shape. Go out with friends. Start the process of finding someone who is truly your one and only. She is out there.

Good luck.
 

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Plan revisited

Thank you again everyone for taking the time to reply!

Yes I agree, waiting around for 33 days is just more beta even if I don't turn up. I'll drop off the stuff, cancel the 33 day night and go NC.
 

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you shouldn't give a shyte man. and at the end of the 30 days when she wants to get together tell her sorry i found another one (and please DO find another one), it doesn't feel right. or fck her the last day, and then forget her. :D
or not, just forget her. be an alpha, live your own life, you don't need the drama. GIRLS need the drama. we need success, logic and to empty our wieners into these broads occasionally.
learn your lesson from this. girls are like pets, only not as reliable. live with it, and you will be a happy man.
 

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I'm VERY worried about this response.

countermart said:
With a bit more time to think about it and your help I do think two factors, the fact that she did not ask for the keys back and is happy with day 33 both make it less final and also buys her time to see how it feels living without me. She always did have a hard time making decisions.
Not as hard you think... she obviously made a decision to "end" the relationship with you. So don't for a second think that she is completely undecided on what she wants to do. She KNOWS what she wants to do, but she's going to take her time to see how it all plays out and then go from there.

Yes she could flake prior to day 33, but I actually doubt it, both of us spent a long time working on making her, well let’s just say achieve a female high during sex.
This is where I am worried. Do you think this matters as much to her? And how do you know for sure that that is the case? Because she told you so? Have you been there whenever she had sex? Do you know how many women have admitted to me that they have lied about stuff like that to their ex-boyfriends, etc, etc... just because they knew it'd boost their ego? She can recreate that feeling with another guy. It might not be immediate, but it could happen... just as you could recreate that feeling with another woman.

This she had not achieved with any other guy and believe me time and technique wise I know why. She is unlikely to find this again so I think she is going to miss it.
Unlikely, but not impossible. And she WILL try. If she didn't want to give some other guy another shot... then why aren't you two still together? Obviously the sexual rewards didn't outweigh everything else.

I did a lot of stuff for her like proof her reports with a good alternative knowledge base to make additions, so I doubt she will find that again that easily either.
Seriously?

Finally, her son was very into me, in fact it’s going to be hard for him. She was always very cautious introducing anyone new to her son and so it is just not that easy for her to jump on the carousel, and she was very difficult to seduce, she’s not a carousel girl anyway, so good luck to the other guys.
You are hinging her sentimentality on orgasms, proofing, and her son? This is going to be a long 33 days. Guess what... there will come a time that that son won't even remember who you are... you were just a distant blip in his life, if she decides to move on, because for him... her mother's happiness will always trump the memory of you. You don't know that the next guy could be even better than you are... or he could be worse, but you can't sit there and say how hard it is for him to see his mom for someone else... that could very well never happen!

I’m going to get everything that reminds me of her from my house and drop it over this weekend to her place when she's not home.
Mail it to her. Because the universe will work itself in a way that you will drop it off and she WILL be there. I mean, how would you know if she wasn't unless you saw a car? And then the temptation creeps in to knock on her door... and all sorts of other stuff. Just mail her the stuff she had. PLEASE.

What to do about day 33?
Nothing. NOTHING. There is no Day 33. There is only a Day 33 because YOU allowed there to be a Day 33. So, it only exists in your mind. It might be a small reminder in her calendar... you know, just in case. But remember, she set this date, NOT you.

Well I don’t think she will flake, I will. I’m going to say nothing and just not turn up. It’s playing on her terms and I don’t think it’s psychologically healthy anyway.

I’m going to go full NC, as advised. Thank you!
You don't think admits that you aren't 100% sure that she wouldn't... hence, there exists the possibility that she will because she's a FEMALE. Why do you have to "cancel" anything? Just mail her her junk and that's it. NC. NC. NC. NC. Not partial NC. Not just phone NC. ALL NC...ALL the time.
 

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Thanks everyone

Thank you everyone for replying and for your fantastic encouragement, advice and support.

On the night I asked her what her friends thought. She advised that they said she should not break up with me, kind of strange for a girl not to follow her friends, but sobeit.

I've collected all of her stuff from my house and will drop it over to her place Saturday when she is not home. After that I will text her to break off night 33, it’s too beta to wait around for a month for a f**k (her loss anyway lol), and it’s playing to her tune. Then NC,... move forward.

There are a couple of other girls in close orbit, I work in a target rich environment, but I’m going to let it ride awhile, I need to regain my composure.

No need for more replies. Thanks again to everyone.

Countermart.
 

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countermart said:
I've collected all of her stuff from my house and will drop it over to her place Saturday when she is not home. After that I will text her to break off night 33, it’s too beta to wait around for a month for a f**k (her loss anyway lol), and it’s playing to her tune. Then NC,... move forward.
I know you are going to do whatever you want to do anyway... that's how anybody learns... but honestly, do NOT text her to break off Night 33. Why can't you just let it be? Why can't the act of her finding a box full of her crap speak for itself? Just block her number NOW. There is no need for a text.

If you want to REALLY go NC, you go NC NOW. Not AFTER you send a text.

You send that text, you set yourself up for a world of hurt, because you'll be sitting there waiting for ANY reply. It's a fishing attempt from you.

Again, I know you'll do whatever you "feel" is best, but this sounds like a possible case of "When texting goes wrong".

Still, best of luck.
 

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This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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