breakfast food suitable for weightlifting?

[RaWBLooD]

Re: Fats....

Originally posted by KillaPetehog
Whether it's coming from a healthy source of fat such as avocadoes or eggs, or unhealthy sources of fat such a hamburger.......I wouldn't mess with 30 grams of fat for a breakfast. I like my foods to have mostly protein...and little or no fat....


Again, we eat differently and think differently..and I do things that people don't normally do...

For instance..

I take out the skin out of chicken (high source of protein...little fat)
I prefer non-fat milk (high source of protein..10 gram..no fat)
I prefer tuna and fish (very high source of protein...little fat)
I take protein bars high in protien (30 grams) and low in carbs and fat (high protein, low fat)
I get lean pork (contrary to popular belief, pork isn't "ALL FAT"..and lean versions have good protein and little fat)
I eat egg whites and remove the yolk (excellent protein..little fat)
I choose wheat bread and brown rice over white bread and white rice. (nothing about protein...but quality of fiber...)
I take protein shakes with little carbs and no fat.
I cut out most of the fat from steak...
I eat a handful of almonds....helps out in many ways...


...you get the point....

In the long run, I am still able to gain weight, mass and muscle....but it's not weight from fat or "healthy" fats...but from high sources of protein..Why deal with the fat...when you can get the protein without it?

uh dude..... you need fat for many thinsg including brain function hormone production, joint lubrication, organ insulation, omg....... dude u need fat.

 

[Warboss Alex]

Every weight-trainer and nutritionist will tell you that it's preferable to eat the egg whites.

Okay, I'm a weight trainer and I'll bet I've been lifting longer than you have, I hope to get my personal training diploma (dunno what took me so long) in the next year or so, which includes a course in nutrition .. and I'd tell you that unless you're dieting for a bodybuilding show, then go with whole eggs. There's a whole host of goodness in egg yolks, including over half the protein in the whole egg and a good dose of (mostly unsaturated) fat.

Life's too short (and expensive!) to be seperating and throwing away egg yolks! If you insist, buy liquid egg whites or the pasteurised ones.. but whoever said fat was evil?

What's wrong with 30g of any kind of fat for breakfast? I eat six eggs for breakfast daily (except some days when there's a couple spare in which case I'll have more) - that's over 40g.
I'll have a double protein drink with a 30-50g olive/flax oil blend other times of day, and yes I'd have it for breakfast if I didn't prefer solid food.

Does it make me fat? Nope, I'm actually leaner than I've ever been (since my army days anyway), got the outline of my abs.

In my view it makes sense to get high-calorie foods at breakfast, get the old furnace stoked and whatnot...

Don't tell me you're one of the 'only 30g protein per meal' bunch because if the body can absorb more than 30g of protein per meal (which it can) then yes, it can absorb more than 30g of fat.

I agree about choosing lean cuts of meat and taking measures to reduce the fat content of meat (parboiling pork, rinsing ground beef, trimming off visible fat from chicken etc) and the benefits of nuts and avocadoes, BUT you want to gain muscle, remember that protein is the most important thing, yes, but you can't live off it.

Eating even 500g of protein per day is still only 2000 calories at best. You need a healthy smattering of fats (50g is only 500 calories remember) and plenty of carbs too - protein is the building brick yes but a calorific surplus is the construction team. For easy calories, you can't beat fats. Actually that's what I use fats for - calories (and EFAs of course). Protein is the muscle-food, carbs are an energy source to get through the day and my training sessions, and increasing fats ensures my calorific surplus.

Source them solely from EFAs if you feel so inclined, but there's nothing wrong with some saturated fat in your diet. In fact, it'd do far more good than harm.

And you really can't beat four fried eggs sitting on a couple of sirloin steaks with plenty of black pepper.

Wait, yes you can. Six fried eggs on three steaks.

 

[semag]

15 cans of tuna @ costco = $8.00
5 dozen eggs @ costco = $3.49
6 lbs of chicken frozen breast = $13.00
being bigger than everyone you know = priceless.

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by semag
15 cans of tuna @ costco = $8.00
5 dozen eggs @ costco = $3.49
6 lbs of chicken frozen breast = $13.00
being bigger than everyone you know = priceless.

going on a binge and eating a tub of ice cream.......... failure.

 

[semag]

Being the post-farmer that everyone despises = banned.

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by semag
Being the post-farmer that everyone despises = banned.

well then we will miss you.:cheer:

 

[Warboss Alex]

Originally posted by RaWBLooD
going on a binge and eating a tub of ice cream.......... failure.

Maybe I'm a failure, but I'll bet my biceps that they're a damn sight bigger than yours.

KillaPeteHog, the three steaks and six fried eggs isn't a daily occurrence but, um, okay, I'm having that later on too, got some steaks in the fridge, gotta eat 'em before they go mouldy y'know, terrible to waste protein like that..

That 2200 calories you quoted can only be an estimate, since even a non-athlete could have a high metabolism and need more than that. Also, I don't count calories or even think in 24hr blocks. I know my body doesn't.

We both have our views on fat, I'll respect yours since you respect mine and leave it at that - if what you're doing is working successfully to your standards then roll with it, it's cool.

(Incidentally, I dunno where you are, but I haven't found anywhere that tuna is cheaper than eggs..)

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by Warboss Alex
Maybe I'm a failure, but I'll bet my biceps that they're a damn sight bigger than yours.

im willing to take that bet. I know you wont be so ****y afterwards.

 

[Warboss Alex]

lol, I PM'd you back.. your inbox was full.

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by Warboss Alex
lol, I PM'd you back.. your inbox was full.

cant be i only got 2 pms

 

[mrRuckus]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: good breakfast...

Originally posted by KillaPetehog

take some nutrition classes and go to school, cuz you're obviously just some 18 year old jock who doesn't know shyt.

And you look silly for letting an 18 year old work you up and make you resort to name calling because of a simple disagreement.

but i won't bring that up

 

[brucevangeorge]

You still dont know shyt

 

[brucevangeorge]

Just eat whatever you want. If you find that you are gaining too much fat, cut back the carbs. Make sure you eat enough protein. Meat is protein.

The only acceptable carbs that you absolutely CANNOT cut out are fruits and vegetables. If you cut them out you feel like ****. The vitamins, minerals, and enzymes are crucial to bulking and peak performance.

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by brucevangeorge
Just eat whatever you want. If you find that you are gaining too much fat, cut back the carbs. Make sure you eat enough protein. Meat is protein.

The only acceptable carbs that you absolutely CANNOT cut out are fruits and vegetables. If you cut them out you feel like ****. The vitamins, minerals, and enzymes are crucial to bulking and peak performance.

Your body makes the enzymes you need, not the produce u consume.

 

[MetalFortress]

Hey Raw, no, you don't only have two PM's. I've tried twice to reply to you and it's been full. Stop lying.

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by MetalFortress
Hey Raw, no, you don't only have two PM's. I've tried twice to reply to you and it's been full. Stop lying.

u can try now, ive deleted the sent ims.

 

[RaWBLooD]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: good breakfast...

Originally posted by KillaPetehog
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its funny how you quoted mostly the same people over and over, with a few that like to jump the bandwagon.