Breakdown (psychology)

[wifehunter]

I'm an Army Vet. The Army changed my life. They broke me down, only to build me up. The Army can create a soldier out of a person off the street.

What is keeping us from creating quality women out of these beautiful selfcentered narcissitic ladies? We need to treat them appropriately, like the scum that they are! Yes, they may be stunning, but their minds are full of dead things. Social media is an indicator and an amplifier. But, maybe the key to winning this war? I don't know. Lets expose them for what they are, and at the same time, make the world a little bit less grim and dark!

 

[fastlife]

The quickest way to change a girl's behavior toward you is to change your mindset. If she knows you won't put up with her **** (and you've established enough value), most girls will act like wifey material around you to the degree that you don't change your behavior and to the degree that she doesn't realize she'll be better off pursuing more manipulable targets to realize her long term goals (that second part will lose you plenty of girls or save you plenty of headache, depending on how you want to look at it).

Your best bet is to start off with the best possible raw material you can find and to never lose frame. But I don't look at any girl as a finished product. I'm not a finished product--she can either grow with me or get outgrown. You name your own price. Most girls can and will make some sort of effort to be their best selves if that's the minimum requirement--most guys don't demand or expect that and are happy enough just to get sex.

 

[Glumix]

You were a volunteer in the army. She is not. She has to be willing to change. Otherwise, to treat a narcissistic appropriately is to walk away. That's the best education you can give her.

 

[wifehunter]

You were a volunteer in the army. She is not. She has to be willing to change. Otherwise, to treat a narcissistic appropriately is to walk away. That's the best education you can give her.

There it is again! Walk away... it seems to be the answer to almost all difficulties. However, I'm looking at the big picture. To walk away on a larger scale is isolation... and impractical. Or is it? Still thinking.

 

[Glumix]

Solitude is not isolation.

You don't know all women. Some are good, some are bad. If you stay with the bad you will never meet the good. But I am just repeating what fastlife said here. If you run after the plates and s3x you will find the plates and 5ex, nothing more.

 

[Serenity]

I'm an Army Vet. The Army changed my life. They broke me down, only to build me up. The Army can create a soldier out of a person off the street.

What is keeping us from creating quality women out of these beautiful selfcentered narcissitic ladies? We need to treat them appropriately, like the scum that they are! Yes, they may be stunning, but their minds are full of dead things. Social media is an indicator and an amplifier. But, maybe the key to winning this war? I don't know. Lets expose them for what they are, and at the same time, make the world a little bit less grim and dark!

Treating people like the people are treated in the military is not okay. Breaking people down isn't good, period. Many have tried that tactic in the free world, but these women being free can simply stop giving a fvck and walk away. Good luck treating them like scum, it's called harrassment and is completely unnecessary. If you don't like some woman then peacefully steer away, if you don't like all women then what the fvck are you complaining about? If they're so damn sh!tty then just avoid them all. Don't go around treating them like sh!t, it doesn't work like it does on young and unwise men. It changes nothing and might even just make things worse.

Your post says more about you than women. It just tells me you view women as self-centered, narsissistic and scum with a dead mind. That's an extremely negative (and narrow) way to view women. You may understand hate and war, but you seem to lack understanding of peace and love.

I don't view the world as grim and dark in general, certainly not because of women alone. Some parts are grim and dark, like when I encounter the ones who has that view like you do. You're the one with the darkness of hate towards women. I don't want you to do that sh!t, you're not taking away any darkness, you're just adding more both with this post and if you do what I think you want to do.

Go ahead, expose women for what they are. Make sure you're absolutely certain about what they are before you do though, meaning be critical towards your own perception to make sure you're not just subjective. You might find you weren't entirely correct.

 

[Asmodeus]

Do not expect narcissistic behavior to just change on its own. Trying to break a narcissist down does not work... They are often like that not because of a high self esteem but rather it develops out of insecurities. This is something that has been shown in almost every psychological study on the condition http://www.livescience.com/16650-narcissists-esteem.html. Creating more insecurities, by treating them as scum may only further the pathology.
That being said... Not all women are so self centered. However I will agree that there is a social shift that happened which changed things a bit, in recent times there been a redefining of traditional gender roles and of the gender roles of females. Women are biologically programed to marry up in class and standing, and with more women in careers and more women having college degrees their bar is now being raised to rather unreasonable levels compared to what it was in previous generations. However discussing that would be a very long and exhaustive discussion in and of itself...

 

[wifehunter]

Treating people like the people are treated in the military is not okay. Breaking people down isn't good, period. Many have tried that tactic in the free world, but these women being free can simply stop giving a fvck and walk away. Good luck treating them like scum, it's called harrassment and is completely unnecessary. If you don't like some woman then peacefully steer away, if you don't like all women then what the fvck are you complaining about? If they're so damn sh!tty then just avoid them all. Don't go around treating them like sh!t, it doesn't work like it does on young and unwise men. It changes nothing and might even just make things worse.

Your post says more about you than women. It just tells me you view women as self-centered, narsissistic and scum with a dead mind. That's an extremely negative (and narrow) way to view women. You may understand hate and war, but you seem to lack understanding of peace and love.

I don't view the world as grim and dark in general, certainly not because of women alone. Some parts are grim and dark, like when I encounter the ones who has that view like you do. You're the one with the darkness of hate towards women. I don't want you to do that sh!t, you're not taking away any darkness, you're just adding more both with this post and if you do what I think you want to do.

Go ahead, expose women for what they are. Make sure you're absolutely certain about what they are before you do though, meaning be critical towards your own perception to make sure you're not just subjective. You might find you weren't entirely correct.

Straw man

 

[wifehunter]

Do not expect narcissistic behavior to just change on its own. Trying to break a narcissist down does not work... They are often like that not because of a high self esteem but rather it develops out of insecurities. This is something that has been shown in almost every psychological study on the condition http://www.livescience.com/16650-narcissists-esteem.html. Creating more insecurities, by treating them as scum may only further the pathology.
That being said... Not all women are so self centered. However I will agree that there is a social shift that happened which changed things a bit, in recent times there been a redefining of traditional gender roles and of the gender roles of females. Women are biologically programed to marry up in class and standing, and with more women in careers and more women having college degrees their bar is now being raised to rather unreasonable levels compared to what it was in previous generations. However discussing that would be a very long and exhaustive discussion in and of itself...

I get it... my post is mainly a response to feminists.

 

[Serenity]

Straw man

Please elaborate on how I didn't argue against what you wrote and instead made a straw man to argue against. Because I don't get it and I really tried seeing how it's a straw man argument.

 

[FCB]

What you are talking about can only really be achieved on an individual level and it probably takes dark triad techniques to pull off.

 

[Asmodeus]

I just think that if you treat them like scum... You will only create bitterness and resentment, which they will turn and direct back at you. It will cycle upon itself, you treat them like scum and they give you resentment... Until it spins out of control. No, if you want to win you take another approach. Avoid them, do not concern yourself with them. When a narcissist or someone who is a social media ***** shows off give them no attention whatsoever. Let them know that you don't care. That they do not even deserve your negativity. Narcissist and social media *****s love attention, they will even bathe in bad publicity, some seek out any attention they can get. So you give them none of your time, none of your attention. Keep that time to yourself, turn your attention toward better things like your own self improvement. Then, they will be starved of their precious attention...

 

[wifehunter]

I just think that if you treat them like scum... You will only create bitterness and resentment, which they will turn and direct back at you. It will cycle upon itself, you treat them like scum and they give you resentment... Until it spins out of control. No, if you want to win you take another approach. Avoid them, do not concern yourself with them. When a narcissist or someone who is a social media ***** shows off give them no attention whatsoever. Let them know that you don't care. That they do not even deserve your negativity. Narcissist and social media *****s love attention, they will even bathe in bad publicity, some seek out any attention they can get. So you give them none of your time, none of your attention. Keep that time to yourself, turn your attention toward better things like your own self improvement. Then, they will be starved of their precious attention...

Yeah, scum is usually something that needs to be scrubbed off... LOL!!!/verbal irony

Yes, I agree! It's better to just ignore, and let nature take it's course.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

This got me thinking, I know that most of you hate those clingy girls or insecure ones who pretty much CAN'T live without you, but that also means that they are willing to change themselves for you. Maybe after enough manipulating or charming, you can break her down to build her up again.

 

[Asmodeus]

I have tried manipulation and charm on clingy girls. In fact that is my MO... I have come to the conclusion that human action and behaviors can be changed to an extent, but human nature and a persons personality cannot be changed. They are attached to their identity, it is something immovable, to change it completely is impossible.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I have tried manipulation and charm on clingy girls. In fact that is my MO... I have come to the conclusion that human action and behaviors can be changed to an extent, but human nature and a persons personality cannot be changed. They are attached to their identity, it is something immovable, to change it completely is impossible.

I beg to differ. I used to be a very fun, energeic, and social kid when I was really young (say elementary school) but everyone around me (parents included) kinda had me me believing certain things that crushed me and turned me into this 'thing' that was below beta.

Then puberty hit and now I'm like **** all else, Imma do whatever the hell I want and it's worked out just fine. I'm not the same person I used to be. My thought process has COMPLETELY changed.

I think this is because it happened before puberty was over. Otherwise I wouldn't have changed at all really.

 

[Asmodeus]

Puberty is one thing, as is childhood. In such youth personality is still forming. Personality is part nature, part nurture. Typically, once people reach adulthood personality becomes a rather solid thing, a literal part of their psyche.