still no game
hello
i thought i'd just give you a wrap up of my week, feel free to send
me your comments and help me to improve...
still having a lot of trouble getting the first date so i have been
working on improving my venue changing, isolation, rapport building and physical escalation skills
wednesday night, pub environment, sarging with loki, eros and brucex
the guys had arranged to meet up for a sarging session, i got there early and didn't see anyone that i recognised, it was pretty dead, there were some people at the bar and others sitting at tables having dinner, so i scanned around for any hb's that i could open, saw a mixed set 2 guys, 2 girls playing pool, hb7 and hb8, opened the hb7 with a neg, "are you a skatie or a surfie chick?" she said "neither, i'm more like a nerd!" i said "cool, i like cute nerdie girls", anyways my friends arrived so i went to greet them, later i re-engaged, had some small talk about what she was doing there and what she did for work, she said that they were all there for her friend's 18th birthday, i sat down at their table, talked some stuff about what i do and gave her a business card, i grabbed a pen and paper and asked for her number, she took out her own pen and paper wrote down her number and gave it to me, i went back to my group of friends, we re-engaged them later on and it all went down hill after that, tried to neg her a bit and grab her hand bag, but she started to pull back, probably because we were talking too much about evolution and pick up and logical stuff like that, anyways finally i tried to isolate and she refused to come with me... so we left shorty there after
thursday night, pub / club environment, sarging with mayfair, eros, loki and brucex
i had it in my mind to be more direct and get over my fear of
physically escalating, i find that i'm pretty good at opening a set
and keeping them interested but seem to hesitate when trying to
isolate and escalate my target, so anyways, i went around thursday night just saying "hey, excuse me... i've got twister at my place... you wanna come over and play... rright hand red!" to which they would say no and tell me to get lost, anyways it was an interesting experiment in improving my cavemaning skills, i have to say, as the night progressed i began to get a lot more desperate and a lot more physical, if a girl started to talk to me i would get really physical and try and grab her around the waist, play with her hair etc, didn't succeed though because the 2 i tried it on already had boyfriends but it was an interesting experiement none the less, definitely have to try out some more direct stuff in future, to improve my mind set and to get into a more sexual state when i'm in set
friday night, club environment, sarging with mayfair
hb7 and hb6, i opened them up and we had a bit of a discussion, no one had approached them all night and they were both here from out of town, they were at the beginning of a 6 month trip around australia, eventually they said they had to go because they didn't have any cash for a taxi and so they had to catch the 11pm bus, i said don't worry, i've got my car i can take you around town and show you all the cool places, they agreed, eventually i managed to move them to the lounge seats upstairs and was able to lock myself into the set, they seemed really into me, hb7 already had a boyfriend but hb6 still seemed cute, if she lost a bit of weightt she would have been a hb7 for sure, anyways they decided to go to the bar and get themselves a drink, they asked if i could wait for them to return, i said sure, and waited, because i didn't want to get up and lose our cosy seat in the corner, anyways they came back eventually but said they had to go off and meet up with a friend and asked if i would still be here when they got back, i said sure, anyways that was the end of the set, tried calling up to invite them out during the weekend but they didn't really accept my offer
saturday night, club environment, sarging with brucex
i asked bruce to come along and watch me in action and to give me some tips on how i could improve, i got there first and bruce was not there yet so i messaged him and then saw a 2 set hb7 and hb8, hb7 would have been an 8 if she was a little younger, hb8 would have been a 9 if she wasn't a smoker, anyways i went over and introduced myself, they were sitting at a table, there was one spare seat except it had a hand bag on it, hb8 removed the hand bag and asked me to join them, ran my standard stack of stories and dhvs, i had reached the hook point and they were open to me being around them, bruce arrived, i went over and chatted to him for a bit then i re-engaged the set, a third hb7 arrived and joined the group, by this stage we ran out of seats, after a bit of chit chat, i went to try and find myself a seat but couldn't, went looking for bruce just to give him an update and to ask for his advice, he said "it's all about positioning, see if you can get them to come out to the beer garden", so i went back and re-engaged, i found a spare seat and sat down at the table, paying most of my attention to the hb7 that had just arrived, eventually i was able to talk them into going out to the beer garden, i helped grab their champagne bottle and ice bucket
and we went outside, hb7 saw someone that she knew so we went and sat down with a 4 set, 2 hb6s and 2 hb7s, she introduced us all and suddenly the original 2 set had turned into a 7 set, i chatted to hb8 (my target) some more, her friend hb7 was talking to someone on the phone, they asked me to take some photos on my camera phone and send it to someone, i said my phone doesn't have a flash so we had to go somewhere where there was more light, they agreed and we stood
just outside the ladies room where there was some light, took some pictures and then sent them to some number that they gave me, apparently some guy that hb7 wanted to make jealous, anyways i asked hb8 if she wanted me to send her the photo as well, she said yes, can you email them to me? so i did, it seemed like the group was spilt in 2 so i wanted to show them that i was a fun and interesting guy by engaging the rest of the group in conversation and so i went around and chatted to the other girls, i did too good a job at it because it was taking far too long, to work my way around back to hb8, hb8 approached me as i was chatting to one of the other girls in the group and she said goodbye and gave me a peck on the cheek, i had already got her friend hb7's phone number so she just said cool, well you have hb7's phone number so we'll be in touch, and she left, i was right in the middle of giving a hand massage so i didn't think to follow her out but i should have, anyways i messed up there big
time, we continued chatting to the remainder of the group,
eventually they left and i got one more number from a hb7 and that was it, in retrospect i should have isolated hb8 early on when we had merged the two groups, dammit!
bruce proceeded to give me a de brief afterwards (bruce's anylitical skills are fantastic by the way, partly because he's studying medicine and party because he's a blardy hippie), he was able to give me some really interesting feedback, some stuff that i thought wow, how did you notice that? i've been thinking the same thing but haven't been able to articulate it as well as you have... anyways to summarise, the key finding there was that if i want to improve i have to find my mojo... argh! i still don't fully understand it but i know that he's right, can't keep being the non-sexually threatening, almost gay guy who is there to entertain everyone
anyways, pretty long post huh? there was a lot more but this is the stuff that i thought is worth reviewing, thanks for reading
to summarise my strengths at the moment are: opening up sets,
locking myself into the set and reaching the hook point, moving them from one spot to another and getting numbers, these things are all good for me
my weaknesses are: isolating my target, physically escalating, i'm
coming across as being a-sexual / an entertainer and not a potential partner / sex toy (hence needing to find my mojo) and getting to the day 2
so this is the sh*t i have to work on this week! still no day 2 so i'm stuck here for a little longer :-(
cheers
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