Bootcamp Week#4: Lets Get Rejected!!!...

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Originally posted by GodsGiftToFatBirds
Seems a bit daft to me if failure's rewarded (in terms of the bootcamp) but success isn't - know what i mean?
Failure is success, because it is only thru failure (rejections which are inevitable) that we will succeed.

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Originally posted by GodsGiftToFatBirds
Yeh fvck it, i'm up for this, i'm joining too starting tomorrow!

Btw, are you guys only counting the tallies if you actually end up getting rejected? ie. are you counting successful number closes or whatever?
Seems a bit daft to me if failure's rewarded (in terms of the bootcamp) but success isn't - know what i mean?
You should read what the whole bootcamp is about, each phase is to eliminate your fears and built up your courage and your skills. This week is about fighting the fear of rejections. So that's why the goal is to get rejected. Next week will be about getting #s.
 

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You should read what the whole bootcamp is about, each phase is to eliminate your fears and built up your courage and your skills. This week is about fighting the fear of rejections. So that's why the goal is to get rejected. Next week will be about getting #s.
Oh yeh I've read the bootcamp, I've actually done the first 4 weeks before. But what I found when I did week 4 before was that when I made a move on a girl, I hardly ever got rejected!
A lot of girls would give me their number but then not be interested when i called or texted them.
What exactly do you count as a rejection?
 

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Not exactly dropping out:

Well, guys, I am broke, busy, don't have time to do anything, or money to do it with which equals--loser.

I will pick this up again, and probably start completely over when my life settles down just a bit. It has been a great confidence booster and things are going well with the girl I met at the halloween party. Sorry to do this to y'all, but it's the best way to go right now.

Remember, this site is about improving your status with girls, status with yourself, but the most important of all: status with your life. My life has been vastly improved by this, and I could not be happier (or so it seems) than I am now.
 

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Re: Not exactly dropping out:

Originally posted by The Nice Guy is Gone
Well, guys, I am broke, busy, don't have time to do anything, or money to do it with which equals--loser.

I will pick this up again, and probably start completely over when my life settles down just a bit. It has been a great confidence booster and things are going well with the girl I met at the halloween party. Sorry to do this to y'all, but it's the best way to go right now.

Remember, this site is about improving your status with girls, status with yourself, but the most important of all: status with your life. My life has been vastly improved by this, and I could not be happier (or so it seems) than I am now.
Wait!

Ok, go. But if you truely could not be happier, why call yourself a loser? If you wanted a LTR and you think HBhalloween is TRUELY the one, goodluck. You came out winning. Life 1st, women 2nd. But a good woman will contribute to your life.

The way I see it is, after BC, you're gonna come out differently. A new man who has more options. For me, I want to test drive a few HBs before I contract oneitis. But hey, only you will know what you want from life. I was talking with my friend about meditation & soul searching and realized; when you discover for yourself, you will fully understand. When someone else tells you, you understand the other person has made a discovery.

Goodluck bro. The Nice Guy has now Gone.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

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Royal Blood Boy's dilemma

So on friday I'm gonna go to the hospital for a dose of radioactive iodine. This means I can't come in close contact with people for about 1-2 weeks. I got a medical certificate for a month, heh no work for a month, so I guess I got more time for BC. Anyway I'll try to cram 10 rejections tomorrow before I become a hermit.

I will be able to go out by mid-week 5, so I may be a little quiet til then. But it won't stop me from calling up the numbers I've obtain in BC and setting up dates for then!

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Check this out people. Somebody recently asked me how to turn fluffy boring talk into a great conversation with good rapport. I know week 4's exercises are about REJECTIONS but this post by xblitz44x was too good to not share. For those budding DJs to add to their repertoire: credit goes to xblitz44x
 

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ya 2 rejections down

im walken on the street see this hot girl and i go hey baby your looken mighty fine are your parents retarded cuz your pretty special leme have your digets.
of couse i got rejected got laughed at by her and the friends walken with her


:)



also i got somethen as good as a rejection. This girl has been giving me mixed signals for like a few weeks. One point shes like best friend and now shees been avoiden me for like a week and a half. so im gonna go up to her and be like why have you been avoiding me and take it from there then if she says somethen negative or somethen just gonna turn my back and walk away!


2 down and my own today rejection = 3
 

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Originally posted by GodsGiftToFatBirds
Oh yeh I've read the bootcamp, I've actually done the first 4 weeks before. But what I found when I did week 4 before was that when I made a move on a girl, I hardly ever got rejected!
A lot of girls would give me their number but then not be interested when i called or texted them.
What exactly do you count as a rejection?
I count rejection as when they turn you down in the first encounter. Go to a popular club and hit on every girl in the club and I garranteed you that you'll get 10 rejections easily.
 

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Question: Do you guys approach girls you are actually interested in? Or do you "cheat" and approach girl you're not attracted to in the first place?

You'll have to agree there's no much merit in getting rejected by fifty 2s and then proclaim: "That's it, rejection doesn't faze me,I've attained the Nirvana in "DJing". I am a God"

Anyway, much respect to guys who do it the real way.
 

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i went to the mall today and got another 3 rejections down. when i go up to a hot girl i just act like an ass then say hey can i get your number. They most of the time always give me some sleezy comment and laugh at me. i would have had 4 rejections today though, but some girl actually gave me her number. I was like whoa how did that happen :eek:.

im finding though that most girls like guys like that. you cant be a complete ****head but you just gotta be a guy who does not give a ****

im going to the mall tommorow too haha gotta love haven friday off.
 

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Ok well, if every rejection counts, then I've got 1 today, i've had an interesting day with women - i'll explain.

First of all, I had a coffee date this afternoon with this girl I met on Monday when I was working (I work in a student bar at the moment), we both only had half an hour for it, it went ok but we didn't completely hit it off as well as i'd hoped and I had a bit of difficulty making it any more than a routine conversation. She was seriously hot (she's from the US, and was a model back home before she came to uni here, was a definite HB9) and I sometimes still have a limiting belief with girls of that standard.
I want to learn a few of the routines that Style uses in The Game, anyone know where on the net you can actually find them?

Then I had a long shift working in the bar from 5:45 til half 1, were plenty of HB's out and I always make the effort to chat to them all, but its not a case of cracking on to every single bird when i'm working, even for bootcamp, I prefer to pick and choose my targets.
My one rejection only counts if we're counting any sort of rejection, it was when i was on my break and walking round the place, i got chatting to this girl who i know a little bit, we were messing about and flirting but i was tring to get her to come home with me at the end of the night but she turned me down! I wasn't that bothered, she's only like a 7, and i'm leaving the place in less than 2 weeks, so i'm not too bothered about my reputation.

I was also flirting heavily with this girl (about HB8) I was serving, she was obviously into me but I didn't close her at the time, but then saw one of her mates later on and was like 'wheres xxx', she was like 'i dunno i've lost her, do you want her msn? I think she likes you', i was like 'i was after her number', she was like 'i've only actually got her msn' so i took her msn and added her, we'll see what comes of that, i reckon she's a good prospect.

So: Days 1
Numbers 0
Emails 1
Rejections 1

From tomorrow, I'm going to start taking chances and closing/hitting on girls even when i'm not confident of success, cos i reckon thats what the idea is of facing rejection.

Good luck to everyone else who's doing this, i admire the guy who said he's going up to girls in malls in front of their friends and hitting on them, that takes balls.
 

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Week 4, Wed

I had today off so was able to go out and get 3 rejections. The first rejection was quite interesting. I was at Walmart and saw this lady with a nice figure. I failed the 3 second rule but I kept following her until I work up the courage. Finally I did and as I was about to approach she was at the kid section picking out the baby outfits. I stop and was like "damn, nevermind". Then I realize I'm not trying to get her, but just wanted a rejection. So I went up to her anyways and turns out the baby clothes was for someone else but she's married though. Second rejection was when I was eating at a restaurant... I ask the waitress to a movie and got shot down. 3rd rejection was a girl I kinda know and she turn me down for a date.

I could have gotten alot more rejections but I chicken out so many times haha. When I see a girl and then suddenly a few people is around her I get intimidated from approaching. But if a girl is alone and no one is around, I have zero fear. I need to work up the courage to approach girls when people may watch me bomb.

This week is definitely hard. So the score is 4 down and 6 more to go.
 

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Originally posted by johnm420
ya 2 rejections down

im walken on the street see this hot girl and i go hey baby your looken mighty fine are your parents retarded cuz your pretty special leme have your digets.
of couse i got rejected got laughed at by her and the friends walken with her
:crackup: Arh well...
 

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FR: W4D3 - RBB's final hour

Well it's looks as if I'm not gonna have anymore time out on the field with you guys. At least til week 5ish. But on my final day til my radioactive hibernation, I had some rejections to get me.

11am. Abouts.

I went to the mall determined to get my 10 rejections. But not without aiming to get their digits first. I was dressed to kill, bringing Funky Munky out with me. I dabbed on some T Girl. A sample of Tommy Hilfiger girl cologne I got with my Kiton. It's cool to use girl smells, Mystery sez so.

First up I went to an artsy shop. It was decked out with weirded jewelry imported from all corners of the globe. I especially thought it was a great place to get slammed down by some weird arse artsy chicks. As I was walking in I eyed a HB6 brunette rocker chick, nice face but a lil bottom heavy.

Me: Hey, I'm looking to get a bracelet to compliment my punk style. You look like you know what you're doing.
-It was a stupid opener-
HB6: *smiles* I don't work here.
Me: Oh yea? Heh, my bad. But seeing as I already asked you, what do you reckon?

She pointed to a black leather one with metal things on it but it was $50 fukken bucks! Not worth it. I asked her about a badge that was on her bag and she told me it was her fav band. Metal band. I asked her when she got into metal music and we started talking about music. What's good and what's not. The conversation somehow got to about work and crap so I wanted to jet.

Me: Oh hey, I'm gonna get going. But why don't we continue this conversation some time?
HB6: Okay. But I've got a bf.
-bf destroyer ensued..-
Me: Hahaha... doesn't your bf let you have friends? That's very controlling.
HB6: Oh yeah. He does.
Me: Let's trade numbers.
-too easy-

I hand her my mobile and she hands me hers. I realise I somehow turned the tables on her by giving her the line, "Doesn't your bf let you have friends?" it meant I just wanted to be friends and she was the one who was thinking about a relationship. It's a little psychology thing as if saying, "I wasn't thinking about picking you up! But AH-HAH!! You were thinking about it! You're dirty!" When she punched her number in I looked over and say "Oh, so you're Amy" and she laughs and asks for my name.

Leaving the artsy shop I felt great! It wasn't til I grabbed some lunch in the food court I realised I wasn't getting my BC goals finished. So I look at the woman by herself sitting on the table next to mine and say;

Me: Hey, you're lunch looks yummy!
HBmilf: Yeah, it is. I got it at the shop over there. Yours look great as well.
-still off the high I wanted to crash and burn, she wasn't THAT good anyways-
Me: Can I ask you a quick question?
-ala Pugs-
HBmilf: Yes..
Me: Are you single?
HBmilf: No I'm engaged.. But I'm flattered.
-shows me THE finger, ring finger that is, I wasn't looking heh-

Trying to reclaim my status, (cos I realise I have to sit here and spend the next 10mins finishing my lunch) I say "Yeah, me too. But I never wear my ring cos I'mma playah. Oprah warns you about me." Luckily she laughs and talks about Dr. Phil crap a bit before she leaves. Awkward 10 minutes there..

I went home and popped in the local library for some books and DVDs. I need some crap to kill time while I'm in isolation now..

I walk in and tell UGfat library girl that I'm looking for books by Neil Strauss. UGfat was probably mid twenty and looked as if she was in need of a guy in her life. She reeked of desperation. But as soon as I went up to the counter she lifted her head and beamed a great big smile at me. I felt weirded out. She searched for the author and read a loud one of the titles.

HBfat: The Game - Penetrating the Secret Society of Pick-up Artists.
Me: Hahahaha.. I've read that one. Has he got any others?
HBfat: *laughs* Really? Is it good?
Me: Want me to try some pick up lines on ya?
-I don't know what I was thinking. Maybe I felt like I could provide her with some much needed flirtation in her life-
HBfat: *laughs to loud for a library* OK.
Me: Tell me what other books he has written and I'll give you my number.
HBfat: The Dirt.
Me: Here, 911. (for international purposes) Cos I'm a bad boy baby..
HBfat: Hahaha.. nice try.

The Dirt wasn't in so I left with a Bart Simpson book and 2 DVDs. I felt bad for leading her on. Last time I hit on fat chicks.... *shudder*

Tally:
1 rejection
1 number
1 regretable guy for talking to fat chicks

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I wanted to get my 10 rejections but I guess I felt to 'good' to get them. If I'm not getting anywhere and not getting IOIs from her, I simply don't close the deal. I guess this lowers my rejection rate then. I can see 2 ways I can do this week's exercises.

1) Get 10 rejections on purpose to see how good it is to go for the numbers.
~Tasting the negativity of failing on purpose so it gives you the drive to perfect/improve your game. I guess it is making you see which side's grass is greener.
-Crash and burn-


2) On the way to getting 10 rejections you would obtain a few numbers.
~Test your game and approach HB9/9.9s. See the limitation of your skills and improve accordingly.
-Trial and error-

Arh well.. now I have to wait to get the 'all clear' from the doc.
 

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It's a little psychology thing as if saying, "I wasn't thinking about picking you up! But AH-HAH!! You were thinking about it! You're dirty!" When she punched her number in I looked over and say "Oh, so you're Amy" and she laughs and asks for my name."


lol thats a great way of thinking. Nice RBB
 

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Originally posted by In2theGame
lol thats a great way of thinking. Nice RBB
Cheers In2theGame, I remember reading it somewhere on this forum. I'll fish it up for you guys.

Turn the friggin' tables on her. Make her think "Why wasn't this dude interested in dating me?", she no longer has a pedestal, she's not the trophy she thought she was.

Now you suddenly appear on that pedestal as she thinks, "This guy was just really friendly and socialable. He must be content with himself. Centre of the party guy, pure alphaness."

No doubt I was the OTHER guy that she doesn't tell her bf. Infact she was probably thinking about me and that encounter all day, hence adding to the mystery surrounding me. All brownie points!
 

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week #5 lets not get rejected?
 

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Week 4, Thursday

Went to a bar/club. Tons of hot chicks there tonight. Great music. I met a HB7 with a nice smile. We chat it up and dance together. Just when I thought I got her and ask for a number, she said "I don't give my number out." This was the only girl in the club that I had respect for, she didn't dress trashy and had a cute style. I should have use some C&F to raise her attraction, instead of building rapport so soon.

Oh well that's 5 rejections total. 5 more to go.

Next week will probably be the toughest week and I'm sure I'll be stuck in that week for a long time haha.
 

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how about we do a week # 4.a where we collect 10 nos. because Ive read that week 5 is about getting dates?


Whatcha think shezz and the rest?
 

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Originally posted by scorpio king
how about we do a week # 4.a where we collect 10 nos. because Ive read that week 5 is about getting dates?


Whatcha think shezz and the rest?
Well in week 4, besides getting rejections, the hidden goal was to get #s along the way. Week five is to focus on going on the first date with the numbers you've collected. If you have not collected any number during week 4, which mean you got rejected 100%, then you should focus on better approaches to get the #s and also do more approaches. Even though I suck, I was able to get 2 #s but I did alot of approaches thus far. I bomb alot of them big time, made too many mistakes but I try and learn from my mistakes. If you haven't notice yet, but there are more than one assignments in the coming weeks ahead, such as keep doing approaches to keep 10 active #s besides going on dates. So there is no need to set another week 4.a as it is already incorperated in the following weeks.

Week 5 is where it all begins, we start focusing on success and work toward that goal, refining our game, fear no rejections and go after what we like. Keep doing it until we are good.
 
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