Bootcamp started on June 10

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Week 2, Day 4

i missed the party because the game went on to long. I went to a chinese restaurant and struck a convo with a guy who has a son who plays ball. Talked about the games and then I left and ate some chinese food.

I am not happy with today

Conversations 6 left

 

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Week 2, Day 5

I went to church today and sat next to this 7. Gave me eye contact and smiled. Thought to myself and said, "Yes, I will start a convo and do a number close." I got done with listening to the preacher talk about fathers day. I said "Hi, I'm Kyle. Whats your name?" She told me hers and I did regular DJ stuff and I would have arose. First, she was only in until tomorrow and was going back home to California and she was 29. I said to myself "oh well, she is not in long enough and to old."

Later I went to a picnic and started a convo with an HB9, a 15 year old, a man dressed as a farmer/cowboy, and the owners house's mom.

I used neg-hits on the HB and she was nice talking to. I said to myself "This time number close." Those plans were smashed effectively by my aunt telling me that this was my first cousin. That killed any chance of me doing anything with her. I just left the party to go to another church get together but could not find it. Which sucked. Oh well

1 conversation to go

 

[asianAss]

my progress so far

Ok here is my status. Sorry I've been gone for so long.

Last week I opened about 10 people. I got very good at opening. Couldn't really sustain a conversation for most of them. But that's a skill in itself.

I found it much easier to open when I was with a wing. We played this game where he would tell me to open this girl, and vice versa. I would just go up to the girl, and say something really lame like "My horoscope said to make friends today." get a ***** ass lock back. I would go back laughing because it was all fun.

I think I should try to apply that when I'm not with my wing, coz it helps a lot. Pretend I've been ordered to go approach the girl. Yes, sir!

I worked on extending my conversations. I learnt that after the opener, if you don't know what to say, pause, think. It's ok! Then continue - "so, ..." It's not as smooth as a PUA, but it's better than nothing.

I made about 4 medium conversations. There was one I just talked and talked and talked. I was bored to death. I thought - "wtf, just ask for her number." guess what? i got her business card, with home, office and hp number. girls continue to amaze me. (it turned out that she keeps on postponing coffee, so kind of a flake, but what the heck - it's a learning experience.)

so this week i go out again, wanting to extend my conversations. guess what? i get approach anxiety. wtf! i thought I was over this. I keep on thinking - what will all the people around us think? I know from past experience they don't care. I tried the 3s rule - I walked up to this girl and my mouth wouldn't open. We were face to face for a second. Haha, now it sounds hilarious.

I'm going to try and try again. I will progress to be a model-****er. I will not die a loser.

Grrrrr.

 

[comic_relief]

Week 2, Day 6

i went out to my ball game, which we did lose. Didnt have time to talk to anyone. No time to talk. Then when I did start talking to somebody from the other team my dad tells me we have to go home. Now that sucks

 

[asianAss]

Comeback

Gritted my teeth and went out today. Determined to get 10 convos. I have 2 convos and 5 openers

Well, the 5th one was like this. I was behind this girl on a travelator. Thought, what the heck, I'll open her. Said "Excuse me". She didn't even flinch. Later I saw her tilting her head ever so slightly, trying to find out if it was really me who said something.

Ok, one of the convos. It was a UG, so maybe I felt more confident. She was wearing a tanktop and high heels. What the heck! I walked directly up to her and asked her about it. She was silent and pretended not to hear. I just looked at her. We had nice fluff after that. My train came and I said I had to go. She said - "nice talking to you."

another wierd approach. on the escalator i told a girl i liked her watch. i think my face was nervous and all. she said "ok". what the hell is ok?

my summary :
1) I still have approach anxiety. I need to warm up by saying 10 loud His to everyone - UGs, dirty old men, whatever. Warms up my voice and my ATTITUDE

2) once I've done that, i need to stick to one opener and 3 routines. need to get convos going. stop boring the girls with weird remarks like "you look tired"

3) maybe. if there's a situational opener, it works better.

not a great comeback but at least i'm heading in the right direction.

towards ****ing models!

 

[asianAss]

so and so

Got major approach anxiety again today. I tried opening a few old women with 'Hi', 'Where are you from?' just to relieve my anxiety. It helped a bit, then got worse. I was not having fun. Maybe coz there weren't many HBs there.

I went back, and saw an AMOG on the train. Tried to eye contact him down, and did, but he didn't seem to mind, and I just kept on getting the feeling he might beat me up. Well, that made my mood even worse.

Then, I opened an HB6 on the bus. "Aren't you a teacher in <school>?" We had a pretty good conversation. Started out lame - about work, then I managed to move it to fashion and some other stuff. No time to #close, and I didn't even try, but I felt good about that.

After that, somehow I met up with some girls and guys in a club. Tried to be upbeat, and some c&f, but i think i gave the impression of being crappy instead. oh well.

I will keep a positive attitude, remember all my positive experiences. they will increase. i'm thinking of having an attitude of improving my frame even if the girl gives a bad response. because i'm not dependent on her.

 

[comic_relief]

Week 2, Day 7

I can't go anywhere right now because my ride is gone but I walk down to a bridge where people swim and a few other places go from time to time but I did manage to finish off week 2. I talked to my new mailman who started this weekend. I made some connections through the world of sports. We talked about regional baseball teams and his uncle, who is an umpire for Teener league. Now I am hoping to go to either Camelback Beach Resort or Knobels this weekend . With all those hot girls I am sure that i would be able to get some convos in with them. Maybe more.

 

[faustus]

Bootcamp weeks 1+2

Ok,
I've been real busy but I'll be posting on my bootcamp results more frequently now. It's going pretty well so far.

Week 1 went fine, it's suprising how little people make eye contact.

Week 2 was fine as well, I went to the modern art gallery to check
out a strange desert-based exhibition and talked to some of the
people hired to watch the sand (they needed human contact) and a few visitors. All conversations went smoothly. 6 of the conversations were about ten minutes, the rest were shorter.

I haven't started on the week 3 tasks yet but I did do a cold
approach on a HB8 on the bus to test my confidence. I think this is a pretty good way to test your mindset if you are thinking like
the 'Great Catch'. Exaggeration always makes things easier. I was
pretty nervous but I got it done.

Jason

 

[asianAss]

another dog day

ok, got approach anxiety again. i sat down and tried to figure things out. said to myself - ok, you know you want hot girls, and when you approach it's always turned out good, so why are you feeling so nervous? i tried to trace it back but i just got worse.

Don't do that. I started walking and made eye contact with people. By the 10th I felt better.

I went to 20 and decided to start on His. The first Hi, I felt better. However, His don't ever work her so I thought let me go on to openers.

That was a mistake. I got approach anxiety again. Got a bit hungry and told myself to go home.

Ok - I can see on hindsight where I went wrong. I hope I get this AFC anxiety **** out of me. I think I need to weed out the AFC roots.

I'm going sarging tomorrow. Gonna get those short convos

 

[faustus]

Approach anxiety

asianAss - I know exactly what you mean, man.

I was thinking today about Pavlov's principle: he was the guy who proved how you could learn to associate two unrelated things in your mind. He took a dog, a plate of food, and a bell, and kept ringing the bell whilst he served the dog food for a couple of weeks. Then he just rang the bell, and the dog still started salivating, despite the fact there was no food.

The dog had learnt to associate the ringing of the bell with the food: so even though there was no food, he still instinctively started to salivate and get hungry even though there was no plate of food.

It's the same in humans. As you know this is the basis of the 'anchoring' technique, and also the basic idea behind almost all advertising: give someone an image with certain meanings for them and then associate it in their mind with a product.

When we used to see HBs we would think nervous thoughts. So I think we've learnt to associate nervous thoughts and actions with HBs. There's no AFC mentality there anymore, but the bell is still being rung, so to speak.

This is what the approach anxiety is all about. Keep going and you will kill it dead. The more you approach the more it subsides.

I'm going through the same thing now. I will kill it.

 

[asianAss]

right, and we ain't no dogz!

 

[asianAss]

today's results

i went out today, full of hope. Did 5 approaches, and was pretty sure I'm confident about approaching.

After this, I try to go to short conversations. I do a total of 3 approaches, and get 1 convo. It's like doing approaches is fine, but for doing approaches with the idea of going into convos is a hell of different for me.

Well, I'll continue either tonite or tomorrow

 

[asianAss]

A good step

Today was a good day. 5 short convos. This is what I learnt.

Going out with a good state is important. You are having fun, it's all a game (or learning experience). There is no failure - only learning what not to do. This will make PU enjoyable, and will get better feedback from the girls.

It doesn't matter what you open with. I was at the bookstore, and a few times I was just thinking - nah, this opener is too crazy. But guess what - just go in, and as you keep on talking, the girls will forget they were interrupted. I mean, all openers are stupid anyway - who the hell interrupts strangers?

It's ok to stop talking, in fact sometimes it's better. Pace the girl. Like, when on the train, I open with a stupid question, she answers. I turn back, silence for a few seconds. She gets over her initial shock, is kind of wondering, is he hitting on me? (Information overflow for the girl - now she is weak haha) I turn again and talk, and now we have the advantage of having already known each other.

Girls are also least comfortable alone. It's actually easier to open a 2-set than a single girl. Less resistance. Most of the fear is from within me, but with practice I am sure that will decrease. But once you open, usually you start talking to just one girl, the other one conveniently disavails herself!!!

 

[asianAss]

in addition

2 other points..

Down here, it's more effective to PU in Chinese, which I'm not good at. I have to work on that. But right now, I just need to get rid of the excuse that I shouldn't approach because people aren't comfortable with English. I read somewhere that it's not what you say, you can PU without even saying anything, just using BL. So that's my answer to a SP.

Similarly, sometimes I don't approach because I say, 'She's not good enough.' Actually, I'm just scared. There are times when I don't even look at the girl - that's really not good enough. The other times I am giving myself excuses, and I need to stop that.

 

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Week 3, Day 1

It has been since wednesday of last week. It is Sunday, today. Not a good day in baseball but this is about women not the sport.

I go to a quaint little restaurant called the sub-shop. I went to eat some food and meet with this one hot chick(first hot chick that I saw since the last time since I posted) that worked there. I knew that she went to my school but never ever talked to her. I talked to her and must have hit it off good because when I got my food. She came back and said "I decided to have some fun with your food." And it had lttle smiley faces made of ketchup on the cheeseburgers. I am sitting there with my dad (and he dislikes me getting a girlfriend because of the fact that he thinks that I will become a "nice guy"(supplicating wimp and such because my brother turned out this way) it is my dads wishes that I at least follow. My only ride to my baseball games are important to me.Plus his mistake was that he got my mother pregant at 18 mom was 16 and he doesn't want me to make the same mistake he did( this might have been the reason for my problem with chicks) and I know what it is like she might be into me . But I talk to her with no problem. I would have asked for her number but my dad was their and would have gotten pissed off. Unfortuanately he was there .

 

[asianAss]

awesome, dude. see, u got out!

i didn't pu today. i still have this fear of what other people think when i open. i must throw that to the wind.

 

[faustus]

Week 3, day 5

My fellow DJs,
Today I had some convo with 4 HBs - none of the convos were were very long, I'm working on that. But it was a good day.

1: This morning I talked to an HB6 who has not seen me since I committed to DJing. I was ****y and funny, told her off for flicking her hair at me. No big conversation but she liked it. I'm gonna talk to her properly tomorrow, watch this opportunity DJs.


2: HB6, spacey but sexy. We were doing a workshop together in Drama, and I did some c+f - verged on negging, made some good-natured jokes directing at her, made her laugh, she kinoed me. May not be in the LJBF zone after all, but this girl knew me back in the AFC days so she's a wild card.


3: HB5 - some awesome c+f on this one. I told her off for making a call in the middle of a group convo, she said it was her boyfriend and I said that he would be upset with her too, smiled when I said it. She blushed but clearly enjoyed it. I said 'relax, relax! I'm only kidding! Jesus!'. No help to my in-depth convo skills but fun though.

4: I could have #closed with a tasty HB6 who was eyeing me and sitting near me loads near the end of the day, but I didn't! *****-slaps for Faustus. I swear that is the last time I miss out on a #close! Every time I miss out on a #close I am going to make myself do 2 extra cold approaches.

It really is all about habit. I think things go way smoother if you think to yourself: I'm going to hit on all good-looking girls.
If you make it an absolute rule then you lose the unproductive piece-of-**** case-by-case approach of the AFCs.

'No, she's not good enough for me. Actually, ooh, I like her tits, hey, maybe... yeah, she's actually an HB8... um... yes... uh... I will approach her... oh but now she sees I'm staring at her... um..' -
No!
'Qualifies as HB. Approach'.
That's the habit I'm working on.

Day 6 is going to be chaos, but Dr. Faustus is resolved to these black arts, so expect convo reports!

IDEA
I go over my version of the DJ 'be a man!' principles, and the ideas I've taken from 'The Magic of Thinking Big' (David J. Schwartz) every day. It takes me about 15 minutes. I seriously recommend looking through a short and simple book of notes like this really briefly first thing every day, it really helps give you the edge in terms of motivation and consistency. Try it.

 

[faustus]

yeah

baseballDJ,

That's your dad's attitute? That sucks! I can understand because my own issues with my parents contributed to my initial problems with chicks.

Remember that every approach or DJ-style move you do, whether it meets your goal or not, is a massive, unexpected middle finger on your part flipped straight at all the bull**** people have tried to fill you with and towards our entire false life-long AFC emotional education. Every DJ move which could have been AFC, however big or small , is a dramatic rejection of these lies and transferred ideas.

Every smile, every convo, everything is you purging yourself of these outside influences.

(Most importantly it's having fun and enjoying life )

I look around and a hell lot of people are completely restricted and defined by their past, and the problems of people who are close to them.

But not us.

Those ketchup smiley-faces are the world smiling on you.

Keep going, DJ!

 

[asianAss]

Good day

Today I decided I'll go back to basics, back to saying 50 His. I figured it will warm me up and boost my morale.

I started saying Hi to everyone I passed by. I think 1 in 50 people replied. It didn't matter. I started soft, and I became louder and more confident. I counted the start anyway. I knew His wouldn't result in anything here, but it was not for them, but for me dammit. I became more relaxed, confident, enthusiastic.

People know you are saying hi to them but they don't respond. I don't care. I am on the road to becoming a better PUA. They are dispensable. I stay in a good mood - in fact, it becomes better. I think it is because of my stepping out, and my success.

Around Hi no. 43, I suddenly break out. I am alpha. I know that people around me notice. Unfortunately, a good friend whom I haven't seen for some time calls me out for dinner. I wish I could go on to opening after that, but I'll do the whole stream on Saturday I guess.

After dinner, it's back to PUA school. I restart the His. My mood is not totally gone but not as perfect. It's 9pm and the mall's pretty empty. Oh well, I go back and open on the subway.

I have 2 5-min convos on the subway with girls I would date. This is a major breakthrough, because there are always people around and I am always scared of major shame if I get rejected in front of people. But today I am on a roll; I am in the mood!

And I realised that once you start talking, you don't care what people think. And I even stop talking and face my BL away as if it don't matter. A minute later, I just restart "so, ..." I am in natural mood. And I make the girls feel good

Right now, I am probably boring them. But everyone in the subway knows I am an alpha. Later, I will work on good state and making them laugh after the small talk. Right now, I am just working on the first 2 min, and not freaking out because I'm scared of it.

Every day you go out, is a step to PUAhood. It could be a big step, or a small step. But even not having 'success' is a step, because you are learning. Which means we will eventually get there. And knowing that makes me feel good!

 

[faustus]

Week 4

I like asianAss's idea of warming up with basic stuff before you open on women. It's also good to have a DJ scorecard, and tick off the numbers/rejections as you get them. Initially.

Got my 1st rejection. I tried that 'I find you very attractive, and if you aren't seeing anyone at the moment, I thought we could go out' approach, which I don't think is effective unless you're really alpha and direct in a powerful way. HB5 rejected me but smiled a lot afterwards, I think I made her day.

Ha ha ha ha ha

Anyway. It was a good experience. I handled the rejection
real smooth, and didn't feel anything when I walked away, I just laughed and bought myself a classic italian hot sandwich.

All good.