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Colossus said:
After all if we're so confident in our 'game', then pulling single women should be no problem....hmm..
I don't approve of messing around with married women. But it's not hard to see the temptation.

Especially once you get to a certain age, most women are married. And the most attractive women, the ones that catch your eye, are married. And it seems like the ones who are throwing out the most IOIs are married, too.
 

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Suppose you're at a bar and hook up with some chick. She tells you she's married but it's obvious that you're gonna fvck her at the end of the night if you continue gaming her.

Are you supposed to drop her right there and try to find another chick in the bar, one who's not married?

That's bullsh!t, if you ask me... You might not score another chick that night at all and then you will be sorry you didn't go for the married one.

What if I'm sitting on the train to work and open a girl sitting opposite of me, who turns out to be married but is obviously down to fvck? Excuse me, but I'm not a super DJ who knows he can find himself another, unmarried, girl the very next day so I can safely reject the married one sitting in front of me in the train right now, knowing that I will score a better, unmarried girl later that day or the next day. To make a long story short, I think it's ridiculous to pass up the opportunity to bang a married chick. Sure, if there are two chicks trying to get it on with me at the same moment, I will prefer the unmarried one. And if I'm spinning two plates and have to discard one and keep the other, I will prefer to keep the unmarried girl and discard the married one. But apart from such particular circumstances, it would be ridiculous to pass by on the opportunity to fvck a married woman.

Why would it have to be if/if?? Like you either go for single girls or you go for married girls? Why not fvck the married woman you meet today and ALSO fvck the single woman you meet tomorrow? The argument that there are plenty of single girls out there so you shouldn't have to lower your standards and fvck married women makes no sense to me. First of all, I don't think I'm lowering my standard by fvcking married women and second of all, even if I fvck married women, I will still go for those plenty single girls AS WELL.
 

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Die Hard said:
Suppose you're at a bar and hook up with some chick. She tells you she's married but it's obvious that you're gonna fvck her at the end of the night if you continue gaming her.

Are you supposed to drop her right there and try to find another chick in the bar, one who's not married?

That's bullsh!t, if you ask me... You might not score another chick that night at all and then you will be sorry you didn't go for the married one.
One thing I've never understood about some guys around here is the urgency they seem to have where they have to get laid tonight. Where it seems like they have to get the ONS or nothing. I mean I do remember when I was in my early 20s and it seemed like every day lasted forever, like it was a whole world unto itself.

But it seems to me there are more important things than getting your d!ck wet. There's been pvssy before, there will be pvssy again, right? Is it so important that you compromise your principles for it, just so you can have some immediate gratification? Where's the patience?

Just because the woman has no principles, doesn't mean that I don't. You can't depend on woman to provide your principles, they are not the source of them.

On the other hand, I can see the argument that if the woman doesn't care about her vows, why should you? I know in certain situations, a married woman can look awfully appealing. But if the woman is that big of a sleaze, that can be a turn off, too. I wouldn't feel comfortable with the idea of setting to bag any woman, married or not. That's not a worthy goal for me.
 

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double post, see below...
 

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zekko said:
One thing I've never understood about some guys around here is the urgency they seem to have where they have to get laid tonight. Where it seems like they have to get the ONS or nothing.
If that is aimed at me, you just totally don't understand the meaning of my last few posts.
 

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If that is aimed at me, you just totally don't understand the meaning of my last few posts.
That was not entirely aimed at you, but you did say this:

Suppose you're at a bar and hook up with some chick. She tells you she's married but it's obvious that you're gonna fvck her at the end of the night if you continue gaming her.

Are you supposed to drop her right there and try to find another chick in the bar, one who's not married?

That's bullsh!t, if you ask me... You might not score another chick that night at all and then you will be sorry you didn't go for the married one.
Aren't you saying that it's better to bang the married chick than to go without for one night? You are talking specifically about one night.

Anyway, I'm not trying to cast judgements on you brother. I've said I understand the allure of the married woman. I confess I've banged married women before. I'm not proud of it. I would rather not do so in the future, but you never know what tomorrow will bring. You know what they say: "Never say never".
 

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zekko said:
Aren't you saying that it's better to bang the married chick than to go without for one night? You are talking specifically about one night.
I guess you really don't understand the point I was trying to make. I wasn't comparing banging a married chick vs. banging nothing, I was comparing banging a married chick vs. passing up on her coz you should go for single girls (which is basically what Colossus implied and my post was a response to that).

I would have no problem with you passing judgment on me, man (as long as it's delivered in a mature manner, of course). I just thought the context of my statements was pretty obvious, so the talk about 'being desperate to get laid the same night' felt a bit unjust.

Anyway, that's one part of the discussion (banging married chicks or passing up on them coz you should go for single girls) and I think it's a needless part. Like I explained, you can just go for both! Fvcking a married women will not prevent you from fvcking a single woman, except if they both demand you fvck them at the same time, lol. So Colossus' point and this part of the discussion really don't make any sense.

The point makes no sense. It would make sense if you add another element to the equation, namely: the idea that you are degrading yourself when you bang a married chick. I really already adresssed this idea in my earlier post, but I guess I'll do it again: If you are not looking for a relationship and sexual satisfaction is all you're after, then banging a married chick is not degrading yourself. It's not like the sex won't be good just because the girl is married, right? If she fvcks good and looks good (the latter nullifies 5string's comparison with fvcking an ug or a fatty and his subsequent claim that fvcking married chicks is about being desperate), then you haven't compromised anything, you just had great sex with a handsome woman!

Feeling like you've degraded yourself by fvcking a married woman, can only stem from the idea that she is someone else's woman and she won't be yours. The other guy has a relationship with her (no, he's even married to her!), he's the one lying next to her in bed every night, having dinner with her every night, etc. etc. He is the one who has a 'meaningful relationship' with her. You.....just get her for a moment of sexual pleasure. The idea that you should be able to do better than that and find your OWN woman, that's the idea that would make you feel like you degraded yourself by fvcking a married woman.

But like I said, if you just consider fvcking a married woman as exactly that: FVCKING A WOMAN... Then there's no reason to feel like you've degraded yourself whatsoever or regard it as an act of desperation.

So to any of you who ascribe desperation to the act of fvcking a married woman: I think you are being ignorant. By fvcking a married woman, I do not prevent myself from fvcking single women, neither do I degrade myself (since I regard the sex with her just as sex and don't care about having a meaningful reltionship with her or whatever).

Zekko, you said:

Is it so important that you compromise your principles for it, just so you can have some immediate gratification? Where's the patience?
What principles??? Could you present a principle to me (important: one that makes sense!) that I would be breaking when I fvck a married chick?
 

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Die Hard said:
I just thought the context of my statements was pretty obvious, so the talk about 'being desperate to get laid the same night' felt a bit unjust.
To be clear, I was not trying to say you are so desperate that you have to get laid the same night. The bit about the one night stands were referring more to a general attitude by some around here. As I said, my comments were not entirely aimed at you.

My intent in posting is not to try to refute what you are saying, or to try to convince you of something. I'm just giving my viewpoint. Kind of like "Look lads, we're discussing this, here's what I think".

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What principles??? Could you present a principle to me (important: one that makes sense!) that I would be breaking when I fvck a married chick?
My personal conviction is that I should not screw married women. You may not share that conviction, but obviously you did react with some disappointment when you found the girl in the original post was married. You must find something wrong with it.

As I said, in my weakness I have given in to the temptation of having sex with married women. You might well call me a hypocrite for that, I have it coming. Unfortunately I have not always lived up to what I have aspired to.

Why I think it's bad to screw married women:
1) Complications. An extreme example would be getting shot by an enraged husband. It happens.
2) The Golden Rule. When I was married, I wouldn't have appreciated some guy screwing my wife. I didn't mind if guys would hit on her, that just goes along with being an attractive woman. If a guy is macking on her heavy, that's disrespectful. Although if anything happens, obviously she bears the responsibility.
3) A woman cheating on her husband is a vile act. I don't want to be involved in it or be her accomplice. You could look at that as degrading yourself.
4) You might think this is silly, and maybe it is. But I find the idea of screwing some woman who is getting fvcked by other guys disgusting. Obviously this sort of thing can't always be avoided, especially when you're in your 20s and playing the hookup game. But I don't think this repulsion is entirely unnatural. That's one good thing about monogamy anyway (not talking about lifetime monogamy here).
 

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5string said:
Can't men refrain from fvcking married women? Sorry, a man must be very desperate to sleep with a taken woman when there are so many available that are single. Anything for a little poon I suppose, anything. :nono:
i find that often times now married women act as single women should act. and single women act like they're married. :confused:
 

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Die Hard said:
Suppose you're at a bar and hook up with some chick. She tells you she's married but it's obvious that you're gonna fvck her at the end of the night if you continue gaming her.
That's where I walk away, or ask her does she have single friends. I've had girls who were married or in relationships pick me up in bars. After dodging disgruntled husbands and jumping off balconies, I screen for married chics and give them a wide berth. Hell one night in a bar I met a couple for Alaska, the wife takes my phone when I'm not looking, starts sending me dirty texts while sitting next to her husband and his buisness partner. She was cute but I just refused to play. I didn't even return her texts while sitting next to her. Nope. Not playing that game. The candle isn't worth the light.
 

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Die Hard said:
I sometimes run into dry spells and might not have any wortwhile girl in my life for 2 months.

So your dry spells are only 2 months long on the average, and you still think you didn't reach that super-DJ level?

I believe if that were strictly true,you wouldn't even think about messing with married women considering its practical difficulties, as Collossus said.

I also think the sense of "urgency" is driving your thoughts here.

If you could generate enough play; you would be able to afford these "principles" and strictly obey them in your life.

I believe that having principles is the luxury of "full" and "content" people who have solved their more basic problems and are looking at things from a higher standpoint.
 

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Die Hard said:
Suppose you're at a bar and hook up with some chick. She tells you she's married but it's obvious that you're gonna fvck her at the end of the night if you continue gaming her.

Are you supposed to drop her right there and try to find another chick in the bar, one who's not married?

That's bullsh!t, if you ask me... You might not score another chick that night at all and then you will be sorry you didn't go for the married one.

What if I'm sitting on the train to work and open a girl sitting opposite of me, who turns out to be married but is obviously down to fvck? Excuse me, but I'm not a super DJ who knows he can find himself another, unmarried, girl the very next day so I can safely reject the married one sitting in front of me in the train right now, knowing that I will score a better, unmarried girl later that day or the next day. To make a long story short, I think it's ridiculous to pass up the opportunity to bang a married chick. Sure, if there are two chicks trying to get it on with me at the same moment, I will prefer the unmarried one. And if I'm spinning two plates and have to discard one and keep the other, I will prefer to keep the unmarried girl and discard the married one. But apart from such particular circumstances, it would be ridiculous to pass by on the opportunity to fvck a married woman.

Why would it have to be if/if?? Like you either go for single girls or you go for married girls? Why not fvck the married woman you meet today and ALSO fvck the single woman you meet tomorrow? The argument that there are plenty of single girls out there so you shouldn't have to lower your standards and fvck married women makes no sense to me. First of all, I don't think I'm lowering my standard by fvcking married women and second of all, even if I fvck married women, I will still go for those plenty single girls AS WELL.
This is not the point. What is the point is that by fvcking a married woman, you can ruin a family, children, an AFC husband and otherwise fvck up several people at one time. Just for some poon? Just to get your d!ck wet? How fvcking desperate are we as men?

This subject comes up all the time on SS. It's ok to get the poon. Just don't fvck up other peoples lives by doing so. When you bang a married woman, there is a significant chance that what I said above will happen. Been there, seen it.
 

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Hope you're true to your alias, Die Hard, cos you will need to, if you keep trying to nail married chicks.
 

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Well, to each his own opinion... I'm not really trying to bang a married chick and never did before. But if I ever get in the position to do so, I don't think I'm gonna pass on it.

Anyway, at this point there's a good chance I'll be fvcking a mom pretty soon. That would be a first for me as well, haha. It's the one I was talking about, that put my hand on her chest to feel her heart racing. And don't worry, she's divorced ;)

But I'm still wondering if any of you could tell me what her pvssy will look like since she's already had three kids come out of there... I'm sure some of the more mature men around here have fvcked women who gave birth to several children, would you care to enlighten me on this?
 

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5string said:
This is not the point. What is the point is that by fvcking a married woman, you can ruin a family, children, an AFC husband and otherwise fvck up several people at one time. Just for some poon? Just to get your d!ck wet? How fvcking desperate are we as men?

This subject comes up all the time on SS. It's ok to get the poon. Just don't fvck up other peoples lives by doing so. When you bang a married woman, there is a significant chance that what I said above will happen. Been there, seen it.
^^ This.

Not to mention the strong possibilty of physical retaliation on the husband's part. But what 5string says here is the real deal.
 

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It will resemble the hallway leading to your homeroom in your high school.
ROFL! You mean as WIDE as the hallroom or as MESSY? Would you advice me to turn the lights off before I pull her panties down? :D
 

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ROFL! You mean as WIDE as the hallroom or as MESSY? Would you advice me to turn the lights off before I pull her panties down? :D
Strap a 2x4 to your a$$ so you don't fall in. :p
 
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