blacks talking sh!t about there own culture

[VikingKing]

BILL HAS GONE AND DONE IT AGAIN...

They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English.
I can't even talk the way these people talk:
Why you ain't,
Where you is,
What he drive,
Where he stay,
Where he work,
Who you be...
And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk.
And then I heard the father talk.
Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth.
In fact you will never get any kind of job making a decent living.

People marched and were hit in the face with rocks to get an Education, and now we've got these knuckleheads walking around.
The lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal.
These people are not parenting. They are buying things for kids.
$500 sneakers for what?
And they won't spend $200 for Hooked on Phonics.

I am talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit.
Where were you when he was 2?
Where were you when he was 12?
Where were you when he was 18 and how come you didn't know that he had a pistol?
And where is the father? Or who is his father?
People putting their clothes on backward:
Isn't that a sign of something gone wrong?
People with their hats on backward, pants down around the crack, isn't that a sign of something?

Isn't it a sign of something when she has her dress all the way up and got all type of needles [piercing] going through her body?
What part of Africa did this come from??
We are not Africans. Those people are not Africans; they don't know a thing about Africa .....

I say this all of the time. It would be like white people saying they are European-American. That is totally stupid.
I was born here, and so were my parents and grand parents and, very likely my great grandparents. I don't have any connection to Africa, no more than white Americans have to Germany , Scotland , England , Ireland , or the Netherlands . The same applies to 99 percent of all the black Americans as regards to Africa . So stop, already! ! !
With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all of that crap ......... And all of them are in jail.

Brown or black versus the Board of Education is no longer the white person's problem.
We have got to take the neighborhood back.
People used to be ashamed. Today a woman has eight children with eight different 'husbands' -- or men or whatever you call them now.
We have millionaire football players who cannot read.
We have million-dollar basketball players who can't write two paragraphs. We, as black folks have to do a better job.
Someone working at Wal-Mart with seven kids, you are hurting us.
We have to start holding each other to a higher standard..
We cannot blame the white people any longer.'

~Dr.. William Henry 'Bill' Cosby, Jr., Ed..D.

 

[Jaylan]

The poundcake speech, a decade later. Either youre very very late on news or clearly race baiting. I guess we were due for another thread like this.

:yawn:

I wonder why the different ethnic minorities here don't bother creating race threads in the Anything Else forum.

 

[Jaylan]

Most of them are starting threads on "how to get the white girl". I would say that counts as a race thread. Who cares which part of the forum it actually is in. Race threads are race threads.

Oh please. We know damn well what the difference is. Those threads in the DJ section are dating threads, and a lot of the men either tell the OP to deal with what life gave him and buck up...or hes told ways how to change his dating options. Threads created here in the Anything Else forum are always by some white dude trying to get a negative dialogue started on black culture. Thats the difference between the threads in both sections.

The DJ section has minority men trying to do better with the most numerous demographic of women in the country. The Anything Else section has white dudes who cannot seem to cease creating negative discussions about black people (always black people too). And in these threads theres always some flames and insults to be found (aka trolling race bait).

Anyways, thats all Ill add to this thread. Ill grab my popcorn and see if this decade old speech (which has been discussed to death) will actually create a decent intellectual discussion. Im not counting on it based on the thread's title.

 

[Bokanovsky]

"Talking sh!t" implies an unjustified criticism. He's not talking sh!t. He's speaking the truth. The worst thing that has ever happened to America is the "africanization" of the American culture (a process that has arguably started in the 20's and 30's but has really gained steam in the past couple decades). These days, "black culture" is not only holding back black people but is negatively affecting other races as well.

Banning MTV and BET would do a lot more to help out the black community than all the affirmative action and Obamacare in the world.

 

[goldengoose]

What's the point of this thread? Bill Cosby likes his Jello but he isn't talking sh1t. He is trying to educate blacks by giving them a kick in the ass in life. Successful black men praised him for speaking out like this. Uneducated people feel it is sh1t talking. I'm glad that Bill Cosby is doing something to get his message across. He's passed his prime so I doubt he will have any effect. Other blacks have done the same besides him. Check out Richard Pryor's old comedy albums from the 70's, he used the "N Word" all the time. People laughed and thought it was funny, even blacks.

Most of them are starting threads on "how to get the white girl". I would say that counts as a race thread. Who cares which part of the forum it actually is in. Race threads are race threads.

"Most of them"? Do those threads anger you Danger?

Oh please. We know damn well what the difference is. Those threads in the DJ section are dating threads, and a lot of the men either tell the OP to deal with what life gave him and buck up...or hes told ways how to change his dating options. Threads created here in the Anything Else forum are always by some white dude trying to get a negative dialogue started on black culture. Thats the difference between the threads in both sections.

The DJ section has minority men trying to do better with the most numerous demographic of women in the country. The Anything Else section has white dudes who cannot seem to cease creating negative discussions about black people (always black people too). And in these threads theres always some flames and insults to be found (aka trolling race bait).

Anyways, thats all Ill add to this thread. Ill grab my popcorn and see if this decade old speech (which has been discussed to death) will actually create a decent intellectual discussion. Im not counting on it based on the thread's title.

Jaylan hit the nail on the head.

 

[ArcBound]

Half the threads on race in the DJ section are negative discussions about how white men have it so easy and black men/indian men/chinese men have it so hard. That goes beyond dating, those race baiting threads are trying to talk about "privilege" without actually using the word. And heck some of the many jeweled stars members protect the OP and agree with the OP. So I really can't see how you can side with those threads then when a thread comes like this, suddenly race is off limits.

Personally, I think this sh!t is boring, but you really can't have it both ways. Either all race is up for talk or none of it is, and the so suave moderators decide that, not me or you if you are offended. Lastly to avoid all race baiting threads whether in the DJ forum or Anything Else, don't click the read button.

 

[Jaylan]

I guess we can give OP his money's worth in this thread lol

I do agree with most of your post here.

With the exception that there are a LOT of posts by minorities posting specifically about trying to get white women.

Additionally this IS the anything else section, so if race can be discussed in one area, why not in the Anything Else section as well? That is the point of Anything Else, is it not?

Lastly, we know how passionately anti-white you are, stemming all of the way back to the Russian Ukraine displacement post where it drove you crazy that a white guy should even bring up the concern of displacement from their homelands.

Yes, how anti-white of me to point out the typical "lets criticize black culture" thread that pops up frequently in the AE forum of Sosuave. How anti-white of me to show a disinterest in debating the hypocrisy and arrogance of displacement arguments in that lame Ukraine thread. (which was yet another thread that got derailed into talking about minorities)

My point was that people need to drop this race bullsh!t, especially white dudes like noobology and speeddawg who love creating these threads. Those two are the ones who usually create these race bait threads.

Half the threads on race in the DJ section are negative discussions about how white men have it so easy and black men/indian men/chinese men have it so hard. That goes beyond dating, those race baiting threads are trying to talk about "privilege" without actually using the word. And heck some of the many jeweled stars members protect the OP and agree with the OP. So I really can't see how you can side with those threads then when a thread comes like this, suddenly race is off limits.

Personally, I think this sh!t is boring, but you really can't have it both ways. Either all race is up for talk or none of it is, and the so suave moderators decide that, not me or you if you are offended. Lastly to avoid all race baiting threads whether in the DJ forum or Anything Else, don't click the read button.

Who said anyone is siding with threads? I was pointing out the difference in the message and tone of both kinds of threads. They are largely different. The dating threads are not about having a negative discussion about white men. Its about highlighting the differences in dating success based on race (which does affect dating). Sometimes the OP really wants to fix things in his dating life...other times the OP is an obvious troll. Juxtaposed these threads in the Anything Else forum which are almost always about black people, and always about creating a negative discussion about black culture. They serve no helpful purpose.

And even with difference, I go into those dating threads and tell the OP to stop obsessing over it...despite agreeing with some points. The dating threads are to help a man accomplish more in his dating life, if he is indeed capable of being helped. The thread in the Anything Else forum...are about what really? Its usually just a circle jerk of a particular group of white dudes on this forum who think they are experts on black culture and sociology.

What's the point of this thread? Bill Cosby likes his Jello but he isn't talking sh1t. He is trying to educate blacks by giving them a kick in the ass in life. Successful black men praised him for speaking out like this. Uneducated people feel it is sh1t talking. I'm glad that Bill Cosby is doing something to get his message across. He's passed his prime so I doubt he will have any effect. Other blacks have done the same besides him. Check out Richard Pryor's old comedy albums from the 70's, he used the "N Word" all the time. People laughed and thought it was funny, even blacks.

THIS ad infinitum.

 

[BetterCallSaul]

"Talking sh!t" implies an unjustified criticism. He's not talking sh!t. He's speaking the truth. The worst thing that has ever happened to America is the "africanization" of the American culture (a process that has arguably started in the 20's and 30's but has really gained steam in the past couple decades). These days, "black culture" is not only holding back black people but is negatively affecting other races as well.

Banning MTV and BET would do a lot more to help out the black community than all the affirmative action and Obamacare in the world.

A lot of this can be traced to LBJ's term in office and the whole Great Society debacle. The fed.gov began to financially subsidize black households with single moms, thereby creating incentive for the man to stay out. We can see the results of this today in many major cities everywhere.

 

[FairShake]

He's not wrong. I bet most middle and working class black people agree by the way.

The problem is white people using this speech as a cudgel to hit black people in the head over and over and over again. Conservative white people pulling out this speech is the slightly classier equivalent of the guy who mentions that his best friend is black before launching into Chris Rock's "N!ggers vs N!ggas" routine to explain himself.

 

[goldengoose]

Jaylan said minorities aren't creating race threads in the Anything Else section.


I pointed out that race threads WERE being created by minorities and what they usually entail. And that who cares which section it is in?


Jaylan just hates ANYTHING that either posits something which should concern white America or that can be perceived as bad about blacks.

While I will defend the argument that we should not judge all blacks based on a sub-segment of them, I will not shrink back from someone who seems to think his race has carte-blanche to discuss their issues but other races (especially whites) do not.

Since you carefully avoided my question I will take that as a yes?

I wasn't asking you your opinion of what you think about Jaylan. I was asking you if interracial dating threads anger you. To which you ignored.

This is DJ discussion forum and plenty of men from other races are going to want to bang white women if they are attracted to them. So no, those aren't "race threads" just because a person posting is not white. A race thread is something like this that is useless of no importance or someone using "race" in a thread just to start a fight.

Interracial dating exists so get over it. In fact, a lot of chicks who use online dating are banging dudes out of their race to experiment. Black chicks want white dudes, white chicks are banging black guys, and so on.

 

[Jaylan]

Jaylan said minorities aren't creating race threads in the Anything Else section.

I pointed out that race threads WERE being created by minorities and what they usually entail. And that who cares which section it is in?

Jaylan just hates ANYTHING that either posits something which should concern white America or that can be perceived as bad about blacks.

While I will defend the argument that we should not judge all blacks based on a sub-segment of them, I will not shrink back from someone who seems to think his race has carte-blanche to discuss their issues but other races (especially whites) do not.

Come on now. Read FairShake's post. Its spot on. The problem isnt that I have an issue with these things being discussed. Its about the kind of people who discuss them, and how the conversation is conducted. The people creating these threads on this forum arent concerned with minority communities becoming better...these threads are just a launch pad for a circle jerk of whining and putting down minorities. And the frequency of these threads from the usual bunch shows us all what the motive of these threads are.

If these threads were created by people who actually cared about the betterment of various minority communities, I wouldnt take issue with them. And if these threads included intellectual conversation and constructive dialogue, I would take no issue with it. The problem I have, like Ive said before, is that these threads are usually created by folks here who clearly have axes to grind. And the words and tones of their past posts make that clear.

I agree with your statement on black culture and if you go back you can read my defense on that subject.

But let's be honest here, you get your panties wound up ANY time a white guy posts an issue that faces his race AND you got your panties in a wad in that example by basically saying "White men deserve it". Which of course is ANYTHING other than "Debating hypocrisy".

Dont put words in my mouth. Your problem is that you always do that. You seem unable to read someones post without injecting your own assumptions into what they said.

With regard to that other thread that you can never seem to let go of, my main point was that it would be largely hypocritical for colonizing nations to now tell immigrants from their former colonies to get out. Especially considering the colonizers were once immigrants on foreign soil who did what was in the best interest of themselves, not the locals.

When you colonize areas of the globe, it creates a link for generations to come. There are cultural links and movement links (immigration). Does it mean I think its ok for anyone to go into someone elses neighborhood and refuse to assimilate or follow rules? No. But it does mean I at least recognize the consequences of national conquest and oppression of a colonized people. And heck, because of the colonizing spree Western Europe went on in history...now people from all over the globe are going all over Europe.

Also, I find it rather telling that certain folks have all these concerns about what immigrants do in first world nations, but turn blind eye to what first world nations presently do, or have done in the past, to the homelands of people not lucky enough to be born on first-world soil.

 

[Tictac]

Grow up race-baiters.

Get over yourselves.

 

[Rubirosa]

..........THEIR own culture..

not

.........."there own culture.."

 

[ArcBound]

Who said anyone is siding with threads?

I did. People in the threads supported them at times when they say **** about whites.

I was pointing out the difference in the message and tone of both kinds of threads. They are largely different.

Not largely different

The dating threads are not about having a negative discussion about white men.

Except when they are

Its about highlighting the differences in dating success based on race (which does affect dating).

The type of thread you are talking about I've seen the least

https://www.google.com/search?q=sos...w.sosuave.net&client=safari&rls=en&gws_rd=ssl

 

[Jaylan]

^In what way is it negative to point out the reality that many women will date a white guy before other races of men? Thats not on the same level as threads in the AE section that are meant to harp on the black community. The dating threads present the premise that white men can generally bed women easier. The Anything Else threads are all about highlighting the worst of minorities communities.

Do enlighten us as to how those discussions involving race are similar to one another. I think any man or woman would rather people talk about their dating positives instead of constantly harping on their community. For example, you think a Latin man is gonna whine if people are talking about how some women like the idea of a "Latin lover"? Or do you think hes going to be bothered by people constantly bringing up the worst aspect of the poorest latino neighborhoods?

Anyways, with regard to the original post...why does a decade old speech thats been discussed to death by the media, black community, and America at large...deserve a sosuave thread? Its pretty damn common for people to be critical of elements within their community....no matter if that community is racial, gender, ethnic, religious, regional, hobbie based or whatever else. Bill Cosby made some good points, and in the past it spawned some great intellectual discussion. But no one here will be fooled into believing that meaningful discussion is the desired goal of the thread starter.

Oh wells.

 

[ArcBound]

^In what way is it negative to point out the reality that many women will date a white guy before other races of men? Thats not on the same level as threads in the AE section that are meant to harp on the black community. The dating threads present the premise that white men can generally bed women easier. The Anything Else threads are all about highlighting the worst of minorities communities.

Do enlighten us as to how those discussions involving race are similar to one another. I think any man or woman would rather people talk about their dating positives instead of constantly harping on their community. For example, you think a Latin man is gonna whine if people are talking about how some women like the idea of a "Latin lover"? Or do you think hes going to be bothered by people constantly bringing up the worst aspect of the poorest latino neighborhoods?

I'll take some examples from the threads in that google post I linked ya

"Also, if a white male can't get laid he's either not trying, too ugly, or gay. A white male can get laid so easily."

"If you're white, more power to you.

If you're not white like me, then tough luck."

"Or number 3 get their ass kicked unless they're Italian of course, but they were not even considered white for a long period of time. So, then again maybe not." ^In a thread saying all white men are pu$$ie$

How about that black sosauve moderator who said all white people are evil demonic beings separated via a genetic experiment thousands of years? I'm not going to name his name cause hopefully he'd have changed by now. He was serious and tried to defend his views as well.

None of them men mentioned above are banned or in the red, in fact they are in the green. There are more examples, not to mention if I counted all the ones who were negged into red or banned, the examples would take all night to post.

"Anyways, with regard to the original post...why does a decade old speech thats been discussed to death by the media, black community, and America at large...deserve a sosuave thread? Its pretty damn common for people to be critical of elements within their community....no matter if that community is racial, gender, ethnic, religious, regional, hobbie based or whatever else. Bill Cosby made some good points, and in the past it spawned some great intellectual discussion. But no one here will be fooled into believing that meaningful discussion is the desired goal of the thread starter.

Oh wells."

Why do all the posts I've mentioned and more deserve a so suave thread? Most of those threads also did not lead to meaningful discussion, nor was it the goal of the thread starter.

Oh wells.

 

[Jaylan]

^And when particular dating threads dont lead to meaningful discussion, posters call them out for the trolls they are. But also, if the OP isnt a troll, some posters will seek to assist him. Its not as if posters here never admonish the dating race threads.

The problem with threads such as this one is that they always have one sole intended purpose...and that is to race bait. The dating race threads are sometimes troll threads...but a lot of them are simply from frustrated dudes who want to do better with the most numerous demographic of women in this country (white women).

And honestly, Ive said in the past that obvious trolling race threads shouldn't be allowed, no matter what their subject. But race threads seem to be the sort of things mods always let slip by despite the number of times Ive heard it say that race bait threads wouldnt be allowed.

It is what it is I guess.

 

[VikingKing]

"How about that black sosauve moderator who said all white people are evil demonic beings separated via a genetic experiment thousands of years? I'm not going to name his name cause hopefully he'd have changed by now. He was serious and tried to defend his views as well. " Really?

That fvck would look good hanging in my front yard. I mean that too. That just fvcked me up.

I grew up with mostly white people. In fact when I was little, i remember saying to my mom "but dont only black people live in chicago?" She laughed, because she is from chicago.

My mom was my teacher growing up. She used to say this one thing to me over, and over. To judge a man by the content of his character, and not the color of his skin. This was on a poster. I heard this over and over.

It amazes me how racist black americans are. I am one of the least racist people you will meet. I dont even like white women that much.

Before I lived where I live now, I lived in a small city nicknamed little chicago. The community college I went to was mostly black, and if any of you have ever seen my picture I'm one of the whitest people you will ever see. But black people like me a lot, because I like them (if they are cool) and we get along well.

I get it, there WAS discrimination. but guess the fvck what, its over now.

It is black people and liberals that perpetuate the racism that exists in the United States now, Not whites.

And if any minorities want to b!tch and whine like faggots, I think we should give each and every one of them a good reason to.

I mean fvck, black people are just like feminists now. You have more rights than white people. Your almost as lucky as women.



Whiney beta faggots

 

[goldengoose]

I didn't ignore it. I told you WHY I referenced those race threads, whereas you just assumed it was because they anger me.

Yes you did ignore it because you never gave me a real answer. You keep dancing around the question avoiding it.

I can only assume because you won't give a real answer to my question.

Let me ask you again for the third time. Do interracial dating threads anger you? A simple Yes or No answer will do. This isn't that hard.

Don't come back with a long winded explanation avoiding it. Just answer Yes or No to the question.

If it is directed towards a race for any reason, it is a race thread.

What about people who post that are of another race that you don't know about? Is that a race thread too? Any thread can be technically a "race thread" because not everybody posting here is white.

But black people like me a lot, because I like them (if they are cool) and we get along well.

You like black people when you are making racist comments like this?

That fvck would look good hanging in my front yard. I mean that too. That just fvcked me up.

It amazes me how racist black americans are.

It is black people and liberals that perpetuate the racism that exists in the United States now, Not whites.

I mean fvck, black people are just like feminists now.

I get it, there WAS discrimination. but guess the fvck what, its over now.

There is no place for racist talk like this in a forum. This is borderline hate speech right here. Hopefully the moderators will take care of this. You need help son, no wonder you're failing with women, have no car and no job.

 

[VikingKing]

Yes you did ignore it because you never gave me a real answer. You keep dancing around the question avoiding it.

I can only assume because you won't give a real answer to my question.

Let me ask you again for the third time. Do interracial dating threads anger you? A simple Yes or No answer will do. This isn't that hard.

Don't come back with a long winded explanation avoiding it. Just answer Yes or No to the question.





What about people who post that are of another race that you don't know about? Is that a race thread too? Any thread can be technically a "race thread" because not everybody posting here is white.






You like black people when you are making racist comments like this?




There is no place for racist talk like this in a forum. This is borderline hate speech right here. Hopefully the moderators will take care of this. You need help son, no wonder you're failing with women, have no car and no job.

You took my words out of context. I said ""How about that black sosauve moderator who said all white people are evil demonic beings separated via a genetic experiment thousands of years? I'm not going to name his name cause hopefully he'd have changed by now. He was serious and tried to defend his views as well. " Really?

That fvck would look good hanging in my front yard. I mean that too. That just fvcked me up."