Bitter, cynical, jaded, mysogynist, blah, blah

[STR8UP]

You people sound like women.

This is exactly what a woman will try to say when you even come close to bursting their little bubble. The mere hint of logic and biology being a guiding force behind romantic relationships sends women into a tizzy. Mention anything halfway negative regarding "how women tend to be" and WATCH OUT!

Seriously. I read two or three posts earlier today and I'm too lazy to look them up but they struck a chord. Grown ass men using SHAMING tactics on other grown ass men when they are simply calling it like they see it.

There isn't one person on this board who i would consider to be a woman hater, yet you guys make it out like the MM forum is crawling with men seething with anger towards the opposite sex. Where do you get this from? Just because some of us have peeked behind the curtain and refuse to wrap the truth in a pretty little bow does not make anyone a bitter woman hater.

Some of you need to grow up, or grow a pair or something. Maybe turn off Oprah. I honestly don't know, but this "calling people out" crap is getting old.

Stop, please. You really do sound like women.

 

[KontrollerX]

Yep I'm really getting sick of these fvckin pansies too and I let one have it earlier today.

I think these guys learned a lot from this community but still are holding on to their AFC view of women in a way and when someone speaks a little bit too much reality that conflicts with their own personal vision about women they start lashing out about it because it hurts them to know that their fantasies are not real and that even if they get their white picket fence fantasy with some chick some day there is no guarantee that it will last.

We basically point out that there are no guarantees in life and they flip out because it ruins their happily ever after storybook fantasy.

Thats cool though.

Cuz ya know there is an ignore feature here and if they don't like reading reality they can ya know...click on that ignore button for whoever brought the harsh reality to them.

Few choose to use that button though.

Which to me screams out that we've got masochists among the ranks.

Scary.

 

[STR8UP]

Just because I'm willing to acknowledge simple truths - related to the notion that women are homo sapiens and not angels - does not mean I am bitter, or cynical, or hate women.

I like to think of it as another layer of the matrix that even guys who are clued up about women have a hard time getting past.

I understand that nobody wants to think of their woman as a wh0re. that's why that word rarely comes out of my mouth. I don't believe that a woman is a wh0re if she has a one night stand or a threesome or even if she stays with a guy a little longer because she doesn't have rent money.

The delusional ones are always saying "my woman is GOOD. She would never do something like THAT".

Quite a bold statement, but a mans ego is easily deflated. So it is much easier for him to pretend that "this one is different" and point fingers and shout names at the guys who say "Oh yea, I'll bet if you knew half of the things she has done in the past you would dump her in about two minutes".

They call us bitter and whatnot because the truth is a hard pill to swallow.

I love women. I think they are amazing creatures, and I enjoy spending time with them.

Me too!

I love how a woman smells. I love the way they smile coyly at you when they are interested. I love to be next to them and feel their touch.

Okay, this is sounding gay, but you get the point.

But I'm a man, and I yearn to understand, to dissect, to break things down, to identify where MY behavior inhibits or benefits me, and to hear my fellow man's ideas.

I feel ya man.

Psychology and sociology has fascinated me ever since my first sociology class in college. That's probably a good part of the reason why I'm even here.

I come here to discuss topics that I can usually only touch upon with my male friends, and god forbid I mention ANYTHING about this stuff to the women I know! You can't reason with an unreasonable person, and when it comes to this stuff women are notoriously UNreasonable.

That's why I say the guys who keep spouting off about how we are woman haters are a bunch of pu$$ies themselves. Sorry, but it's true. I come here to toss around ideas and theories and maybe even vent A LITTLE from time to time, and probably 25% of the responses are the same bullsh!t I would encounter if I were to mention it to a chick. What's the point? Maybe it's time for another break from this joint

 

[STR8UP]

I can with 100% certainity tell you that the issues presented in this forum are of involvement with western women and do not exist to such an extent in the outer realm of foreign women. You are all doing yourselves a disservice by wasting your energies on the Westernized Female.

And you.....

You are one of the main culprits.

Unfortunately I am tied to my business or I would probably be living in eastern europe exploring ancient roman ruins with a drop dead gorgeous 24 yr old who speaks 4 different languages, plays three different instruments, sings, and paints masterpieces in her spare time, but right now it's not in the cards.

You KNOW how western women are, and you are the first one to point it out, yet you call ME a misogynist?

Get a clue dude.

 

[Colossus]

There are some real bitter guys here, dude, and you know it. I would say any of our 'A-team' posters or the regular roster, but they throw their 2 cents in from time to time. Guys who come out with inane absolutist statements like "North American women are garbage"...

 

[ketostix]

. Grown ass men using SHAMING tactics on other grown ass men when they are simply calling it like they see it.

You really do sound like women.

You have guys doing women's shaming for them on this site no less. Women have trained a lot of men well. I'm glad you called it out STR8UP, I was about to myself. If complaining about the opposite sex no matter what means you're bitter, than all women are bitter. Funny, no one calls women bitter every time they complain and they complain all the time. It's just a shaming tactic that we've covered before.

 

[bigjohnson]

.... Of course, understanding Western women can only help you when traveling to countries where women are a little less....Westernized.

I agree with you except this. I've been around and outside the west a lot of women are genuinely sweet and feminine and 'gaming' as hard as we do here just confuses them.

Most foreign women had mothers who taught them to act like ladies.

 

[STR8UP]

Guys who come out with inane absolutist statements like "North American women are garbage"...

To be perfectly honest....most North American women ARE spoiled brats who have an "entitlement " mentality.

I'm not going to say they are "garbage", they simply have an inflated idea of their market value, and never seem to be satisfied with their "catch"

I have never actually dated a woman from eastern europe, but from my travels to that region I can tell you that the mindset is 180 degrees different from the women here.

Over there you walk down the street and the women literally stop what they are doing to watch you walk by.

You get back to the states and you are nothing more than an anonymous face in a crowd. Women don't pay attention to you here unless you are famous or have movie star good looks.

i guess you could say that the playing field is closer to even over there.

If you deny that fact I can safely assume that you have never been there.

 

[betterthandead]

i bet you're one of those white dorky guys that jock for asian or non-white women. oh yeah they love a tall white dork but only because they've been ****ed left and right by other types. western women probably think the same for you. and do you really want a mama san muy caliente type of girl who can't understand your jokes. that seems kinda mysogynistic if you think about it.

I'm not a mysogynist, neither am I an afc. I am someone who has travelled the world fairly extensively, dated the women and continue to do so. I can with 100% certainity tell you that the issues presented in this forum are of involvement with western women and do not exist to such an extent in the outer realm of foreign women. You are all doing yourselves a disservice by wasting your energies on the Westernized Female.

 

[Colossus]

To be perfectly honest....most North American women ARE spoiled brats who have an "entitlement " mentality.

I'm not going to say they are "garbage", they simply have an inflated idea of their market value, and never seem to be satisfied with their "catch"

I have never actually dated a woman from eastern europe, but from my travels to that region I can tell you that the mindset is 180 degrees different from the women here.

I actually agree with you...generally speaking our culture fosters an 'entitlement' attitude and a flippancy towards men. We've had some great discussions here about how ridiculously high many western women value themselves.

I work at a major academic medical center where there are a TON of foreign women. Harvard seems to have a penchant for students with either an 'illustrious' family legacy or those who can barely speak a sentence of english.

European women, I hove found, are usually more respectful towards men, but you cant compartmentalize them this way. I think you tend to see this with the eastern and rural Europeans; not so much those from metropolitan cities. Ever met a girl from Berlin? B!tches.

My point was there are some of these absolutist clowns on here who buy into these mantras like 'all western women are crap'. It makes our forum look bad.

 

[Vulpine]

If I'm aware of muggings going on, do I hate muggers?

If I'm aware of taxes, does that make me bitter?

If there is a drought, and I'm aware that rain isn't in the forecast, does that make me a cynic?

If I had pizza every day for the last week, and I don't want pizza again, does that make me jaded?




















:yawn:
Do you think I give a ƒlying ƒuck how anyone answered those questions?

 

[azanon]

I believe I'll be more open to hearing the "truth" about American women at such point and time when the average American man is no longer overweight, undereducated, an underachiever, has some kind of emotional problem, poor with financial management, and an AFC. Until then, go whine to someone else.

We can continue to spend time whining, or we can focus on trying to improve ourselves. I'm of the opinion spending time on the latter is more productive and will improve your life more.

 

[ketostix]

I believe I'll be more open to hearing the "truth" about American women at such point and time when the average American man is no longer overweight, undereducated, an underachiever, has some kind of emotional problem, poor with financial management, and an AFC. Until then, go whine to someone else.

This is the dumbest thing I ever heard. Besides being untrue of the average male it wouldn't matter if it were true. You must have not spent any time in say a downtown area of a metropolitan area. Most of the guys are young, college students or grads and in pretty good shape. But what in the hell does the quality of men have to do with the quality of women anyway? Men keeping getting better and trying to attract women and women keep getting worse. The only thing I'll partially agree with is men are AFC in not putting any demands on women as evidenced by some of the replies in this thread.

 

[STR8UP]

Until then, go whine to someone else.

I don't hear too many people whining.

We can continue to spend time whining, or we can focus on trying to improve ourselves. I'm of the opinion spending time on the latter is more productive and will improve your life more.

So discussing the ins and outs of male/female relations isn't helping you to improve yourself? It helps me, that's part of the reason I am here.

 

[Aenigma]

Love is an emotion that is based on an opinion of women that is impossible for those who have had any experience with them.
H. L. Mencken

Love is the delusion that one woman differs from another.
H. L. Mencken

Love is the triumph of imagination over intelligence.
H. L. Mencken

Marriage is a wonderful institution, but who would want to live in an institution?
H. L. Mencken

The only really happy folk are married women and single men.
H. L. Mencken

To be in love is merely to be in a state of perceptual anesthesia - to mistake an ordinary young woman for a goddess.
H. L. Mencken

Whenever a husband and wife begin to discuss their marriage they are giving evidence at a coroner's inquest.
H. L. Mencken

 

[instantnoodles]

Love is an emotion that is based on an opinion of women that is impossible for those who have had any experience with them.
H. L. Mencken

Love is the delusion that one woman differs from another.
H. L. Mencken

Love is the triumph of imagination over intelligence.
H. L. Mencken

Marriage is a wonderful institution, but who would want to live in an institution?
H. L. Mencken

The only really happy folk are married women and single men.
H. L. Mencken

To be in love is merely to be in a state of perceptual anesthesia - to mistake an ordinary young woman for a goddess.
H. L. Mencken

Whenever a husband and wife begin to discuss their marriage they are giving evidence at a coroner's inquest.
H. L. Mencken

Love is irrational. Hate is rational. Hate is a real emotion.

 

[Die Hard]

You're right... Let's fill our hearts with hatred and spread it around, it will make the world a better place!

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear Straight 8,
The prodigal Son hath returned,is there not more joy in Heaven over the sinner who repents....?....But what's this?you sing new songs these days,well thats got to stop right away,no room for backsliders in our little community LOL....

 

[evan12]

I don't think it is bad thing if men share their bad experience with women here, some men think there is some thing wrong with them , but they feel better when they know they are not that bad and it is women fault .

When I came to Toronto , I thought some thing wrong happens to me like I get old or some thing , but I surprised how many blogs and articles in many websites was talking about how bad are most women in Toronto. and I felt good I am not the only one facing this problem .

unless you have a medicine don't ask the injured man to not shout .I know it is not manly but some times it can help to make them feel better.

 

[backbreaker]

strong 5 year bump