Big smiles are a bad thing with women?

DJDeMarco

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Are big smiles a bad thing with women?
I've noticed this week when smiling at an attractive woman or talking to her, sometimes I'll do a big smile without realizing it until I did it.
Example 1: At a store shopping, I smile at a cute young woman to gauge her interest level. Got no smile back and I realized I had a big grin when I smiled.

Example 2: Was counting change out for a cute cashier, she dropped part of my change and a moment later I told her "We're done counting change" with once again, a big grin. No smile nor response.

I think this big grin coming out may be approval seeking behavior by me. I've noticed I have this default mode of doing things without risk around women and sometimes falling into approval seeking behavior. I'm trying to smile well, but not near as big and work on that.
 

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This is a harsh truth but they weren't attracted to you. Trust me, if David Beckham flashed a smile at them in the grocery store, they wouldn't just flash a big sh!t eating smile, they would take off their panties and spread their legs right there and then. :woo:
 
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I think smiling is good when first meeting a woman but don't overdo it. Switch it up to laughter when you start talking to her. IMO just sitting there with a big ole' cheesy smile and nothing else is not going to be attractive to women, in general. But if you can make them laugh so hard they pee themselves and you laugh hard too, now you are onto something :up:

Also, keep in mind that when an alpha man doesn't smile he creates the perception with the insecure people around him (women and beta men) that something is bothering him. Thus the insecure betas men and women wonder if it is their fault as to why he is displeased and will likely try to submit to him and get on his good side. When I first walk into a new place with new people I don't smile at anyone at first. For the women who smile at me, I smile back and nod. For the men who acknowledge me first in whatever manor, I just nod at them but don't smile. This is all just me and how I personally do it.
 

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I've come to learn that when it comes to male attractiveness, RESERVE is our most powerful tool. Women emote freely. We are opposite... we emote on a token basis.
 

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I've come to learn that there is better thing to worry in life than whether to smile at a female stranger or not.

Cure the core problem, not the symptoms.
 

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lol there is a study that says women are more attracted to less smily men, and many guys read that, and now assume you must not smile lmao

that study dont take facial beauty into account

all men are more attractive when smiling a little more, you look more approachable, less intimidating, more open, people will talk to you more, etc

this is true for guys like me, who have a very masculine facial features, and serious looking face because of it
 

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Smirk instead with your eyes communicating, "I want you in bed".
 

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It means you are impressed by them or something. You don't want to act too keen straight away. If the woman fancies you for whatever like for eg you are hotter then her, then you can get away with anything.
 

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I like to maintain a straight face before starting the conversation, but once we begin speaking I keep a smirk on my face.. Not sure how to explain. It's like a slight smile but the eyes look like I'm smiling. It makes them comfortable and enhances my dimples a bit. You don't want to cheese at a girl just like you wouldn't at anyone. That looks plain retarded.

Some dudes talk to girls with a straight face the whole time, but I can't do that. I have a very expressive face and personality so I can't help but smile flirting with a hb, I've learned to keep it to that light smirk at least. (credit my uncle, watching him work his magic)
 

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Someone above said that smiling makes you seem more open, less intimidating, etc. I kinda of like to seem more intimidating so I have toned down my smiles a bit. As best I can recall, though, I didn't do it for women.
 

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I used to experiment with big, friendly smiles and I think they made me look weak. It's too giving. Men should always appear as if they're holding back a bit, granting some acknowledgment but requiring that a person prove themselves to earn full acknowledgment. My natural face is somewhat stern and I don't naturally smile; therefore I realized I had to practice a measured smile.

A full-on smile leaves nothing in reserve. Reserve and deliberate body language is very attractive and garners respect from both genders.

Think of Clint Eastwood in a spaghetti western acknowledging someone with just a slight, barely perceptible nod. Why is that so much cooler than an emotive, excited, "Hey, Charlie, how you doing?!"

Think about every man of influence you know. He conveys reserve and thereby automatically conveys that he is top dog, the one who controls his interactions.

My "sweet spot" when it comes to smiling is a slight hint of a smile, top teeth showing slightly, a bit of a smirk (one corner is higher than the other), and a slitting of the eyes, which is very powerful.

This works well for me in one-on-one situations, but still to this day I catch myself being too emotive and giving of myself in social situations. Sometimes I'm appalled at how I completely forget everything I've learned and become over-friendly (translate: giving).

Powerful men don't give freely and emote like women, who give themselves away in a flow. Men of power and influence always appear to be throttling their giving.
 

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Atom Smasher said:
I used to experiment with big, friendly smiles and I think they made me look weak. It's too giving. Men should always appear as if they're holding back a bit, granting some acknowledgment but requiring that a person prove themselves to earn full acknowledgment. My natural face is somewhat stern and I don't naturally smile; therefore I realized I had to practice a measured smile.

A full-on smile leaves nothing in reserve. Reserve and deliberate body language is very attractive and garners respect from both genders.

Think of Clint Eastwood in a spaghetti western acknowledging someone with just a slight, barely perceptible nod. Why is that so much cooler than an emotive, excited, "Hey, Charlie, how you doing?!"

Think about every man of influence you know. He conveys reserve and thereby automatically conveys that he is top dog, the one who controls his interactions.

My "sweet spot" when it comes to smiling is a slight hint of a smile, top teeth showing slightly, a bit of a smirk (one corner is higher than the other), and a slitting of the eyes, which is very powerful.

This works well for me in one-on-one situations, but still to this day I catch myself being too emotive and giving of myself in social situations. Sometimes I'm appalled at how I completely forget everything I've learned and become over-friendly (translate: giving).

Powerful men don't give freely and emote like women, who give themselves away in a flow. Men of power and influence always appear to be throttling their giving.
Some great info there :up:.

Very important to stay in complete control of your interaction with a woman. The rest is just icing on the cake.

Also judging by your sweet spot, it sounds like we have a similar facial structure lol. Unless of course that's a universal sweet spot.
 
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