PuertoRican_Lover
Banned
Well said, Player!
Bicurious Trend Among White Chicks
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Genghis Juan
Senior Don Juan
I am old-fashioned when it comes to a girl I consider LTR material. But if I am with a girl for a fling or something, if she told me she experiemented with another woman, I wouldn't care much. If she wanted a 3-some with me and another girl; that would be fine with me.
HOWEVER, I have heard nightmares from social circles about married couples breaking up because the wife went to lesbianism and left the dude for a woman! I was at Thanksgiving and (I didn't know until the couple left) a couple there was getting a divorce, friends of the family. The reason for the divorce? The wife was getting it on with a dike. She left the guy for the other woman! She was definitely kind of masculine in a way; aggressive, loud and chumy.
If I am in the midst of investigating potential for an LTR, and I girl tells me she has "experiemented", its hasta la vista baby.
HOWEVER, I have heard nightmares from social circles about married couples breaking up because the wife went to lesbianism and left the dude for a woman! I was at Thanksgiving and (I didn't know until the couple left) a couple there was getting a divorce, friends of the family. The reason for the divorce? The wife was getting it on with a dike. She left the guy for the other woman! She was definitely kind of masculine in a way; aggressive, loud and chumy.
If I am in the midst of investigating potential for an LTR, and I girl tells me she has "experiemented", its hasta la vista baby.
Genghis Juan
Senior Don Juan
Oh, and by the way, its not like its already tough enough with women being all over the place with morals down the tubes. I mean, your girl could get it on with some other sleazy guy. But now, its like you also have to be worried that some dike is trying to get into your woman's pants too!!
Death to the L-Word Sitcom and all the other lesbian chic kissing scenes in main stream TV. Cut that **** out! Leave that stuff for the male porn industry. There are so few good classy women left as it is.
Death to the L-Word Sitcom and all the other lesbian chic kissing scenes in main stream TV. Cut that **** out! Leave that stuff for the male porn industry. There are so few good classy women left as it is.
MysteryWoman
Master Don Juan
Will Smith looks feminine. Some how I doubt most Americans are shagging left and right, although this site is less than 1 percent of the American population I think it is quite representative of a lot of insecure guys in this day and age. If most Americans were getting laid with as many different partners as you are suggesting there would be no need for this site and David D'Anglio's bullysh!t!
No I suppose most American guys are not metrosexual an awful lot of them are fat. But I still think it is America that is promoting the ideal feminine look in men. But I have been to America and there are quite a few American guys at my university, and on the whole they do not appear to be that much more confident than English guys.
Player_Supreme
Banned
1. Did you see Will Smith in The Ali story? I guess not. Will smith plays a youth full boyish roll in the Men in Black series, not feminine...I guess you also haven't seen Bad Boys 1 or 2 either. So in your broad sampling you've made up your mind.
2. Yes Americans are shagging left and right. Go to any resturant in any town and you will see couples on dates. Go to any movie theather in any town and you will still see couples on dates.
3. You are judging American men by these guys on this site. Back in my youth we called the majority of the men on this site nerds and goobers and goofy dudes. In any school they still make up less than 1% while the jocks and the regular people are shagging left and right. I applaud this site. Those kinds of people do need help getting dates...we would hate to see them implode and become columbine types.
4. I should send you a link to where real players and pimps hang out and then you can see what the game is really about...not this stuff preached on these type of sites. You will not see people whinning about women did them wrong or any of that stuff. Or how men who take hormones look like hb9's, or dressing a certain way makes you gay..or is it ok if I still live at home even though I'm making $40,000.00 fawking dollars a year...or any of that other pvssy shyt you see posted.
Most of the fella's on this site Mystery are here because they belong here. They were the Chess team people...like my older brother...socially inept..put up 2 grades...chess team...nicknamed by other students...goofy grape...after a kool aid commercial...totally unable to connect with women...IQ in the 170's...
Look at the gene pool who posted about driving a mini van and living at home with mom and dad...and look at the others who think its ok...these are the egg heads as we used to call em back in the days....You can't judge American men by these standards sweetpea...
Look at our American boot soldier...men fighting and dying for their country and taking names and kicking arse...then look at the posters on this site...see the difference....
You go to any gym in America and you will see a real sampling of American men. Go to any basket ball court...Race Track...Dojo...Baseball diamond...even pvssy assed soccer...and you will see American men who are about action...
So do not judge us by what you see on this site..and it's even international...not everybody on here is American.
Player_Supreme
Banned
Lastly:
This site isn't even a good sampling of Races. It's well known that American Black and Latin men get pvssy. 99% of these groups do not have any problems getting women.
It's mostly the ones like my older brother who have trouble. Although there are quite a few members of color on this site...we brotha's and my latin brotha's traditionally do not have problems shagging left and right...look at our birth records...somebody is making all those kids...
I have 4 son's and not a one of them have any trouble getting women.
It amazes me that when these sociologist do these polls...they never come to our side of the tracks...for example married couples average less than 2x's a week with sex...they never came to our neighboorhoods or the latin communities to ask how many times a day we've hit our women.
The people of color that they ask are the upper society ones who forgot that they are black or latin and even act that way...I've seen those fools even forget how to dance...lol..
This site isn't even a good sampling of Races. It's well known that American Black and Latin men get pvssy. 99% of these groups do not have any problems getting women.
It's mostly the ones like my older brother who have trouble. Although there are quite a few members of color on this site...we brotha's and my latin brotha's traditionally do not have problems shagging left and right...look at our birth records...somebody is making all those kids...
I have 4 son's and not a one of them have any trouble getting women.
It amazes me that when these sociologist do these polls...they never come to our side of the tracks...for example married couples average less than 2x's a week with sex...they never came to our neighboorhoods or the latin communities to ask how many times a day we've hit our women.
The people of color that they ask are the upper society ones who forgot that they are black or latin and even act that way...I've seen those fools even forget how to dance...lol..
Will Smith just bugs me I don't know if he's effeminate or not. I just want to smack his silly a**. Everybody knows Carlton's geeky a** was the funny one. Player supreme, one question: if you are so cool then why are you here? I just don't get it, are you just still that insecure meat-head who liked to pick on the local wimp to inflate your fragile ego? I have to be honest, I was in the military for four years, where we are all sh** in the eyes of god and the "bruthas" strike out just as much as anyone else. In fact alot of guys do, no matter how tough they are. I played sports and went to the "dojo" when I was younger, and the same rings true there. I got so sick of the low-brow steroid tough guy thing that I bought my own freeweights so I could work out at home in peace. It's just kind of dumb. The black man's mystyque in this country is bulls***. I've beat up a few in my drinking days and they weren't small guys either. It isn't cool to be gay in the black community which is the reason AIDS rates are climbing in the inner city. The women aren't being told by their partners that they swing both ways 'cuz it ain't cool in the hood. Me and my girlfriend at the time lived in an apartment complex by this big buffed out black dude who always used to bring home these skinny girly-boy male prostitutes, and then always tell guys he'd kick their a** if they ever told anybody. Eazy-E and Majic Johnson were oh-so-cool until it turned out that they were a**-pirates. I think there are quite a few people who simply come here to get a little unbiased opinion rather than listening to their friends or women's stupid unfounded opinions. If there is one thing that rings true in this universe it's that guys who brag about how much they "hit it" are usually hiding something.
And what's with this girly-guy|macho-guy debate anyway. You can't help what you look like, you make due with what you got. It's a style thing really. As they say "don't hate the player, hate the game". Hating and talking sh** about people because they are just a little different from you is stupid. I liked Tony Dorsett because he was a crafty bastard and I liked Walter Payton because he moved like a truck. Now I like Marshall Faulk because he's a bit of both. I don't hate any of them although they all have or had different style. You choose the style that suits you best and who gives a s*** who thinks what. All that matters is you're getting it or you're not, not whether or not some dumbass thinks you're cool 'cuz you do it like he wishes he could.
The bottom line with this bi-curious girl thing is this-- quality. To be true master you have to know the difference between a trashy slut, and marriage material. I've known lots of guys who could pull lots of good looking girls all of which were complete trash. If they did it once they will do it again and they are trash. If they did it once they are tainted goods, forever, period. Don't try and rationalize this and then be surprised when she balls your best friend in the hot-tub while she thinks you're at work and you've already got a kid and a mortgage. Quality women require patience and most guys are too lazy or sloppy to even try.
I'm not saying you can't find a nice girl in a bar but at least observe how she acts when she's drunk. Does she retain a little class or is she really just flirting with the whole world and you're the only one tuning in at that moment? Two girls is a fantasy for some not all but for g-d's sake don't marry or shack up with this type of soft-hooker. It's one thing to bang some nasty broad it's quite another to be seen again in public with her. There are just too many possibilities that a quality woman will see the kind of trashy company you've been keeping when you're not paying attention and "poof" she's gone. Nice girls don't want anything to do with some guy who f**** threesome-bi-hoebag girls, and is proud enough to be seen in public doing it. This type of hideous scene disturbs them. Alot of guys would call these women "bi***" or "stuck-up" because they can't have her and this has to do with her level of self respect gentleman, you have to earn it. Like it or not we are judged by the company we keep and that's just the way it is. It's the difference between getting high at a party and being lumped into that group that does drugs at school. Trash attracts trash and money attracts money. These are the laws of physics. Yes bi-sluts are kind of tough and masculine no matter how hot and petite. It's a clue that they are confused. Emotionally retarded. Whatever, who knows for sure if it was because her stepdad touched her squishy when she was little or got drunk one night freshman year and scr**** the whole high school football team scarring her forever. It doesn't matter what got her to that place just that she's there, no matter how hot you think she is. She is brain-damaged-goods. This kind of trashy hoebag hoochie-mamma lives in another world, far away from most respectable people. A world without morals or ethics. She can be VERY fun but beware she is a deadly venemous creature.
I'm not saying you can't find a nice girl in a bar but at least observe how she acts when she's drunk. Does she retain a little class or is she really just flirting with the whole world and you're the only one tuning in at that moment? Two girls is a fantasy for some not all but for g-d's sake don't marry or shack up with this type of soft-hooker. It's one thing to bang some nasty broad it's quite another to be seen again in public with her. There are just too many possibilities that a quality woman will see the kind of trashy company you've been keeping when you're not paying attention and "poof" she's gone. Nice girls don't want anything to do with some guy who f**** threesome-bi-hoebag girls, and is proud enough to be seen in public doing it. This type of hideous scene disturbs them. Alot of guys would call these women "bi***" or "stuck-up" because they can't have her and this has to do with her level of self respect gentleman, you have to earn it. Like it or not we are judged by the company we keep and that's just the way it is. It's the difference between getting high at a party and being lumped into that group that does drugs at school. Trash attracts trash and money attracts money. These are the laws of physics. Yes bi-sluts are kind of tough and masculine no matter how hot and petite. It's a clue that they are confused. Emotionally retarded. Whatever, who knows for sure if it was because her stepdad touched her squishy when she was little or got drunk one night freshman year and scr**** the whole high school football team scarring her forever. It doesn't matter what got her to that place just that she's there, no matter how hot you think she is. She is brain-damaged-goods. This kind of trashy hoebag hoochie-mamma lives in another world, far away from most respectable people. A world without morals or ethics. She can be VERY fun but beware she is a deadly venemous creature.
God_of_getting_layed
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From what I understand, Player Supreme is arguing that all women want a masculine man, and Mystery Woman is arguing that all women want a feminine man.
Well, guess what kids!! YOU'RE BOTH WRONG!!!!
Women are not all the same. There is variation. YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN TO ASSUME ALL WOMEN ARE IDENTICLE. Shame on you.
Diversity is something you’ll see everywhere, not just in women's preferences in what they like in men, but also everywhere else in human behavior. You’ll also see diversity in the behaviors of animals, as well as non behavioral things, like physical characteristics of animals (speciation of life) and non living things like diversity of naturally occurring chemical compounds, diversity in the formation of galaxies, the fact that there’s diversity in men liking lesbian porn vs. guys who don’t is another example. Etc. I could go on. Diversity is everywhere, and your ignorant to say that all women like the same kind of man, if that really were true, this debate never would have arose, the fact that all women like Masculine/feminine men would have been self-evident, and would be ludicrous to have such a debate.
But the fact is, women are different, some will like "masculine men", some will like "feminine men", AND IT IS LIKE THIS EVERYWHERE!. Get over it, and stop arguing, and trying to say woman all like the same kind.
Even If you try to modify you position by changing where the majority taste applies you’ll still be wrong. Which is what it looks like Player supreme is starting to do. Now he says over in America, women specifically like masculine men, and English women are the ones that like feminine men. Basically, Player is starting to say that the diversity occurs on the national level. America vs. UK on women's diverse tastes. But once again, he is wrong. Variation occurs on all levels, not just on the national one. You’re wrong to say that it’s the American aggregate of women that all like masculine men, and the English aggregate all like feminine. Your wrong to try and draw the diversity line on the national level. Im gonna go ahead and correct you there, even in USA, there is variation. Some women will like feminine men, some will like masculine. Even on the local city level, there will be this kind of variation. So both of you need to give up in claiming that women everywhere/in your country/ in your city all like feminine/masculine men.
I hope your intelligent enough to grasp this concept Player Supreme, because from the looks of your posts, it looks like you might strain alot of brain cells trying to uptake such a concept.
Oh, and one more thing Player supreme, as for your polling, ITS FLAWED!
There’s one detail you left out when you were doing your polls, which totally contaminated what you got....
(You may be able to fool other people with your skewed poll results, BUT YOU CANT FOOL ME BUDDY! Mystery Woman is going to love having me pointing this out, and I am going to love exposing your stupidity and incompetence when it comes to taking a simple poll. Im also going to have to b!tch slap you with my "hand of correction". You say Mystery woman's argument isn’t holding water, well it appears your argument isn’t holding credibility, LOL)
I’m 99.9999999999999999999999% percent positive that when you were polling women, you simply asked, "Do you like feminine men?", and then recorded your results. This is where you fvcked up you idiot.
You have failed to realize that every woman will have a different perception for the concept of "feminine man". So when you ask if women likes feminine men or not, theres a credibility issue in their answer. One woman's idea of the concept "feminine man" will be different from another’s. Therefore when a given women says, "no, I don’t like feminine men", her answer is meaningless unless you know what is constituted as a feminine man in her eyes.
Lets look at the two extremes, on one end of the spectrum, you have one woman who's definition of feminine as any guy who isn’t a Hostile Neanderthal (by this perception of feminine/masculine, you (player supreme) would seem like a flaming faggot) on the other extreme, you have a woman who sees any guy who isn’t flaming faggot as masculine, and then you have women who's perceptions of a masculine/feminine men being anywhere in-between the two extremes.
This variation in perceptions for the concept "feminine man"/"masculine man" can really screw up poll results if you don’t do it right. There becomes a credibility issue in the woman's answer.
Lets look at an example of a poll that is basically what happened when Player Supreme polled women on if they like feminine men or not:
We ask the first women if she likes feminine men...this given women's defininition of feminine is any man who is flaming faggot, and any man who is not flaming is masculine. She likes brad pitt, brad pit is no flaming faggot, so therefore, in this woman’s mind, he is considered masculine, so she answers with "no, I don’t like feminine men" (with some flaming faggot like Boy George in mind), "I like masculine men" (with Brad pitt in mind)
Then we ask the 2nd women if she likes feminine men.....this women's definition of a feminine man is any man who is not hostile and Neanderthal like and any man who is a Neanderthal is masculine. She really likes fully tattooed biker prison inmates in for multiple murder charges. In her mind, someone like Tupac would be too pretty, and too feminine for her. So she answers with "no, I don’t like feminine men (with men ranging from Tupac to boy George in mind), I like masculine men" ( with the Neanderthal prison inmate in mind)
And then we have women who’s varying idea of "masculine man" is everywhere and anywhere in-between the two extremes that the first 2 women were.
As can be seen, the first two women both said they like "masculine men", But the kind of men they both liked were radically opposite of each other (but since we didn’t do it right, we have no way of knowing this important detail). The 2nd women would have said the first women's taste was "feminine", and this screws up the credibility of the poll results (since we didn’t do it right, we have no way of knowing what each polled women constituted as a masculine man) and we would have concluded that both women like the same type of men "masculine" when the fact is, the two women had radically different tastes, and based on just the first 2 women, the conclusion would really have been half likes type A, the other half likes type B. This just shows how variation in women's perception on a definition concept like "feminine/masculine man" can skew poll results when you just bluntly ask "Do you like feminine men?" and they answer with "no, feminine men don’t do it for me". YOU HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT, YOU CANT BE STUPID OR YOULL GET RESULTS THAT HAVE NO CREDIBILITY LIKE YOU DID PLAYER.
The fact that you and mystery women are disagreeing on what actors are masculine and feminine demonstrates my point as true. Player Supreme, your idea of masculine/feminine is a little bit different than Mystery woman's, that’s why she says will smith is feminine, and you say he is masculine. The women you polled varied in the same way, screwing the credibility of your poll.
Sorry to break it to ya kid, but as of right now, ANY POLLING YOU HAVE DONE SO FAR MEANS JACK ****! (Actually I’m not sorry
The woman's replies you posted on how they like masculine men are meaningless since we don’t have anyway of knowing what they consider masculine.
Before I ***** slap you with my "hand of correction" I have to ask: HOW THE FVCK COULD YOU HAVE MISSED SUCH AN IMPORTANT DETAIL WHEN YOU WERE POLLING THE WOMEN? WHAT ARE YOU STUPID? I GUESS YOU WERE TOO BUSY TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH YOUR "ISAAC HAYES IMMITATION" LOOK., MAYBE A COUPLE OF FACIAL HAIRS WHERE ALIGNED TOO NEATLY, AND YOU HAD TO "MESS THEM UP" SO YOU DONT LOOK QUEER, LOL.
Here is where I correct you son:
The next time you poll women on this, make sure you give each women a crystal clear definition on what constitutes a "masculine man", and what constitutes a "feminine man" before the woman gives you her answer. This will prevent credibility issues, and will get real poll results.
Next time you poll the correct way, I’m sure you’ll find the results to be a little different than what you have been getting ;-)
Oh, and learn how to take polls right you moron.
-God_of_getting_layed AKA Elite_womanizer
Well, guess what kids!! YOU'RE BOTH WRONG!!!!
Women are not all the same. There is variation. YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN TO ASSUME ALL WOMEN ARE IDENTICLE. Shame on you.
Diversity is something you’ll see everywhere, not just in women's preferences in what they like in men, but also everywhere else in human behavior. You’ll also see diversity in the behaviors of animals, as well as non behavioral things, like physical characteristics of animals (speciation of life) and non living things like diversity of naturally occurring chemical compounds, diversity in the formation of galaxies, the fact that there’s diversity in men liking lesbian porn vs. guys who don’t is another example. Etc. I could go on. Diversity is everywhere, and your ignorant to say that all women like the same kind of man, if that really were true, this debate never would have arose, the fact that all women like Masculine/feminine men would have been self-evident, and would be ludicrous to have such a debate.
But the fact is, women are different, some will like "masculine men", some will like "feminine men", AND IT IS LIKE THIS EVERYWHERE!. Get over it, and stop arguing, and trying to say woman all like the same kind.
Even If you try to modify you position by changing where the majority taste applies you’ll still be wrong. Which is what it looks like Player supreme is starting to do. Now he says over in America, women specifically like masculine men, and English women are the ones that like feminine men. Basically, Player is starting to say that the diversity occurs on the national level. America vs. UK on women's diverse tastes. But once again, he is wrong. Variation occurs on all levels, not just on the national one. You’re wrong to say that it’s the American aggregate of women that all like masculine men, and the English aggregate all like feminine. Your wrong to try and draw the diversity line on the national level. Im gonna go ahead and correct you there, even in USA, there is variation. Some women will like feminine men, some will like masculine. Even on the local city level, there will be this kind of variation. So both of you need to give up in claiming that women everywhere/in your country/ in your city all like feminine/masculine men.
I hope your intelligent enough to grasp this concept Player Supreme, because from the looks of your posts, it looks like you might strain alot of brain cells trying to uptake such a concept.
Oh, and one more thing Player supreme, as for your polling, ITS FLAWED!
There’s one detail you left out when you were doing your polls, which totally contaminated what you got....
(You may be able to fool other people with your skewed poll results, BUT YOU CANT FOOL ME BUDDY! Mystery Woman is going to love having me pointing this out, and I am going to love exposing your stupidity and incompetence when it comes to taking a simple poll. Im also going to have to b!tch slap you with my "hand of correction". You say Mystery woman's argument isn’t holding water, well it appears your argument isn’t holding credibility, LOL)
I’m 99.9999999999999999999999% percent positive that when you were polling women, you simply asked, "Do you like feminine men?", and then recorded your results. This is where you fvcked up you idiot.
You have failed to realize that every woman will have a different perception for the concept of "feminine man". So when you ask if women likes feminine men or not, theres a credibility issue in their answer. One woman's idea of the concept "feminine man" will be different from another’s. Therefore when a given women says, "no, I don’t like feminine men", her answer is meaningless unless you know what is constituted as a feminine man in her eyes.
Lets look at the two extremes, on one end of the spectrum, you have one woman who's definition of feminine as any guy who isn’t a Hostile Neanderthal (by this perception of feminine/masculine, you (player supreme) would seem like a flaming faggot) on the other extreme, you have a woman who sees any guy who isn’t flaming faggot as masculine, and then you have women who's perceptions of a masculine/feminine men being anywhere in-between the two extremes.
This variation in perceptions for the concept "feminine man"/"masculine man" can really screw up poll results if you don’t do it right. There becomes a credibility issue in the woman's answer.
Lets look at an example of a poll that is basically what happened when Player Supreme polled women on if they like feminine men or not:
We ask the first women if she likes feminine men...this given women's defininition of feminine is any man who is flaming faggot, and any man who is not flaming is masculine. She likes brad pitt, brad pit is no flaming faggot, so therefore, in this woman’s mind, he is considered masculine, so she answers with "no, I don’t like feminine men" (with some flaming faggot like Boy George in mind), "I like masculine men" (with Brad pitt in mind)
Then we ask the 2nd women if she likes feminine men.....this women's definition of a feminine man is any man who is not hostile and Neanderthal like and any man who is a Neanderthal is masculine. She really likes fully tattooed biker prison inmates in for multiple murder charges. In her mind, someone like Tupac would be too pretty, and too feminine for her. So she answers with "no, I don’t like feminine men (with men ranging from Tupac to boy George in mind), I like masculine men" ( with the Neanderthal prison inmate in mind)
And then we have women who’s varying idea of "masculine man" is everywhere and anywhere in-between the two extremes that the first 2 women were.
As can be seen, the first two women both said they like "masculine men", But the kind of men they both liked were radically opposite of each other (but since we didn’t do it right, we have no way of knowing this important detail). The 2nd women would have said the first women's taste was "feminine", and this screws up the credibility of the poll results (since we didn’t do it right, we have no way of knowing what each polled women constituted as a masculine man) and we would have concluded that both women like the same type of men "masculine" when the fact is, the two women had radically different tastes, and based on just the first 2 women, the conclusion would really have been half likes type A, the other half likes type B. This just shows how variation in women's perception on a definition concept like "feminine/masculine man" can skew poll results when you just bluntly ask "Do you like feminine men?" and they answer with "no, feminine men don’t do it for me". YOU HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT, YOU CANT BE STUPID OR YOULL GET RESULTS THAT HAVE NO CREDIBILITY LIKE YOU DID PLAYER.
The fact that you and mystery women are disagreeing on what actors are masculine and feminine demonstrates my point as true. Player Supreme, your idea of masculine/feminine is a little bit different than Mystery woman's, that’s why she says will smith is feminine, and you say he is masculine. The women you polled varied in the same way, screwing the credibility of your poll.
Sorry to break it to ya kid, but as of right now, ANY POLLING YOU HAVE DONE SO FAR MEANS JACK ****! (Actually I’m not sorry
The woman's replies you posted on how they like masculine men are meaningless since we don’t have anyway of knowing what they consider masculine.Before I ***** slap you with my "hand of correction" I have to ask: HOW THE FVCK COULD YOU HAVE MISSED SUCH AN IMPORTANT DETAIL WHEN YOU WERE POLLING THE WOMEN? WHAT ARE YOU STUPID? I GUESS YOU WERE TOO BUSY TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH YOUR "ISAAC HAYES IMMITATION" LOOK., MAYBE A COUPLE OF FACIAL HAIRS WHERE ALIGNED TOO NEATLY, AND YOU HAD TO "MESS THEM UP" SO YOU DONT LOOK QUEER, LOL.
Here is where I correct you son:
The next time you poll women on this, make sure you give each women a crystal clear definition on what constitutes a "masculine man", and what constitutes a "feminine man" before the woman gives you her answer. This will prevent credibility issues, and will get real poll results.
Next time you poll the correct way, I’m sure you’ll find the results to be a little different than what you have been getting ;-)
Oh, and learn how to take polls right you moron.
-God_of_getting_layed AKA Elite_womanizer
What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
PuertoRican_Lover
Banned
God,
You created man and woman and yet your understanding of the female is lacking. All women like and prefer masculine men - period!! No such thing as feminine men - this is a oxymoron. Men who qualify for the "feminine" label is an aberration. No one needs to take a poll because 'nature' dictates the answer as to what women prefer - it is in their genetic make-up!
You created man and woman and yet your understanding of the female is lacking. All women like and prefer masculine men - period!! No such thing as feminine men - this is a oxymoron. Men who qualify for the "feminine" label is an aberration. No one needs to take a poll because 'nature' dictates the answer as to what women prefer - it is in their genetic make-up!
MysteryWoman
Master Don Juan
PlayerSupreme, even if you come to London you will see many English guys on dates with women. But from my Experience being here and going to America, American men are not that much more confident than English guys.
Feminine men does not mean gay, it is term us women use to describe boyish looking men. But if you read Evolution theory (read it with an open mind-it is mainly men who has written this) it describes how men are becoming more facially similar to women (feminised), and this has happened mainly because women want men to be less violent (compared to the neanderthal character) and more emotionally attached to their children.
So you admit most of the guys on here are a bunch of losers, the nerdy types who wore glasses at school and burried their heads in books. If that is so, why do you hang out with him, are you trying to be their therapist?
Send me the links of where the real American players hangout, I'd really love to understand their psychology and techniques and I promise not to regiester in their Disscussion forums
Feminine men does not mean gay, it is term us women use to describe boyish looking men. But if you read Evolution theory (read it with an open mind-it is mainly men who has written this) it describes how men are becoming more facially similar to women (feminised), and this has happened mainly because women want men to be less violent (compared to the neanderthal character) and more emotionally attached to their children.
So you admit most of the guys on here are a bunch of losers, the nerdy types who wore glasses at school and burried their heads in books. If that is so, why do you hang out with him, are you trying to be their therapist?
Send me the links of where the real American players hangout, I'd really love to understand their psychology and techniques and I promise not to regiester in their Disscussion forums
Genghis Juan
Senior Don Juan
Mystery Woman:
When you state that women are now looking for men who are more feminized these days, do you mean in looks only?
Do you want a man as just mainly there for masculine support? Do you feel that men are not necessarily needed for much else anymore since womens' liberation has brought women jobs and money. What role is there left for us other than to be a "masculine presence" for sex, getting you pregnant and support?
Over the past 30 years, women have come along way both in the States and the UK. Women these days are very assertive, particularly in the US. But simultaneously, its seems like men have taken steps backward. Its like, Yuppie girls in the US are just looking for a guy that can bring home a good sized paycheck after they have kids and leave the workforce for awhile.
Men don't have much left because I know for a fact that women manage the relationship 90% of the time and condition the home.
Don't mean to whine, I am not bitter at all. I don't feel threatened by a liberated assertive girl. Its just an observation that has lead me to sympathize with some men who feel a bit lost or confused in this brave new world.
When you state that women are now looking for men who are more feminized these days, do you mean in looks only?
Do you want a man as just mainly there for masculine support? Do you feel that men are not necessarily needed for much else anymore since womens' liberation has brought women jobs and money. What role is there left for us other than to be a "masculine presence" for sex, getting you pregnant and support?
Over the past 30 years, women have come along way both in the States and the UK. Women these days are very assertive, particularly in the US. But simultaneously, its seems like men have taken steps backward. Its like, Yuppie girls in the US are just looking for a guy that can bring home a good sized paycheck after they have kids and leave the workforce for awhile.
Men don't have much left because I know for a fact that women manage the relationship 90% of the time and condition the home.
Don't mean to whine, I am not bitter at all. I don't feel threatened by a liberated assertive girl. Its just an observation that has lead me to sympathize with some men who feel a bit lost or confused in this brave new world.
MysteryWoman
Master Don Juan
The femininie, I better say boyish look and stop offending most guys is ideal nowdays for women. Women are choosing this look because it is percieved as less threating and dangerous than the neanderthal man. And you will notice that over millions of years men have evolved to look more like women than women look like men. Countries like China or Japan hardly any men there have facial hair anymore.
Yes women are adapting to the first taste of freedom in the Western world which only started from the sixties onwards. So it has become a big shock for men that many women are not depending on them anymore, but they will have to and are slowly adapting to this change.
Women are aggressive at the moment because they haven't forgiven men for treating them as second class citizens for many years in the past, they will probably be less angry one day, but for the time being almost all women are angry to some extent. Similar to blacks who are angry at whites to this day, simply because white people kept them down badly in the past.
But look at the brightside, men now get free sex with out having to commit to one woman for fifty years of their lives.
They don't have to finacially support a woman all her life if they choose not to, thanks to woman's independance.
And they are not as pressured to live up to this macho image as much as they once had to in the past. How many men resent that it is not acceptable for them to show their emotions in public or speak about their emotional problems?
So in a way, with women' liberation in many ways men have come much more liberated. There are always going to be guys who complain about the negative side of this (but there are good and bad sides to everything), would be equally complaining if women were stuck at home all day doing a bit of cooking, makeup and shopping-whilst they have to 9-5 five days a week.
Yes women are adapting to the first taste of freedom in the Western world which only started from the sixties onwards. So it has become a big shock for men that many women are not depending on them anymore, but they will have to and are slowly adapting to this change.
Women are aggressive at the moment because they haven't forgiven men for treating them as second class citizens for many years in the past, they will probably be less angry one day, but for the time being almost all women are angry to some extent. Similar to blacks who are angry at whites to this day, simply because white people kept them down badly in the past.
But look at the brightside, men now get free sex with out having to commit to one woman for fifty years of their lives.
They don't have to finacially support a woman all her life if they choose not to, thanks to woman's independance.
And they are not as pressured to live up to this macho image as much as they once had to in the past. How many men resent that it is not acceptable for them to show their emotions in public or speak about their emotional problems?
So in a way, with women' liberation in many ways men have come much more liberated. There are always going to be guys who complain about the negative side of this (but there are good and bad sides to everything), would be equally complaining if women were stuck at home all day doing a bit of cooking, makeup and shopping-whilst they have to 9-5 five days a week.
WestCoaster
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Riddle me this
If women are so enlightened now, whey do they STILL gravitate towards men who are "bad boys" and treat them like sh-t? Nine times out of 10 a woman (at least in the U.S.) will pick the wrong man for her, one who disrespects her completely ... thus our high divorce rate.
I don't buy this enlightenment until women start dating men who treat them well -- not worship them, but respect them.
If women are so enlightened now, whey do they STILL gravitate towards men who are "bad boys" and treat them like sh-t? Nine times out of 10 a woman (at least in the U.S.) will pick the wrong man for her, one who disrespects her completely ... thus our high divorce rate.
I don't buy this enlightenment until women start dating men who treat them well -- not worship them, but respect them.
MysteryWoman
Master Don Juan
Re: Riddle me this
I think Divorce has nothing to do with being too nice guy or too bad etc. It is happening because people are bored of marriage and do not what to be stuck with the same person all their lives, it goes against human nature to stay with one person all your life
Genghis Juan
Senior Don Juan
Re:
Mystery Woman:
I don't buy your argument that the bitter women of today are acting so because of the repression that women have been undergoing over the past centuries. No woman today in our generation has personally experienced this, and no man in this generation has carried out the subjugation. Not an excuse. Dont buy it. Most women I know never bring up such a silly argument. If you're going to be that creative for justification, then I have plenty of statistics and justifications for me to treat women like crap if I wanted to.
Most women today who don't want to commit are scarred from some previous experience (assuming they are 25+yo.) with a bozo who treated them badly and have never come to terms with it.
Also, regardless of your values and what you state, most women today do not regularly have sex outside of a relationship context. Especially after college. The predominantly promisciuous gender will always be the men. It's biochemistry, not society.
If a woman wants children and a family, she must start thinking about marriage around the mid to late 20's. After the age of 30, the ballgame is over for them. Men are not burdened by the biological clock. We have many more years and incentives to be promisciuous.
WestCoaster:
I personally don't worry about women who chose bozos who treat them badly. It is their loss in my opinion. Let us face it; as most men are pathetic AFC's or Coward Jerks who end up with the wrong women; most women are also making the consensual decision to be with these wrong men. People just don't know what the hell they are getting into.
If a woman is stuck in a miserable relationship with a Jackass who treats her like shyte, and she stays, then she deserves it.
Much like the pathetic wimp who stays with the fat bossy dog of a woman.
Mystery Woman:
I don't buy your argument that the bitter women of today are acting so because of the repression that women have been undergoing over the past centuries. No woman today in our generation has personally experienced this, and no man in this generation has carried out the subjugation. Not an excuse. Dont buy it. Most women I know never bring up such a silly argument. If you're going to be that creative for justification, then I have plenty of statistics and justifications for me to treat women like crap if I wanted to.
Most women today who don't want to commit are scarred from some previous experience (assuming they are 25+yo.) with a bozo who treated them badly and have never come to terms with it.
Also, regardless of your values and what you state, most women today do not regularly have sex outside of a relationship context. Especially after college. The predominantly promisciuous gender will always be the men. It's biochemistry, not society.
If a woman wants children and a family, she must start thinking about marriage around the mid to late 20's. After the age of 30, the ballgame is over for them. Men are not burdened by the biological clock. We have many more years and incentives to be promisciuous.
WestCoaster:
I personally don't worry about women who chose bozos who treat them badly. It is their loss in my opinion. Let us face it; as most men are pathetic AFC's or Coward Jerks who end up with the wrong women; most women are also making the consensual decision to be with these wrong men. People just don't know what the hell they are getting into.
If a woman is stuck in a miserable relationship with a Jackass who treats her like shyte, and she stays, then she deserves it.
Much like the pathetic wimp who stays with the fat bossy dog of a woman.
MysteryWoman
Master Don Juan
Re: Re:
Women are bored of marriage, once they have children. It goes against human nature for a man or woman to be stuck with the same person all their lives.
No on average men and women are equally promiscious, women just pretend not to be. If men are more promiscious than women they are either going with homosexuals or paying prostitutes, work on your maths.
Women are bored of marriage, once they have children. It goes against human nature for a man or woman to be stuck with the same person all their lives.
Genghis Juan
Senior Don Juan
Actually I disagree with you again. Promiscious men date women until sex is acquired, then leave the woman who is looking for a commitment. I am not talking about ONS's. Of course on an ONS its one man for a woman. But a promisicuous man strings along several women, many of whom are in the guise of investigating a relationship while some maybe just F buddies.
Mystery woman, as someone already posted at great length besides myself: people are not all the same. Just because you are a total slut doesn't mean all women are. On the other hand I think it's cowardly and passive aggressive to cheat on someone, be big boy or girl and tell the person in question it's definitely over. Many people are overly promiscuous due to the fact that they are confused about what they want (i.e. wasting someone elses time who they are not interested in) or they feel they have to validate their low self esteem on a regular basis because their ego is that fragile. You're not a dog Mystery Woman(well maybe you are from the looks of it), and you can't blame animal ignorance on you lack of discipline and self control. "It's natural for me to be a total slut and hurt people's feelings all the time because I only care about myself." You are pure trash and I wouldn't touch you with my dog's d***. You can't rationalize your behavior with me, your just a confused little girl. What's your next step, "well I'm going to f*** him anyway so why not take the money, it's NATURAL for me to want to get something out of it, prostitution's just a male dominated society label" What man with any sense would want to date a woman such as yourself? And why are you making your posts here instead of at "commonstreettrash.com"?
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