Beyond Don Juan

Jester

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It can't be measured, you can't touch it, but you know it when you see it. It is that unmistakable presence and charisma you've wanted all your life. Coming to this site and learning these methodologies was only the first step in a successive line to becoming something more than most people ever dream. Don Juan Demarco was not the end all be all epitome of the perfect human. He was only the beginning!

I don't know how many people have reached this plane of existance, but im sure its not very many at all. Pook comes to mind in a way, but in a way he has also failed. Pook's understanding has only led him to both success melancholy, for this i say he has taken the wrong path! Pook did not seek love, atleast if he sought it, he did not find it. Pook wanted to achieve mastery over women....and he did....but his very desire made him incapable of love. He can not love because he can no longer look at woman as a human, they are all animal to him, all test subjects. In the end, it looks as if pook failed himself. After his "success", he will now only suffer defeat.

I'm not there yet either, but im close. I can see the finish line, but I can't see the obstacles still in my way. How many of you are experiencing the same right now? There must be atleast a few, I can feel you out there.

Stop asking yourself if every little move you made was "DJ" or not! If have to ask yourself or anyone else that, you still have a long way to go. Realise people, when you have it, you KNOW IT, you dont question it, you feel it in every part of yourself.

It comes only when you've thrown every insecurity out the window. When you stop asking if its right or wrong, and you just know its the right thing for you to do. When your essence is able to shine through a crowd without any gold necklaces or unique clothing or hairstyles. Money becomes nothing more than a method of having fun and supporting yourself. When personal possessions are all but moot in your eyes, then and ONLY then will you have reached a stage long sought by every religion in the history of mankind.


If you are that, than you are far beyond Don Juan.
 

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Ha ha, are you trippin bro? Because I remember feeling the way you do, when I used to trip balls with my friends in high school!

Just kidding bro! ;)

Anyway, on a more serious note, I agree with you that 'throwing all your insecurities out the window' is a good feeling, but I disagree about the Pook comments. I did not get your conclusions about him from his posts at all. If anything, he stopped short of understanding women. (A stupid and futile subject to try to understand IMO! :cool: ) I think he realized the same thing that you did: every 'tip' on this site is just a guideline, a 'compass' that ensures you do not 'fall of the cliff'.

You must walk yourself. Let your true nature out, and if you do not 'naturally' follow the 'dj guidelines' then you must search yourself even more to bring your true 'masculinity' out.

Clothes, money, possesions, hairstyles, etc. mean little in life, they are not the goal; what really matters is your WILL to do something.

Where there is a will, there is a way.

Do you will to get a 9.5 into an LTR? Do you will to become an erudite master of classic literature? Do you will to make people feel better about themselves? Do you will to make your body the best that it can be? Do you will to make that last shot? Do you will to create that successful business?

When it comes down to it, this is all that matters.

I believe that the goal in life is to use our will to surmount any obsticale that we can muster. But the first step, is surmounting ourselves.
 

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pook in his more recent posts examines both men and woman on a largely biological level. Such as his secret of the jerk post, he believes thats what all women will respond to and nothing else. Anybody that believes that isnt gonna be too happy in the long run. And for that reason is why he has failed himself.
 

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Hahahahahaha. :)

Jester's manifestation of Carl Jung's theory of '46 and 2'.

Jung beleived we must embrace our shadow, all of our insecurities and will evolve into a higher being.

I think Jester is saying the same thing, except evolving into a higher level Don Juan.

I'd say, if you need to become more then a DJ you need to get a life --- quick. Honestly, I understand the desire to get even better with women -- but get a job already. Who has time?
 

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Originally posted by Jester
pook in his more recent posts examines both men and woman on a largely biological level. Such as his secret of the jerk post, he believes thats what all women will respond to and nothing else. Anybody that believes that isnt gonna be too happy in the long run. And for that reason is why he has failed himself.
No man, no. The Secret of the Jerk used the example of the "beautiful woman" to show that she is saved for the testosteronized guys. That is, in order to get the best chicks (read: top notch, super estrogenized, super feminine) a man needs to embrace his testosterone.

Pook's philosophy was always "Be a Man!". As people we can be either Man, Woman, or androgenous. Sorry, but androgenous does not get the hot chicks. So, in order to 'get chicks' we have to be men. In TSotJ, Pook just takes a look at men. What makes a man a man? The answer: testosterone! Now, what does testosterone do actually? What are the effects?

Impulsiveness, muscles, fat loss, feeling good, athletisism, wit, etc....all traits that women love. (Not the ONLY traits, but these traits are good enough. :D )

And what does a lack of testosterone mean?

Depression, fat storage, muscle loss, etc....all traits that women "abohor and shun."

He did not set forth any 'strategy' or 'philosophy' that nature did not already put into play. All Pook said was "embrace your testosterone and be a man!" There are many different ways to embrace your testosterone.

Oh, and the "beautiful woman" was a symbol for the estrogenized female. Think about women for a second, (ahh!) the estrogen makes them crazy! :eek: Every month they cycle through, hormones ripping apart thier psyche. Nothing ever remains static for a chick, they are always evaluating and reevaluating things, changing thier minds. The estrogenized female needs a pillar of strength to lean on during her life, someone that wont waiver and cave in to her ever changing whims. Testosterone enables this to happen for a man. (It breeds action, and not reaction, she must try to 'be good' so he does not toss her aside, because she is trying to 'catch him', he always wants to go do other things...)

He was not saying that women will only respond to one thing, he was just explaining nature. But there is more to it, "there is always more to it".

Say what you want about women, but when it comes down to it, they are very different from men and want different things in thier sexual partners.

Men do not have a monthly cycle making them crazy.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

thecraftylefty

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Originally posted by Jester
I'm not there yet either, but im close. I can see the finish line, but I can't see the obstacles still in my way. How many of you are experiencing the same right now? There must be atleast a few, I can feel you out there.
The closer you believe you are to coming to and end the farther away you actually are.

I was in a bar last night and struck up a conversation with an older woman. It was very eye-opening to say the least. The first time I'd sarged an older woman. We discussed so many topics ranging from marriage (and she was married), sex, and men and women in general. This lady was very impressed with my thorough knowledge of man/woman interactions, seeing as how young I was compared to her many years of experience. But I also learned a lot along the way: You neither want (or need) to know some of the things other people know. You'll understand what I mean eventually.

"If your rap is strong it can't go wrong."

thecraftylefty
 

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Originally posted by Smooth as Anything
I think Jester is saying the same thing, except evolving into a higher level Don Juan.

I'd say, if you need to become more then a DJ you need to get a life --- quick. Honestly, I understand the desire to get even better with women -- but get a job already. Who has time?
You have this all wrong. He isn't just saying get better with women, he's also saying improve yourself. If you think that improving yourself is a waste of time, then you don't have a life.

That should be everyone's goal at this site. To improve your life. Why did you come to this site? To learn how to get women in the sack? I know i didn't. i came here looking for a way to improve myself. If you don't have any time to improve your life then you don't know what being a DJ is all about.

Being a DJ is about becoming the best person you can. It's not all about getting women. Once you start becoming better and better you will start feeling better about yourself. Getting women is just a little bonus. So all i'm saying is being a DJ is not really about getting women. It's about being the best you can.

Jester, I agree with your theory. I think that you can always become a better DJ. You can always find room to improve. You will never acheive perfection, but don't strive for anything less. Keep improving yourself in everyway untill the day you die and you will have no regrets in your life.
 

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As of late it seems liks the masses are multiples of misogynistic men mouring over a woman who did them wrong.

I thought about creating a new thread, but then I decided to do a little research before I went and vented, and in the original post, Jesters says what I was trying to portray.

Stop speed reading and actually listen to what is being said, a Don Juan notices the small things in the world and loves what makes every day so unique.
This site does not teach you not to be a cold hearted womanizer who never allows himself to be vulnerable. It teaches you to fall in love as a DON JUAN not an AFC. Don't forget that!

"I do not seduce women. I offer them a gift. Of course,
this gift is the greatest passion they will ever know in their lives"
- Don Juan DeMarco


Love is a human experience unlike any other, do not deny yourself your emotions, revel in them. DO NOT BECOME A MACHINE

To deny our impulses is to deny what makes us human - Matrix
 

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Bump.
 
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