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Beta men are essential for current world order

Bokanovsky

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skinnyguy said:
Alphas also pander to women.

They work out and make money to impress women.
Working out and making money does not make one alpha. Alpha is a state of mind. It's not a status that you achieve through wealth or big muscles.
 

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Alpha is not a state of mind, it is a position: the dominant male, the top male, the #1 male.
 

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zekko said:
Alpha is not a state of mind, it is a position: the dominant male, the top male, the #1 male.
But you become so by being alpha mentally. Your position merely helps you achieve that mental state and provides the framework for it. That's why I also don't believe that being alpha is limited to one male in a setting, it's a characteristic.
 

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AttackFormation said:
But you become so by being alpha mentally. Your position merely helps you achieve that mental state and provides the framework for it. That's why I also don't believe that being alpha is limited to one male in a setting, it's a characteristic.
If you explain me how woody allen can be an alpha in a hardcore gym or a bikers gathering through an inner mindset I'll transfer 100 euros in your bank account.
 

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JohnyTheArrow said:
If I would rule the world I would make sure there is never ending stream of beta men.........Betas are pure gold......Beta fate is to be exploited until there is nothing more to exploit from him[/B]
Johny I agree wholeheartedly with this post. Excellent Macro Analysis over the market. The only issue I see going forward is that a lot of guys are going to be forced into the Beta role no matter if they want to or not.

I personally do not like the labels of Alpha and Beta, because I don't know how a guy can be 100% either/or. I'm an Alpha in my house yes, but I'm not an Alpha when I'm out on a Sales Call, I'm very much the Beta seeking to "service" the client who is the Alpha.

Gynocentrism and Feminism are forcing Men into "service" roles to Women on a wider scale. Everything from the Legal System, the Media, Movies, Corporations, Academia, and the Social Life related areas have ALL put Women in the "Alpha" position to be serviced by all of the Men (Betas).

As a Man today, you are very much a Customer Service Agent and Women are very much your Customer. She wants it "her way" and your job is to fix her damn Whopper with light Mayo, extra cheese, extra lettuce and extra tomatoes.

- If you do that, then you get the "prize" which is that BOX between her legs along with the various Social Proof related benefits that come from having a chick on your shoulder.

- If you refuse to do this, not only do you NOT get that BOX, but you most likely will be shamed by society, your sexuality will be questioned, and you will be labeled a sociopath/outkast as result.
 

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Bokanovsky said:
Working out and making money does not make one alpha. Alpha is a state of mind. It's not a status that you achieve through wealth or big muscles.
Alpha is not a status you achieve through a state of mind. Anyone can pretend to act "alpha", that doesn't make them a true alpha in real life. People here have no clue what an alpha is.
 

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Octogonal said:
Alpha is not a status you achieve through a state of mind. Anyone can pretend to act "alpha", that doesn't make them a true alpha in real life. People here have no clue what an alpha is.
Agree with Octogonal, alpha is a status. I don't blame the people here, I blame the PUA gurus who are putting out misinformation: That alpha is a mindset, that sociopaths are to be admired, that every guy should think he is a 10, that all morality is bad, etc.

I've only recently come to realize the level of ignorance that exists in this community - it's because they are subject to almost constant misinformation and indoctrination. In other words, garbage in, garbage out.
 

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zekko said:
Agree with Octogonal, alpha is a status. I don't blame the people here, I blame the PUA gurus who are putting out misinformation: That alpha is a mindset, that sociopaths are to be admired, that every guy should think he is a 10, that all morality is bad, etc.

I've only recently come to realize the level of ignorance that exists in this community - it's because they are subject to almost constant misinformation and indoctrination. In other words, garbage in, garbage out.
Bang on Zekko.

All this alpha beta talk is ridiculous. Any man can be a so-called alpha in one situation and a so-called beta in the next situation and vice versa. Also anyone else can see one man as beta where as others see them as alpha in different situations which is subjective.

One man could be in an LTR with a woman every other so-called alpha wants but can't have and be called a so-called beta and on and on.


All this nonsense of alphas and betas sounds like jealous betas pretending to be alpha to delude themselves and justify their jealousy of others.
 

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zekko said:
Agree with Octogonal, alpha is a status. I don't blame the people here, I blame the PUA gurus who are putting out misinformation: That alpha is a mindset, that sociopaths are to be admired, that every guy should think he is a 10, that all morality is bad, etc.
If alpha is a status, if you are POTUS, but scared of your wife, is that alpha? If alpha is a mindset, if you have the strongest mindset out there but living on the streets, is that alpha? So much confusion.

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Alpha is not a status you achieve through a state of mind. Anyone can pretend to act "alpha", that doesn't make them a true alpha in real life. People here have no clue what an alpha is.
Bro you can't tell us what it's not, then say people have no clue what it is, and then not say what it is. :trouble:
 

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Bokanovsky said:
Working out and making money does not make one alpha. Alpha is a state of mind. It's not a status that you achieve through wealth or big muscles.
I agree. One of the biggest pieces of sh!t I have ever known, who thankfully finally killed himself with drugs, was a guy who was alpha as hell. He never worked out or had money.
 

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Octogonal said:
Alpha is not a status you achieve through a state of mind. Anyone can pretend to act "alpha", that doesn't make them a true alpha in real life. People here have no clue what an alpha is.
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Alpha is not blowing smoke up peoples' ass*s like you just did either.
 

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zekko said:
Agree with Octogonal, alpha is a status. I don't blame the people here, I blame the PUA gurus who are putting out misinformation: That alpha is a mindset, that sociopaths are to be admired, that every guy should think he is a 10, that all morality is bad, etc.

I've only recently come to realize the level of ignorance that exists in this community - it's because they are subject to almost constant misinformation and indoctrination. In other words, garbage in, garbage out.

Yup.

And the point I was trying to make is that a lot of "alphas" are slaves to women.

Dwight Howard pays child support to 8 baby mamas. He is alpha or beta?
 

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Gee. It's almost like it's a spectrum of interconnected traits and that some matter more than others but all contribute, instead of black and white.
 

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Trump said:
If alpha is a status, if you are POTUS, but scared of your wife, is that alpha?
This is what is called "situational alpha". Obviously in many situations, the POTUS has full authority and is most certainly the alpha.

If he is afraid of his wife - well, as I said before even betas should have leadership over their women. If they do not, that is the effect of feminism, the destruction of the nuclear family, and the emasculation of men.
 
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