Danger says,
This is way off base. Sosuave teaches men that part of the problem is in THEMSELVES and that they should be MEN, not women.
Okay, but how does, "Most American Women Are Crap" threads and conspiracy theories help a guy be a man? I'm all for the type of threads you describe Danger, if you look back to when Sosuave was just starting those types of threads made this forum pretty good "back then." Those threads are not here anymore Danger.
The Discussion Forum is full of whiners.
The Mature Man Forum is full of conspiracy theories.
In the middle of that you have guys giving out "tips" on how to get women that have NOT been tested out in the field but are merely copy and paste threads from other posters.
That's 90% of the forum.
There ARE NO DISCUSSIONS on natural masculinity around here. You type up a field report and get NO REPLIES.
Is this a thread that teaches a man how to be a man Danger? I don't think so, it's another conspiracy theory/forum rhetoric based thread. It's a thread to get "rah rah rah" the "OP or Guru" is such a great writer type of thread. It's not a thread that makes a guy sit back and THINK about himself and his passion and his destiny in life. NO, those threads no longer exist on this forum.
We don't talk about how to be better men around here, we instead talk about how women are low quality or how some guy we seen today was so "AFC" or some other dumb shyt. We agrue about do Looks Matter or Personality Matter more when it's OBVIOUS to everyone that it all matters! We argue on whether or not you need to be rich to get hot women when it's obvious to everyone that only 1% of the population is categorized as rich and it's OBVIOUS that rich guys are NOT the only guys getting the girls.
Danger where are the quality discussions?? Don't attack me and call me a mangina. Don't attack me and say go to Loveshack. Don't attack me and say I'm really a girl behind the keyboard. Matter of fact, STOP focusing on me period.
Let's focus on the forum. Let's focus on how this forum has turned into a svcking fest. Let's focus on that because at the end of the day, I could be a 75 year old rich guy behind this screen name or a guy typing out of a cave, you will NEVER be able to figure me out! So let's just focus on the forum and why it svcks?
Rollo says,
Someone's gotta unplug chumps from the Matrix. Chumps like you.
Those are great examples, but I DISAGREE on HOW you choose to help those guys. I disagree with the fact that there needs to be a model "standard" of a MAN that other guys need to try and live up to, and if they DON'T, then they are casted off as an AFC or Chump or whatever.
If the guy wants to hang onto a girl that's ****ing him over, you can offer advice to him Rollo but what IF he doesn't WANT to change? What if the guy LOVES being miserable?
When a FAT person goes to the doctor and the doctor says if you don't stop eating fast food all day and go workout, then you will have a heart attack, but then the guy STILL continues down the same path, is there any HELP FOR THAT GUY??
My problem is that you are developing this movement, this "ideal male standard," this stupid ass forum rhetoric crap, in an attempt to save the unsaveable.
You end up NOT saving those you intended because they won't LET YOU, and you end up HARMING those that prescribe to this bull**** because this "male religion based crap" actually HARMS creativity and spontaneity.
It's creativity and spontaneitythat gets women, NOT stale techniques you read off the internet!
BOTH GENDERS, have fvcked up people in them! For every example you just gave Rollo, I can give you an example of that SAME THING happening to a woman. Think I'm lying? I can post the situations AND give you folks to call to verify them. Does that mean that NOW I go out and try to "save the hurt women" or "save the women that put up with this ****?"
I am disgusted with the crap and WRONG information you guys put out there about women. The vast generalizations, the stupid azz assumptions, I am sick of it.
And it's stupid for a guy to say that just because another guy gets tired of reading this crap, that's he's obvious a feminist. Newsflash, SOME OF US ON THIS FORUM are not conspiracy theorists like you! Some of us aren't keyboard jockeys like you!
Some of us actually LIKE WOMEN, wowww, what a thought huh?? A guy on Sosuave that actually LIKES WOMEN, well, isn't that guy a mangina!