Beta Cuck Reflects Upon Pandemic Being Last Straw of Marriage

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Reminds me of what happened to me. My ex went on a skiing trip for 2 days with a girlfriend of hers. When she came back, she was unusually moody/bitchy and kept asking me to buy her more stuff (I was a really cheap fvck to be honest and I regret not spoiling her a little bit more but still). I don't know till this day if she did anything on the trip but just some food for thought...
Never spoil. A gift here an there, that's cool. A gift or a few inexpensive gifts on her birthday and Christmas, cool. Spoil, not cool and will come back to haunt you later on.
 

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Never spoil. A gift here an there, that's cool. A gift or a few inexpensive gifts on her birthday and Christmas, cool. Spoil, not cool and will come back to haunt you later on.
Yeah, I was a d*ck though. I almost never bought her anything.
 

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Never spoil. A gift here an there, that's cool. A gift or a few inexpensive gifts on her birthday and Christmas, cool. Spoil, not cool and will come back to haunt you later on.

a friend of the girl I'm seeing has been in a relationship for a year with a man and apparently he has bought her a flashy car with personal plate, £1500 pair of shoes etc. seems like setting the wrong tone to me.

why do you think it will come back to haunt later on? more likely attract a gold digger type?
 

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While what happened to him is sad, and I'm sure it is difficult for him, it is just another example demonstrating how men and women love differently, and that most men simply don't understand this or how to handle it.

A woke and experienced man will always maintain himself as a high value man (and contrary to assumptions, this guy MAY have done that, we don't know), and just as importantly, he will understand the signs of a failing relationship and will manage the woman accordingly. My own assumption is that there were plenty more signs from her prior to her taking the girl's trip. If there weren't, the second she took her ring off and started acting distant, he should have responded in-kind by making himself scarce and talking to other women at the VERY least and probably should have kicked her out or moved out on his own too. But I still think there were signs prior to that. Most guys just don't know what to look for because their eyes aren't open, they don't understand how women work, and because they are crippled by a scarcity mindset.
 

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People outside of you can damage your life.
The point I am making is that life is cyclical, people are creatures of habit, what worked for them before will absolutely be employed again under the same circumstances... You can't ever really be prepared the first time, but the next time you have to be and if the first time is a dire consequence for you, then you should surround yourself with people who can help you recognize those things and be prepared the first time around, no excuses.
 

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a friend of the girl I'm seeing has been in a relationship for a year with a man and apparently he has bought her a flashy car with personal plate, £1500 pair of shoes etc. seems like setting the wrong tone to me.

why do you think it will come back to haunt later on? more likely attract a gold digger type?
Is the female there for him or what he can provide to her? That is what a person needs to ask themselves in this type of situation. I'll be honest, I've never spent that much money on a female in my life; that includes my ex-wife's engagement ring (not counting for inflation). Though, she did spend more for me on a few occasions. I am not against gifts, but nothing too crazy or extravagant.
 

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The point I am making is that life is cyclical, people are creatures of habit, what worked for them before will absolutely be employed again under the same circumstances... You can't ever really be prepared the first time, but the next time you have to be and if the first time is a dire consequence for you, then you should surround yourself with people who can help you recognize those things and be prepared the first time around, no excuses.
Even when others damage us we can take responsibility for not keeping our business to ourselves. Talking to and being around the right people is they key just like you say.
 

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Sometimes the most unexpected publications have non-blue pill stories. This story is quite red pill. It was published in April in the early days of the pandemic.

https://www.texasmonthly.com/being-texan/coronavirus-divorce/

Highlights
  • Seemingly childless couple (children not mentioned in article) in their 30s lives in Austin, TX, an SJW/feminist city
  • Guy is 38, and played college basketball. Based on other clues in the article (his hobbies), he's likely white. Probably 6'0"+ since he was a college basketball player. He was likely a one time alpha before becoming immersed in the Austin culture. It's probably how they initially got together 7 years earlier.
  • Woman seems to fit the feminist/careerist mold, as a finance professional who is into running marathons.
  • In Summer 2019, wife takes international trip with female friends. Gets back to Austin, stops wearing ring, becomes emotionally and physically more distant. She likely had sex with random men while traveling internationally, making the guy a cuck.
  • Wife was avoiding sex with husband in months prior to quarantine
  • In quarantine, husband catches wife video chatting with some man and not being cold. Man was likely some lover.

Lessons
  • Always keep striving and don't get complacent. If a 6'0"+ ex-college athlete can turn into a beta cuck, it can happen to anyone
  • Don't stay in relationships too long, only stay as long as the relationship is good
  • Avoid SJW/feminist cities. If not that, then avoid the most feminist/SJW social circles within those cities
  • If your long term girlfriend or wife travels without you and the marriage hasn't been good lately, she will have sex with other men on that trip.
The kind of woman that needs to go on trips with female friends shouldn't be married in the first place. We all know what happens when women travel.
 

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The kind of woman that needs to go on trips with female friends shouldn't be married in the first place. We all know what happens when women travel.
Women with long term boyfriends and married women shouldn't be traveling recreationally with friends.

Before the pandemic, there were plenty of business women who traveled without their boyfriends or husbands. There were some women who used business trips as a way to have sex with other men without getting caught.
 

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Women with long term boyfriends and married women shouldn't be traveling recreationally with friends.

Before the pandemic, there were plenty of business women who traveled without their boyfriends or husbands. There were some women who used business trips as a way to have sex with other men without getting caught.
That sh1t is all fvcked up.
 

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a friend of the girl I'm seeing has been in a relationship for a year with a man and apparently he has bought her a flashy car with personal plate, £1500 pair of shoes etc. seems like setting the wrong tone to me.

why do you think it will come back to haunt later on? more likely attract a gold digger type?
Those situations end badly.
 

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Those situations end badly.
Yeah when she told me about her friend I said that seems to be setting the wrong tone, my girl just went quiet and the conversation moved on.

Wonder if mean is expecting the same 'spoilt' treatment.

Must put pressure on the male, what happens if you hit hard times in a few years and have to readjust your lifestyle? Guessing it's highly likely they'll bail, using g some other excuse.
 

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Yeah when she told me about her friend I said that seems to be setting the wrong tone, my girl just went quiet and the conversation moved on.

Wonder if mean is expecting the same 'spoilt' treatment.

Must put pressure on the male, what happens if you hit hard times in a few years and have to readjust your lifestyle? Guessing it's highly likely they'll bail, using g some other excuse.
Your girl told you about her friend?
Girls love to tell you stories about their friends to gauge where you're in this matter and covertly communicate what they want, since they are hive creatures that want what other girls want.

She definately wants the same treatment but they all want to be treated like princesses deep down, that's what they're told growing up, "you're beautiful as you are, you deserve only the best prince who treats you that way" and it sounds sensible in theory, doesn't it?
In reality human beings don't appreciate things we don't have to work for and spoiling doesn't increase attraction in any way, so it blows up and sets a toxic standard going forward. Spoiling, if anything communicates over compensating.
So only reward women when they've been good to you and sprinkle in some spontaneous gifts, that sets a better pattern. For one she will appreciate it much more and she will also continue to be good more since it makes her feel good.
 

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Your girl told you about her friend?
Girls love to tell you stories about their friends to gauge where you're in this matter and covertly communicate what they want, since they are hive creatures that want what other girls want.

She definately wants the same treatment but they all want to be treated like princesses deep down, that's what they're told growing up, "you're beautiful as you are, you deserve only the best prince who treats you that way" and it sounds sensible in theory, doesn't it?
In reality human beings don't appreciate things we don't have to work for and spoiling doesn't increase attraction in any way, so it blows up and sets a toxic standard going forward. Spoiling, if anything communicates over compensating.
So only reward women when they've been good to you and sprinkle in some spontaneous gifts, that sets a better pattern. For one she will appreciate it much more and she will also continue to be good more since it makes her feel good.

Yeah she told me last weekend. She also told me her friend is into 'watersports' :D


But yes buying a car and stuff like that does seem extreme, to say the least.
 

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Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp, George Clooney, all been divorced. If they can’t make it work, average males don’t stand a chance.
Aaron Clarey has a book and the data is baffling. It is aimed at the average man but hypergamy doesn't pick average. It's aimed toward the 80% in the Pareto distribution. The metrics show that awful ROI in the business arrangement but simps continue to line up. I feel no sympathy.

Don’t understand why men get married in Western culture. Femnism is alive and well. The system is behind the women in all cases. Men have been brainwashed to marry for love. Women marry for resources, resources, resources. NOT LOVE.
It's a scheme that is a simple redistribution method from men to women. Child bearing being another. Aaron estimates a bachelor male can get by on 18k USD. Bare bones minimalism. Rice and beans. Beans and rice lulz. On the ten yrs plus of pickup I'd met 0 minimalist baeeees. Who would have guessed? Net tax spender aren't minimalist.


1) If a woman LOVES a man, why does she need to get married? She LOVES him marriage or not marriage, right?

2) If a woman LOVES a man, she will sign a iron clad prenup getting the same thing she got from the man who took her virginity?

3) If a woman LOVES a man, she doesn’t care about his job, income, past history, previous relationships, or finances,

4) If a woman LOVES a man, she will tell him “my goal is to life is be known as your husband and give you children.”

Women are out for themselves. Wake up men.
Resources are necessary to make kids and survive. The man needs a job. The problem we have is that she got her **** pushed in at her best FREE and wants to charge top dollar post wall or nearly.

I started the journey with blue pill idealism. Game force feeds a man red pills. Going through the fire, you get black pilled and are bombarded by female nature. The amount of time women who are married, had a bf or something of that liking took. There's no coming back from. Santa is not real.

After you reintegrate Being following red pill rage and you are oriented to what is, you still have to turn on the charm. You still need to be enthusiastic about what is likely to be a one and done thot, young, ditzy baeee who cannot **** her way out of a wet paper back. And repeat.
 

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Aaron Clarey has a book and the data is baffling. It is aimed at the average man but hypergamy doesn't pick average. It's aimed toward the 80% in the Pareto distribution. The metrics show that awful ROI in the business arrangement but simps continue to line up. I feel no sympathy.



It's a scheme that is a simple redistribution method from men to women. Child bearing being another. Aaron estimates a bachelor male can get by on 18k USD. Bare bones minimalism. Rice and beans. Beans and rice lulz. On the ten yrs plus of pickup I'd met 0 minimalist baeeees. Who would have guessed? Net tax spender aren't minimalist.




Resources are necessary to make kids and survive. The man needs a job. The problem we have is that she got her **** pushed in at her best FREE and wants to charge top dollar post wall or nearly.

I started the journey with blue pill idealism. Game force feeds a man red pills. Going through the fire, you get black pilled and are bombarded by female nature. The amount of time women who are married, had a bf or something of that liking took. There's no coming back from. Santa is not real.

After you reintegrate Being following red pill rage and you are oriented to what is, you still have to turn on the charm. You still need to be enthusiastic about what is likely to be a one and done thot, young, ditzy baeee who cannot **** her way out of a wet paper back. And repeat.
I don't know or have ever known even one woman who is a minimalist. That includes all female family members except for the two grandmothers of course. Broads born in the 20's and 30's know whats up. And they're all dropping dead now from corona and age.

Some of the females posting on the various DR baby steps facebook groups have sounded minimalist, but I know female nature too.

Why am I not minimalist? I lived on way less than 18k USD a year when I first moved out at 23 years old. Didn't I?


I was just wondering the other day if the reason I hang on to debt is to have an excuse to work. Smdh.
Why not build up investments as an excuse to work?

Its like, what? I don't really need that as a motivator.

Not being minimalist is like selfabuse.

Why do I spend so much at grocery stores? I know how to shop better. Come on. 150. CAD for 4 full bags last night when tired and just looking for convenience.

Driving further and burning 4. CAD gas could have saved me 75-100. CAD groceries I bet. I know better.

My reading/resting/park exercising almost 3 week vacation starts in a little over a week from now. Just try to hang on until then.
 

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Aaron Clarey broke down the numbers and it's just not available for the average man. The high value man is a mark for psychopaths and sociopath female predators.
Aaron Clarey has a book and the data is baffling. It is aimed at the average man but hypergamy doesn't pick average. It's aimed toward the 80% in the Pareto distribution. The metrics show that awful ROI in the business arrangement but simps continue to line up. I feel no sympathy.
Marriage has become a bad deal for men in recent decades. I would say marriages started from 1990-present are bad deals for men, and the 1975-1989 started marriages were marching that way.

If you’ve gotten married since 1990, there’s about an 80% chance at least one of the following things has happened to you as a result of getting married…

  • One or more partners has an affair. In recent decades, women’s cheating rates have nearly equaled men’s rates. Before 1990, men were having affairs much more than women.
  • A divorce. Likely occurring because someone had an affair. Occasionally someone opts out of a marriage before an affair but realizes that they want to start having sex with others.
  • A marriage that doesn’t end but isn’t exactly a great time. Often long periods of a dead bedroom. Often a lot of disagreements and unpleasant feelings.

The problem is that it is a dumpster fire and fellas are trying to play house with *****s. While it is to be expected that she's dated and had boyfriends before you or I, it's common practice for men to have concessions for a lifetime of whoring and gang bangs. I would say, 1/3 of women in my youth had been to a gang bang or orgy. Today, more than 2/3 has been middle of the gang bang or orgy. Cucks are marrying.

Men are not respected for following the beaten path nor should they be. Tbh I don't much like nor care for most women outside my busting a nut. Before screams of misogyny, what caliber of women are worthy of dating today? What miniscule among this is marriage material and mother worthy?

Men are not doing it right and need to remove it from the table. No concessions. No. I am not playing house with a *****. I will smash but trolling Hoes talking cereal relations. For optics, listen to Kevin Samuels segment from the position of what women want. They are on the carousel today and seeking a bail out post wall after. Peterson points out that among women quiting workplace after a kid. Wifey pooh still needs a mcmansion and the range rover.
Wifing up women with high notch counts is usually not a good idea and contributes to why most marriages are not good. Men having higher notch counts doesn’t help either, due to a greater propensity for seeking novelty. However, a high notch count is a worse scenario.

There are plenty of women that have not participated in a group sex event that have reasonably high notch counts. It’s not unusual to encounter a 30 year old single woman in a big city that hasn’t participated in group sex that still has 10+ lifetime partners. For a 30 year old woman, racking up 10 sexual partners in ~15 years of dating/relationships isn’t that difficult.

I don't know or have ever known even one woman who is a minimalist. That includes all female family members except for the two grandmothers of course. Broads born in the 20's and 30's know whats up. And they're all dropping dead now from corona and age.
A lot of women born in the 1920s died before the pandemic started. Those women were old enough to remember going through The Great Depression and World War II. They generally had higher character. A lot of those women were good bets in marriage and many of them had marriages that survived.

The first generation of women in the 1970s who engaged in no fault divorces were women born between 1935-1944. These were the first generation of career women in big cities. Some of them had the first tastes of sexual freedom in the late 1950s and early 1960s. The birth control pill started in 1960. A fictional example of this was Peggy Olson on “Mad Men”, whose character was born in 1939.

The women of the 1920s-1930s were still better options than the 1946-1964 Baby Boomer born women.

Reminds me of what happened to me. My ex went on a skiing trip for 2 days with a girlfriend of hers. When she came back, she was unusually moody/bitchy and kept asking me to buy her more stuff (I was a really cheap fvck to be honest and I regret not spoiling her a little bit more but still). I don't know till this day if she did anything on the trip but just some food for thought...
You’ll never know. You did the right thing getting out of that.
 

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Marriage has become a bad deal for men in recent decades. I would say marriages started from 1990-present are bad deals for men, and the 1975-1989 started marriages were marching that way.

If you’ve gotten married since 1990, there’s about an 80% chance at least one of the following things has happened to you as a result of getting married…

  • One or more partners has an affair. In recent decades, women’s cheating rates have nearly equaled men’s rates. Before 1990, men were having affairs much more than women.
  • A divorce. Likely occurring because someone had an affair. Occasionally someone opts out of a marriage before an affair but realizes that they want to start having sex with others.
  • A marriage that doesn’t end but isn’t exactly a great time. Often long periods of a dead bedroom. Often a lot of disagreements and unpleasant feelings.



Wifing up women with high notch counts is usually not a good idea and contributes to why most marriages are not good. Men having higher notch counts doesn’t help either, due to a greater propensity for seeking novelty. However, a high notch count is a worse scenario.

There are plenty of women that have not participated in a group sex event that have reasonably high notch counts. It’s not unusual to encounter a 30 year old single woman in a big city that hasn’t participated in group sex that still has 10+ lifetime partners. For a 30 year old woman, racking up 10 sexual partners in ~15 years of dating/relationships isn’t that difficult.



A lot of women born in the 1920s died before the pandemic started. Those women were old enough to remember going through The Great Depression and World War II. They generally had higher character. A lot of those women were good bets in marriage and many of them had marriages that survived.

The first generation of women in the 1970s who engaged in no fault divorces were women born between 1935-1944. These were the first generation of career women in big cities. Some of them had the first tastes of sexual freedom in the late 1950s and early 1960s. The birth control pill started in 1960. A fictional example of this was Peggy Olson on “Mad Men”, whose character was born in 1939.

The women of the 1920s-1930s were still better options than the 1946-1964 Baby Boomer born women.



You’ll never know. You did the right thing getting out of that.
I know about the show but haven't watched any episodes. I'll see what I can find tonight about that character.
 

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Marriage has become a bad deal for men in recent decades. I would say marriages started from 1990-present are bad deals for men, and the 1975-1989 started marriages were marching that way.
I don't disagree. I am brutally honest with my thoughts here and it's no shot at anybody. Many of my Muslim mates from bjj are die hard trad. I am a bit critical of Rollo but I like him overall. I think religious men will need to get the book to combat the problem within the mosque and church. I did real alpha God. It was well researched but Garcia is a simp and male feminist. I blame low testosterone.

If you’ve gotten married since 1990, there’s about an 80% chance at least one of the following things has happened to you as a result of getting married…

  • One or more partners has an affair. In recent decades, women’s cheating rates have nearly equaled men’s rates. Before 1990, men were having affairs much more than women.
  • A divorce. Likely occurring because someone had an affair. Occasionally someone opts out of a marriage before an affair but realizes that they want to start having sex with others.
  • A marriage that doesn’t end but isn’t exactly a great time. Often long periods of a dead bedroom. Often a lot of disagreements and unpleasant feelings.
stoning existed for a a reason. It removed filth from the gene pool.

I am not advocating violence but rather pointing out that reality. Unfortunately, this is where we are in clown world. The dumpster fire is a by product of concessions.

Wifing up women with high notch counts is usually not a good idea and contributes to why most marriages are not good. Men having higher notch counts doesn’t help either, due to a greater propensity for seeking novelty. However, a high notch count is a worse scenario.
I am reading the vedas and the yoga sutras. The amount of sperm and masculinity running in a woman's vagina today is literally unheard of. It is a bit woo woo but listen to the female logic and behaviour of high notch count women. Very masculine, belligerent, and zero femininity. This is a disaster.

It stems from cawk envy.

There are plenty of women that have not participated in a group sex event that have reasonably high notch counts. It’s not unusual to encounter a 30 year old single woman in a big city that hasn’t participated in group sex that still has 10+ lifetime partners. For a 30 year old woman, racking up 10 sexual partners in ~15 years of dating/relationships isn’t that difficult.
my point here is that women can run up a triple digit notch count. Guys are bending the knee and concessions to Hoes. I feel zero sympathy with the predicament and abundance of data out there.



A lot of women born in the 1920s died before the pandemic started. Those women were old enough to remember going through The Great Depression and World War II. They generally had higher character. A lot of those women were good bets in marriage and many of them had marriages that survived.

The first generation of women in the 1970s who engaged in no fault divorces were women born between 1935-1944. These were the first generation of career women in big cities. Some of them had the first tastes of sexual freedom in the late 1950s and early 1960s. The birth control pill started in 1960. A fictional example of this was Peggy Olson on “Mad Men”, whose character was born in 1939.
I respect the greatest generation but they ****ed up raising the boomers. Showering them with crap and setting off the dumpster fire we have today. They gave because they came out of the great depression.

women of the 1920s-1930s were still better options than the 1946-1964 Baby Boomer born women.


You’ll never know. You did the right thing getting out of that.
The numbers are terrifying. Parts of me wish I was plugged into the matrix still. The great problem men have now is that pursuit after the red pill staring in the abyss and going elsewhere.

I know what Moses felt like in the desert lulz. Not SrS but you know what I mean.
 
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