Best cities in the US for men.

[Good Gao]

I was debating whether I want to do a list for worst cities or best first, decided to start off on a good note. As any man would admit, location means a great deal for most guys out there. Unless you are the top 1% of men who is society's ideal (trust fund baby with genetically blessed looks gifted with a big social circle), the city you are in has a big influence on how happy you will be as well as how much dating success you will have.

The cities I have put on my list are on my list because any guy who is in great shape, has tight game, and stuff going for him in life (decent career and some cash) can date hot girls without:

1. Needing some BS status.

2. Having to find his way into tight knit social circles to even have a chance.

3. Having to resort to going for hot girls not of his type (for example, a guy who is into white girls being forced to date black girls in a city).

These are cities where dating apps, night game, and daygame work for guys that want to meet attractive women.

5. Nashville, TN.

Hot southern blondes who are approachable and chill as well as women of other types. Southern hospitality gone right and a lot of down to earth good looking women who don't have abnormally high standards. As a guy who loves white women, this has to be one of the best cities in the country to game them in, although other cities do have it beat by an inch. I have always found Tennessee girls to be a lot more fun and approachable than southern girls from other states but that is a topic for when I do a list of the worst cities for men.

4. Austin, TX.

Texas girls are fine as f-ck, anyone that is denying this is clearly sour over being rejected by them. IMO, the state has one of the hottest and most approachable girls in the entire country, truly a gem. I found the heat a bit bothersome as well as the fact that it is turning into a haven for Californians, which means stuckup prudish girls with massive egos, but it still manages to have its fun down to earth culture and approachable women. Definitely a city to be a place worth being in during your 20s.

3. Minneapolis, MN.

My main man @Solomon can speak to the greatness of this city, truly the place to be if you are into white girls and as someone who loves white women, its my favorite city for dating. Best part about it is that unlike San Francisco, any clean cut cool minority can slay there making it great for game. I find that the city for some reason has the hottest yet most approachable white women in the entire country, definitely belongs on my top 5.

2. Chicago, IL.

Staying in the underrated midwest where women are more down to earth in personality than their sisters in the coastal areas and the people remain friendly. I don't like it as much as Minneapolis because it has less white women but the city has a relatively friendly dating culture which puts it in my top 5. Also a great city to build a career and it has its variety of women. I hear Asian and ethnic guys will struggle there but others can speak to that on this thread.

And the best city is.....

wait for it.....

we are on our way......

the honor goes to.......

1. NEW YORK CITY!!!

THE CITY to be in, best gender ratios and a total f-ckfest. Women in their 20s move there to party and hook up with chill guys. I have heard largely anyone can do well in NYC as there is a scene for everyone there but the gender ratios as well as the culture put the city in the top spot. No other city can contend with NYC being the best place for men in North America. Women of all types and ratios that are friendlier than ever, I will run out of space to describe how awesome this city is.

Honorable mentions:

Miami

Orlando

Charleston

New Orleans

Las Vegas

Why cities in the honorable mention?

These cities in the honorable mention category are there because while the dating culture is amazing (especially in Charleston), the economic opportunities are not there for guys who want to build a career.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Chicago is awful for a big city lived here my whole life it fell off 15 years ago

 

[devilkingx2]

1. Needing some BS status.

2. Having to find his way into tight knit social circles to even have a chance.

that sounds like high school, are you fresh out of high school? lol

3. Having to resort to going for hot girls not of his type (for example, a guy who is into white girls being forced to date black girls in a city).

isn't the struggle of only having a taste for girls that don't like you something we learn to get over when we stop being AFCs/betas?

 

[Good Gao]

that sounds like high school, are you fresh out of high school? lol

isn't the struggle of only having a taste for girls that don't like you something we learn to get over when we stop being AFCs/betas?

No, the real world works the same way, its called status, look it up and then come talk to me when you know what you are talking about.

As for tastes, I like whoever I like, a real goes for women he is attracted to and if the environment doesn't allow it, he moves. Chumps and losers (prime example: you), go for whatever they can get because they don't really have much of a choice.

Now get off my thread and let real men speak.

 

[Trainwreck]

It depends on the guy tbh. I live in Nashville and it’s terrible for minorities because the culture of the city caters to young white americans. This is literally the perfect city for white people imho. Besides nashville I do terrible in other Anglo white dominated cities too like Atlanta, New Orleans, Charlotte, and etc. I’ve been treated like a king in Chicago and pretty much everywhere else though. Again it depends on the dude. If you are a loud bro extrovert type then you’ll probably do well in cities like Atlanta, Orlando, and Nashville but not as well in a city like Seattle.

 

[devilkingx2]

No, the real world works the same way, its called status, look it up and then come talk to me when you know what you are talking about.

I know what status is, and the way you're describing it, it sounds like you still think you're in high school where the cheerleaders only get with the jocks and cool kids

the only part of real life that describes would be if you're trying to bang rich people, famous people, athletes or people in hollywood, etc.

and since it sounds like you're thirsty for any white girl due to fetishes or bragging rights or some sort of weird arbitrary idea that white people are the best (which exists in a lot of cultures actually) I can tell you that you won't need any status unless you want to date a white victoria's secret angel

As for tastes, I like whoever I like, a real goes for women he is attracted to and if the environment doesn't allow it, he moves. Chumps and losers (prime example: you), go for whatever they can get because they don't really have much of a choice.

a real man moves just to get at a certain kind of woman? there are about a thousand things more pertinent to your choice of where to live than that (career opportunities, crime, things to do, weather patterns, etc.)

furthermore, I already live in NYC, I already have the choice of whatever I want including ethnicities I didn't even know existed. the difference between us is that I'm not stupid enough to focus on the tree that bears the least fruit.

 

[MatureDJ]

Boston was the worst. Like I said, you can do ok anywhere if you've got decent game, and I managed ok even there, but Boston is certainly one of those places where a lot of the native women date with extreme prejudice. Never seen anything like it. Even white guys with decent game can struggle if you're not either a die-hard, life long Sox fan with a Tom Brady man-crush or if you're not somewhere along the path to becoming a doctor, lawyer, etc. It's a great city for dating, though, and there seems plenty of women from abroad to make up for it. Dated quite a few Russian and Irish women straight from the motherland up there.

I must say au contraire. Boston has the most universities of any city, so there are lots of coeds around, making the women older than that feel the need to not be so picky. I have a friend who was not a slayer in the least bit, and in his 30s was getting set up left & right with at least demi-decent women, and ended up marrying one.

 

[MatureDJ]

It depends on the guy tbh. I live in Nashville and it’s terrible for minorities because the culture of the city caters to young white americans. This is literally the perfect city for white people imho. Besides nashville I do terrible in other Anglo white dominated cities too like Atlanta, New Orleans, Charlotte, and etc. I’ve been treated like a king in Chicago and pretty much everywhere else though. Again it depends on the dude. If you are a loud bro extrovert type then you’ll probably do well in cities like Atlanta, Orlando, and Nashville but not as well in a city like Seattle.

New Orleans is an "anglo" city? The mayor there during Katrina, Ray Nagin, said it was a "chocolate city".

 

[Trainwreck]

New Orleans is an "anglo" city? The mayor there during Katrina, Ray Nagin, said it was a "chocolate city".

Yes but the people with the money are white and it appeals to a lot of white people.

 

[Urbanyst]

What makes NYC awesome is the complete lack of social pressure to do anything or be anything. Whoever you are or whatever you are.. its "cool".

Ratio is fantastic. Variety is fantastic.

You largely ignored the rest of the East Coast. How do you rate Boston, Philly, Baltimore, Washington DC, Richmond, Atlanta? I'm curious.

 

[MatureDJ]

What makes NYC awesome is the complete lack of social pressure to do anything or be anything. Whoever you are or whatever you are.. its "cool".

Ratio is fantastic. Variety is fantastic.

Of course, the pressure to make enough money to live there decently isn't very cool. I prefer Eastern European cities because the cost of living and the women are so much better.

 

[Urbanyst]

Of course, the pressure to make enough money to live there decently isn't very cool. I prefer Eastern European cities because the cost of living and the women are so much better.

Yeah. its true.. but at least in NYC.. looks, MONEY and status seem to carry equal weight. So you can be pretty average and get HOT women. Simply because of the numbers and the diversity. No matter how weird you are.. there will be a HOT woman who is into that. Out of all the American cities.. NYC has the least rules. Pretty much anything goes.

If you go to a city like Washington DC or San Francisco.. you'll find MONEY and status will matter more than looks, style, game, talent, etc. You'll see bonafide nerds with no social skills and no style pull hotties regularly. Cities like Boston measure status by social connections. So if you don't know anyone a woman knows.. she probably won't mess with you. Philly has a bad ratio of HOT women. Most women are busted. The numbers suck. Never been to Atlanta.

 

[devilkingx2]

Yeah. its true.. but at least in NYC.. looks, MONEY and status seem to carry equal weight. So you can be pretty average and get HOT women. Simply because of the numbers and the diversity. No matter how weird you are.. there will be a HOT woman who is into that. Out of all the American cities.. NYC has the least rules. Pretty much anything goes.

If you go to a city like Washington DC or San Francisco.. you'll find MONEY and status will matter more than looks, style, game, talent, etc. You'll see bonafide nerds with no social skills and no style pull hotties regularly. Cities like Boston measure status by social connections. So if you don't know anyone a woman knows.. she probably won't mess with you. Philly has a bad ratio of HOT women. Most women are busted. The numbers suck. Never been to Atlanta.

I was always of the opinion that all you need are numbers and things for young people to do in a location and it's great for getting girls

If you don't have lots of girls in the location it'll be a really bad place to get girls unless your close rate is insanely high

And if the location is some nowheresville then it'll be hard to find the girls you're looking for since they won't be gathered anywhere

But if you have those two things anywhere should be good i think.

 

[RangerMIke]

New Orleans is an "anglo" city? The mayor there during Katrina, Ray Nagin, said it was a "chocolate city".

I live in NOLA. I think it is awesome, and one of the best places for women and dating I have ever lived. There is tons of low cost fun stuff to do, we have more festivals than days of the year, there is ALWAYS something going on. The percentage of the city that is black is high, about 60% I think and the African-American community most certainly dominates politically. The culture here is VERY Caribbean and really nothing like the rest of the country. I would definitely not categorize New Orleans as Anglo... unless you are referring to the sub-urbs around the city.

 

[Good Gao]

I know what status is, and the way you're describing it, it sounds like you still think you're in high school where the cheerleaders only get with the jocks and cool kids

the only part of real life that describes would be if you're trying to bang rich people, famous people, athletes or people in hollywood, etc.

and since it sounds like you're thirsty for any white girl due to fetishes or bragging rights or some sort of weird arbitrary idea that white people are the best (which exists in a lot of cultures actually) I can tell you that you won't need any status unless you want to date a white victoria's secret angel

a real man moves just to get at a certain kind of woman? there are about a thousand things more pertinent to your choice of where to live than that (career opportunities, crime, things to do, weather patterns, etc.)

furthermore, I already live in NYC, I already have the choice of whatever I want including ethnicities I didn't even know existed. the difference between us is that I'm not stupid enough to focus on the tree that bears the least fruit.

Oh how cute, you're trying to sound like you have experience when really you have the mind of a 14 year old shut-in.

Unlike you, most of us are not satisfied with picking up ugly women, you are because you don't really have many options.

As for being a "real man", when you have made it, things like career don't concern you too much because you have wealth, you're not scared of crime because you know it is restricted to poor parts of a lot of major cities, you find things to do based on what you like, and a bit of chill isn't enough to scare you.

You go to a place where your value will take you the highest with women.

Its not that you're stupid enough, you just don't have a lot of options so once again, let real men speak and take notes.

 

[Good Gao]

It depends on the guy tbh. I live in Nashville and it’s terrible for minorities because the culture of the city caters to young white americans. This is literally the perfect city for white people imho. Besides nashville I do terrible in other Anglo white dominated cities too like Atlanta, New Orleans, Charlotte, and etc. I’ve been treated like a king in Chicago and pretty much everywhere else though. Again it depends on the dude. If you are a loud bro extrovert type then you’ll probably do well in cities like Atlanta, Orlando, and Nashville but not as well in a city like Seattle.

I won't say Nashville is terrible for all minorities, at least not Asian and Indian guys. The white girls there are way more open to going for ethnic guys than white girls in Atlanta who are bougee trash.

As for Atlanta, it is going to go on my list of the worst cities because in order to do well there, you have to be born into the right social circles and have been in the right fraternities in college, Buckhead is practically SEC university 2.0

 

[Good Gao]

Just about any guy with decent game can do well in most places, but I've traveled around a bit and lived in several different cities over the years and have certainly noticed there is a varying "factor of ease/difficulty" from city to city when it comes to getting with attractive women.

NYC is definitely the easiest, by far. It's the kind of place where you can go out solo and do really well.

Tampa/Orlando can be some work if you're not from the area, but most guys can do ok if they don't fold under a higher rejection rate. Lots to do there. Great for dating.

Miami is fvcking awesome, but it can be tough without some kind of status. If you're young, fun and out with the boys, you can do alright. But definitely not the kind of place I would head out solo.

Boston was the worst. Like I said, you can do ok anywhere if you've got decent game, and I managed ok even there, but Boston is certainly one of those places where a lot of the native women date with extreme prejudice. Never seen anything like it. Even white guys with decent game can struggle if you're not either a die-hard, life long Sox fan with a Tom Brady man-crush or if you're not somewhere along the path to becoming a doctor, lawyer, etc. It's a great city for dating, though, and there seems plenty of women from abroad to make up for it. Dated quite a few Russian and Irish women straight from the motherland up there.

The issue I have with Boston is that it has two of the least attractive white heritage groups in it, the Irish are not known for producing good looking women and Italian women are regarded as being some of the ugliest in the world.

My issue with Boston is going to be the fact that there isn't much quality there at all compared to Minneapolis where you get blonde and pretty Nordic girls, in Boston you're stuck with tanned and dark curly haired guido trash women. No offense to Italians but their women are among the ugliest on the planet, it is rare to see a good looking Italian woman. Same goes for the Irish although I would argue Irish women are better looking.

 

[devilkingx2]

Oh how cute, you're trying to sound like you have experience when really you have the mind of a 14 year old shut-in.

pot meet kettle

Unlike you, most of us are not satisfied with picking up ugly women, you are because you don't really have many options.

baseless assumption.

or are you saying that all non-whites are ugly? or that only ugly white girls date non-whites?

As for being a "real man", when you have made it, things like career don't concern you too much because you have wealth, you're not scared of crime because you know it is restricted to poor parts of a lot of major cities, you find things to do based on what you like, and a bit of chill isn't enough to scare you.

this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

when the fvck will anyone be so rich that it doesn't matter if they can find a good job? you giving advice to CEOs and 65 year olds now?

also crime affects rich people too (Kim K got mugged recently there was a string of celebrity house break ins a few years ago), not only poor people get shot in chicago and people with more money are better targets for robberies or muggings

You go to a place where your value will take you the highest with women.

hey look, you said one smart thing. I agree, a dude with abs should live in miami and a rich guy should vacation in places that fetishize americans with money

Its not that you're stupid enough, you just don't have a lot of options so once again, let real men speak and take notes.

why would a person with options want to or need to move? your logic is flawed.

 

[Trainwreck]

I won't say Nashville is terrible for all minorities, at least not Asian and Indian guys. The white girls there are way more open to going for ethnic guys than white girls in Atlanta who are bougee trash.

As for Atlanta, it is going to go on my list of the worst cities because in order to do well there, you have to be born into the right social circles and have been in the right fraternities in college, Buckhead is practically SEC university 2.0

Atlanta is ******* terrible. The girls there act like your typical stuck up princess because they make 50k a year and live in buckhead. Every time I go down there, I’m always asked what I do upon meeting. Plus, I see a lot of younger women with 40 year old pilots there lol

 

[synergy1]

Boston was the worst. Like I said, you can do ok anywhere if you've got decent game, and I managed ok even there, but Boston is certainly one of those places where a lot of the native women date with extreme prejudice. Never seen anything like it. Even white guys with decent game can struggle if you're not either a die-hard, life long Sox fan with a Tom Brady man-crush or if you're not somewhere along the path to becoming a doctor, lawyer, etc.

Boston is significantly easier to date women than smaller towns in the area - its as you said. When you get outside of boston, everyone is a recycled version of everyone else the further north you go. Dogs, pats Jersies, and pictures of snow. Thats about it. Unless you are in a group, good luck. Boston itself seems to have enough variety for dating, but does not compare to placed like NYC.

Being "different" in New England is a death knell for dating. Women all ask if you have a dog, and could care less if you have more lofty ambitions. And again, as you go north, its basically a baby factory. Women want to breed and thats about it. Good luck if you are my age (mid/late 30s) living in one of the smaller towns. All that is available are overweight women, or women with multiple kids. Celibacy is a better option than sex in many instances, sadly.

Edit:

This disparity between womens personality was is always on display wherever I travel. A few years ago went on a trip to Miami and ended up hooking up with one of the coolest chicks (10 years my junior) one night. She was from Texas. her friend who was in her 30 looked a decade younger as well and was smoking hot. Next I ended up meeting another women in Miami and staying at her place for pretty much my entire vacation.

My trip to europe was similar. Ended up meeting a german girl whose family lived in one of the wealthier towns outside the city. Slept at her place and wasted several hundred on lodging I didn't need. Very smart, down to earth and interesting.

It was always disappointing to come back stateside and back to new england. The women were significantly uglier, less interesting, and more flaky. They expect some badboy who is 6' fall to drive a mazerati, but all they have to offer is a spotify playlist and selfies with their dog at their parents house.

One might be quick to call me bitter ( and perhaps this is justified), but I have had success in the past so its not unfamiliar to me. Its one thing if a guy completely trashes their dating options and offers nothing, but entirely another when you know your worth by venturing outside of ones normal routine.