Being the man - bar experience

[BigSmooth]

In a perfect world, every girl you find attractive at the bar is going to show "high IL" to you right off the bat.


Too bad this is not a perfect world, and a lot of girls you can easily sleep with MIGHT NOT show a high IL at first. If you go about dismissing every girl that doesn't show you high IL immediately, you're missing the point.

 

[BeDJ]

In a perfect world, every girl you find attractive at the bar is going to show "high IL" to you right off the bat.


Too bad this is not a perfect world, and a lot of girls you can easily sleep with MIGHT NOT show a high IL at first. If you go about dismissing every girl that doesn't show you high IL immediately, you're missing the point.

I prefer my time spent with higher interest women

I can see both sides of this argument as MisterD mentioned. Both side have a valid point, I honestly think that there is no right or wrong answer. Should you pursue with a low interest girl or one that makes you jump through hoops? I'm sure many like the challenge, looking at you bradd. Others can say they like to weed out for the higher interest ones.
The former mentality is game improvement while the other is a I don't care approach.

F*ck, I am more confused than EVER!

 

[Iceberg]

I prefer my time spent with higher interest women

I agree with you. I'd rather go find myself a woman who is interested right from the start rather than go win a girl over.

But on the other hand, when you're out in bars or clubs, and you're dealing with women in groups of 2, 3, 4+, you gotta understand that it's a bit different.

A nice, normal girl will meet a guy she likes, and just exchange numbers. But a large percentage will have a pride issue going on. The same as males, really. And they're not just gonna hand over their number, in front of their friends, without challenging you a bit.

Because if you take their number, and never call, then they look like clowns. Just like if we walk over to get their numbers, and they try to play us, WE look like clowns.

It's all a part of the game. So even if a girl resists you for a few minutes, but eventually gives her number, you should keep it. Because when she's in front of her friends, and her pride is at stake, what is she gonna do? She has an ego the same as we do. So she's gonna play around with you for a few minutes. Nothing personal. It's just the game.

 

[zekko]

I can understand both arguments but I think I'm with the OP on this one. But I have my own rules and my own beliefs. If you don't give me your number when I ask, then we're done here.

I'm kind of in between the two positions here. I agree with MisterD that if the girl wouldn't give me her number when I asked for it, I probably would have been put off by it and stuck her in the friendzone. I don't think I would have acted like a drama queen over it, but I wouldn't be playing the ****y douchebag game in the first place. That's all just acting, and I'm not into playing games - neither from her end or from mine.

I know some guys are saying "keep her around to fvck, dude". But if you have options, there's not that much incentive to deal with a low interest girl.

I do think that giving back the number was kind of crass, or overgaming as some said. If you don't want her, don't call her. That's the ultimate disinterest.