Being content is for beta males

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Grewd said:
I'd take satisfaction any day, call me a beta for it, I don't care as long as I'm happy. I know for sure though that constant dissatisfaction over never having or being good enough is utterly pointless and somewhat retarded.

Look at what you're saying. Donald Trump is never satisfied with his fortune, surely a drive to get more but it will never make him happy because he never gets enough. Never satisfied = always unhappy. I would rather be happy than rich.

On that note, would you rather prefer a trophy wife over a woman that truly makes you happy? Do you even know what would make you happy? If the things you do makes you feel like sh!t, then what's the point?

Don't get me wrong, if you want to be miserable I won't and can't stop you from doing so. I think it's really fvcked up to want that though. Can't really say it would make you satisfied to be dissatisfied either, they're opposites you see and that makes it an irrational statement.

I would quit my job, sell my house and marry a stray dog if I knew it would make me happy.
You missed the entire point of the post.

In this world change is a constant. Therefore, getting "comfortable" means you will be unprepared for change. It means you only have the tools to meet the challenges of TODAY as they are today.

The man who never gets comfortable and never CLINGS to outside things or outside situations (jobs, women, consumer goods, etc.) for happiness is the strong man. The alpha man. He is not living in constant misery. He is just always looking for improvement and new opportunities to IMPROVE his situation. He is also not clinging to anything because he is self-contained. Only the faggot beta clings to things.. because the faggot beta always feels incomplete.

If you are still looking outside yourself for happiness (consumer goods, dogs, women, sex, etc.) then you missed the point completely.

Wake up men.
 

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And just how many people do you know that this scenario you've presented has happened to? How many so suavers? Any?

Posters claim they should offer as little as possible if anything. Yet they should get to marry a woman who gets chosen as the next Hollywood super starlet, wind up being dumb enough after knowing everything (since they claim to know it all) to lose it all and their wife leaves them for Hollywood fame and fortune.

Why the apocalypse mentality and outlook? Is that how you choose to live your life? Get a grip dude. Act like a freakin man.
Right here dude. Brother got sick, lost his job, took some prescribed medication, wife hid them and threw them away, threatened him with divorce and to take half his stuff and more. He got suicidal and killed himself. As fast as you can have the funeral her lawyers were trying to get his assets in her name so she could marry another guy.

I've had girlfriends say "I love you, I love you." When I hint I don't want to spend that much on them anymore, they leave. Totally up to them and fine, but they don't say "it's ok, my love for you conquers everything."

Not saying marriage and LTR are bad, heck people who are married live longer and have better health, just saying PROTECT yourself at all times, because no one else will.
 

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I don't exactly agree. Any man could be happy doing what he wants as long as he does it for himself. The problem with being discontent all the time is that it eventuality turns into discomfort, which turns into unhappiness. I like to look back at how far I've come and admire myself for it and feel happy too.

Now I'm not gonna lie, I have super high standards for myself and I do have a goal in mind that I'm pursuing that is pretty high on the scale of greatness. In fact that is my goal: to be the best at something and to be truly great at whatever it is too. It doesn't have to be anything particular either. Just SOMETHING great, to be the best at. And once that is accomplished, I have my next steps planned out on how to make more money, to become more affluent. My life would pretty much be set after that. And I would be happy. I would be content.

It isn't beta either if I am content with my life after I complete my goals by the way. Any one of you who disagree could suck on this middle finger. Why? Because what happens after greatness is achieved? What happens when you become the best at something? Say you have the deadlift world record for heavyweight. What comes next? You could do the same old repetitive thing and add more weight. But that's just it: you're doing the same old thing. "When you are stagnant, you are failing" - guru1000 said that I believe.

And the thing is, at that level, you ARE the greatest possible version of yourself that you possibly could be. And at that point, it is COMPLETELY ok to be content. I refuse to have anyone tell me otherwise.
 

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Poon King said:
You missed the entire point of the post.
No I did not, I just partially disagree.

Poon King said:
In this world change is a constant. Therefore, getting "comfortable" means you will be unprepared for change. It means you only have the tools to meet the challenges of TODAY as they are today.
Change is constant, true. Getting comfortable means being unprepared, untrue. Having the tools to meet the challenges of today is exactly what being prepared for unpredictable changes means. I wouldn't know it in the past since I didn't predict it, but that's not an issue because I have the tools to deal with it when the problem appears.

Poon King said:
The man who never gets comfortable and never CLINGS to outside things or outside situations (jobs, women, consumer goods, etc.) for happiness is the strong man. The alpha man. He is not living in constant misery. He is just always looking for improvement and new opportunities to IMPROVE his situation. He is also not clinging to anything because he is self-contained. Only the faggot beta clings to things.. because the faggot beta always feels incomplete.
I clearly stated that if I knew quitting my job, selling my house and marrying a stray dog would make me happy I would do it. It means I would let go of my job, let go of my house and I wouldn't mind breaking up with my girlfriend if I didn't feel happy with it and I had no other way to change it for the better.

I keep (not cling) to what I like and let go of what I don't like. If I was unaffected by anything around me I wouldn't know what I liked or not.

I change my outside situation because it's uncomfortable in order to make it comfortable. It's dumb to make myself feel uncomfortable just to change my situation if I'm comfortable with it in the first place. It seems you're stressing yourself to not feel comfortable so there's constant change and constant stress which makes you uncomfortable, I dunno about you but I call that a downward cycle. How can you feel happy if you're constantly uncomfortable regardless of external circumstances? It sounds like a psychological issue to me. So my question to you is: When is it good enough and what would it take to make you happy?

Poon King said:
If you are still looking outside yourself for happiness (consumer goods, dogs, women, sex, etc.) then you missed the point completely.

Wake up men.
Apparently you need nothing to be happy and thus don't have any motivational force (emotion), but I don't believe that because you're human.

I responded to the point in the OP made that Donald Trump made and continues to make his fortune because he's never satisfied. Not satisfied = not comfortable = not happy. Unless he takes satisfaction in what he does rather than what he gains from it, this would mean that the assertion that Donald Trump is never satisfied is invalid. Rather it means he's satisfied when making more and dissatisfied when not making money or losing money, so the question is if Donald Trump would still be happy if he lost at what he's doing? I highly doubt it, most likely he would be motivated to reverse the trend.

Conclusion: Go make a fortune if that makes you happy or stop trying to get rich if it makes you unhappy. The latter looks like this: http://40.media.tumblr.com/287e29bbe705c4fbd57fa44ab493a1d4/tumblr_nilpgsdIxK1qc6r6co1_1280.png
If getting money is your game then the situation in this picture would be solved by not chasing the money on the stick. Stop for some time to reflect, realize that you're doing it wrong (thus getting no money) and find the way that works (in this specific metaphor understanding that the stick is attached to you, so you just pull in the stick and the money comes to you).

Same goes for women. If you're chasing them, getting nowhere and it's making you feel unhappy then you're doing it wrong. So stop chasing, reflect upon what you can do (stick is attached to you) and find out how she will come to you. The result is that you get the woman without killing your happiness, that's a win-win.
 

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Trump doesn't have to be unhappy to strive for bigger fortunes. Being content can be really dangerous for a man and let his guard down. Women are supposed to be content, not men haha. There's nothing wrong with always improving something about yourself whether it be your career, wealth, physique, women, and so on. I chase women because I solely seek what they are valuable now for which is sex. If I found a loyal women that would benefit my life than I would gladly accept her, but they are a rarity in my part of town.
 

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aw man!
i was gonna post yesterday " i cant wait for poon king to come in this thread and sh it on everyone (popcorn gif) " and my internet went down then i forgot :(
 

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Grewd said:
No I did not, I just partially disagree.

Change is constant, true. Getting comfortable means being unprepared, untrue. Having the tools to meet the challenges of today is exactly what being prepared for unpredictable changes means. I wouldn't know it in the past since I didn't predict it, but that's not an issue because I have the tools to deal with it when the problem appears.
WRONG.

Those who get comfortable are NOT prepared for the future and NOT prepared for change.


Grewd said:
I clearly stated that if I knew quitting my job, selling my house and marrying a stray dog would make me happy I would do it. It means I would let go of my job, let go of my house and I wouldn't mind breaking up with my girlfriend if I didn't feel happy with it and I had no other way to change it for the better.

I keep (not cling) to what I like and let go of what I don't like. If I was unaffected by anything around me I wouldn't know what I liked or not.
That is an overly simplistic approach to life. You are basically saying: I do what feels good.

The reality is there is no such thing as being in a constant state of happiness. Your brain will always correct itself.. as extreme emotions are not the normal or healthy state for your brain... since they cloud your judgement and critical thinking ability.



Grewd said:
I change my outside situation because it's uncomfortable in order to make it comfortable. It's dumb to make myself feel uncomfortable just to change my situation if I'm comfortable with it in the first place. It seems you're stressing yourself to not feel comfortable so there's constant change and constant stress which makes you uncomfortable, I dunno about you but I call that a downward cycle. How can you feel happy if you're constantly uncomfortable regardless of external circumstances? It sounds like a psychological issue to me. So my question to you is: When is it good enough and what would it take to make you happy?
WRONG.

I am happy most days because of where I have come from and the path I am on. I am wise from the past and looking forward to the future. I am also always learning new things, traveling to new places and meeting new people. I am healthy and in shape.

To me this is what life is all about. Constant improvement in one way or another and creating new goals to accomplish so that as an old man I can look back and say I kicked ass. Plus have great stories to tell.

Good enough.


Grewd said:
Apparently you need nothing to be happy and thus don't have any motivational force (emotion), but I don't believe that because you're human.

I responded to the point in the OP made that Donald Trump made and continues to make his fortune because he's never satisfied. Not satisfied = not comfortable = not happy. Unless he takes satisfaction in what he does rather than what he gains from it, this would mean that the assertion that Donald Trump is never satisfied is invalid. Rather it means he's satisfied when making more and dissatisfied when not making money or losing money, so the question is if Donald Trump would still be happy if he lost at what he's doing? I highly doubt it, most likely he would be motivated to reverse the trend.
WRONG.

You can be both happy AND unsatisfied. You can be happy with your job and salary but still want more (because why not?). You can be happy with the plates you're f*cking, but still want to meet more (because why not). You can be happy with a vacation you're on.. but still want to visit somewhere else (because why not?). You can be happy with a meal at a restaurant, but still want to try another dish they have (because why not?).

You just don't get it.

Grewd said:
Conclusion: Go make a fortune if that makes you happy or stop trying to get rich if it makes you unhappy. The latter looks like this: http://40.media.tumblr.com/287e29bbe705c4fbd57fa44ab493a1d4/tumblr_nilpgsdIxK1qc6r6co1_1280.png
If getting money is your game then the situation in this picture would be solved by not chasing the money on the stick. Stop for some time to reflect, realize that you're doing it wrong (thus getting no money) and find the way that works (in this specific metaphor understanding that the stick is attached to you, so you just pull in the stick and the money comes to you).
Nope.

Life is very rich. Its not all about just feeling happy 24/7 and/or assuming some outside thing like money, women, cars, etc will actually make you happy. Chasing happiness is actually the cause of unhappiness. You should be chasing LIFE and trying to experience as much as you can.

Being an NFL player that loses the Superbowl can cause feelings of disappointment. But this does not mean those men are unhappy in their personal lives NORE does it mean winning the Superbowl would lead to 24/7 happiness for life. We need NEW challenges and goals to give us purpose. Constant happiness is both impossible and boring.

Grewd said:
Same goes for women. If you're chasing them, getting nowhere and it's making you feel unhappy then you're doing it wrong. So stop chasing, reflect upon what you can do (stick is attached to you) and find out how she will come to you. The result is that you get the woman without killing your happiness, that's a win-win.
Chasing women is for beta loser chumps.. all of which are unhappy. Real men pursue but NEVER chase. Not just women.. but everything. I don't believe in chasing. I don't chase anything. I pursue it.

Chasing is for the inadequate and insecure.
 

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Embrace anarchy, that's the only solution really. No stability, no home base, no comfort zone. Only you and the will to bend the world to your needs at the expense of everything else. You don't think you subscribe to chaos forging an alpha path? Alpha, narcissist, sociopath what's the difference? It's all about you, and that's the right way to be actually. This it's the root of all this debate, dudes wanting order and dudes wanting freedom to do whatever they want regardless of others wishes. Same thing as chaos? Lets be honest in reality it is. The most vilified intention is anarchy but in reality it is the way. What are you gonna do? This whole thread it's folks subconsciously rejecting anarchy and dudes that are all up in it. Stability is an illusion, get over it and live your life the way you want.
 

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Poon King said:
Life is very rich. Its not all about just feeling happy 24/7 and/or assuming some outside thing like money, women, cars, etc will actually make you happy. Chasing happiness is actually the cause of unhappiness. You should be chasing LIFE and trying to experience as much as you can.

Being an NFL player that loses the Superbowl can cause feelings of disappointment. But this does not mean those men are unhappy in their personal lives NORE does it mean winning the Superbowl would lead to 24/7 happiness for life. We need NEW challenges and goals to give us purpose. Constant happiness is both impossible and boring.
No way dude. There is such thing as experiencing too much life. I don't want to be one of those crackheads out on the streets asking for money and whatnot. I also don't want to be the guy who know what it feels like to be in military prison for 11 years, or the guy who tortures these war prisoners. I'll gladly just try and stick to my boring 24/7 happiness thank you very much. And just for the record, if constant happiness bores you and you WANT challenges as a way to give you a purpose in life, what makes you different from the BPDs who always start and crave drama? Maybe you actually ARE a BPD, considering how you always create arguments with others whenever you post.
 

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ImTheDoubleGreatest! said:
No way dude. There is such thing as experiencing too much life. I don't want to be one of those crackheads out on the streets asking for money and whatnot. I also don't want to be the guy who know what it feels like to be in military prison for 11 years, or the guy who tortures these war prisoners. I'll gladly just try and stick to my boring 24/7 happiness thank you very much. And just for the record, if constant happiness bores you and you WANT challenges as a way to give you a purpose in life, what makes you different from the BPDs who always start and crave drama? Maybe you actually ARE a BPD, considering how you always create arguments with others whenever you post.
You have the mindset of a small child.

I never said experiencing the world and challenging yourself is for everyone. I said its for alphas and strong men. Something you clearly are not. :crackup:

There is no such thing as 24/7 happiness unless you're on drugs. So either you're dumb as rocks for thinking such a thing or you're on drugs now.
 

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Poon King said:
You have the mindset of a small child.

I never said experiencing the world and challenging yourself is for everyone. I said its for alphas and strong men. Something you clearly are not. :crackup:

There is no such thing as 24/7 happiness unless you're on drugs. So either you're dumb as rocks for thinking such a thing or you're on drugs now.
Clearly you are happy when others agree with you, or when as your posting history shows you arguing with others and name calling, or putting down hetero relationships as you use the crackup emoticon for that reason.

You pretend not to care yet give your opinion on emotions.

You claim challenging yourself and experiencing the world is for strong men yet wont challenge yourself with an ltr or marriage as the risks and power women supposedly have arent worth it.

What kind of self proclaimed strong man only takes what he calls challenges with little to no risks in life? You contradict yourself constantly and flip flop add small disclaimers etc.

You preach against what countless humans have been doing since the beginning of the human race and act like you are challenging yourself to avoid any and all risks where countless others have succeeded and then claim its because you are a strong man as if no one has ever lived their life single before.
 

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Poon King, you have not realized that we're not that much in disagreement. By saying I'm wrong you're basically saying you're wrong as well. Would you want me to just submissively agree with you? Because I won't exactly for many of the same reasons you yourself preach. I do not agree to everything you say because I'm as capable as you to think independently, I agree with some and disagree on other points as I've clearly outlined. You don't seem to understand self-reflection, if you did you'd imagine talking to me as if it was yourself. I feel you're disrespecting me and to really show you the mirror I'll say you're wrong.

So fvck you and have a nice weekend.
 

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Proof of him being a BPD (notice how he doesn't answer my questions? Manipulating and insulting to try and turn the tables).
Poon King said:
You have the mindset of a small child.

I never said experiencing the world and challenging yourself is for everyone. I said its for alphas and strong men. Something you clearly are not. :crackup:

There is no such thing as 24/7 happiness unless you're on drugs. So either you're dumb as rocks for thinking such a thing or you're on drugs now.
And you have the mindset of a self-righteous hypocrite. Experiencing the world doesn't make you alpha, it doesn't necessarily make you strong either (if anything, too much of life will WEAKEN you. You obviously wouldn't know that because you haven't experienced the world yet. Your narrowmindedness proves this). Doing whatever you want to do because YOU want to do it does. Trying to make yourself happy without the approval of others is what makes you alpha. If your preference is to be be more introverted then so be it, no need to go out all the time. You can still be alpha and be an introvert. And you can be happy all the time, it is possible. You don't need to be freakishly ecstatic or creepily optimistic all the time (THAT is impossible to do), but you can be still relatively content and happy within yourself all the time.
 
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