Being a Homosexual

[Fatal Jay]

That puts your IQ in the single digits. Congratulations.

If my IQ was in the single digits I doubt I would be able to form a sentence dookie d*ck crusader

America is so twisted, that yes homosexuality received it stamp of approval, but their are tons and I do mean tons of pedophiles out there, in powerful places and all over the world.

The pedophiles will protest and fight for their rights as human, being that they will use the same tactic gays used which is they was born that way.

If you study history, all powerful nations who ran rampant with homosexuality ended in oblivion. From Babylon,Egypt, Rome and now it seems like America is on that same path.

Just look how bad America is..........people see a market crash coming soon, an economic crash coming soon, high national debt, high taxes, wars that we are steady losing and wars that other countries want to begin with us.

Study history, homosexuality is always the last step before a nation is destroyed.

 

[Tictac]

If my IQ was in the single digits I doubt I would be able to form a sentence dookie d*ck crusader

America is so twisted, that yes homosexuality received it stamp of approval, but their are tons and I do mean tons of pedophiles out there, in powerful places and all over the world.

The pedophiles will protest and fight for their rights as human, being that they will use the same tactic gays used which is they was born that way.

If you study history, all powerful nations who ran rampant with homosexuality ended in oblivion. From Babylon,Egypt, Rome and now it seems like America is on that same path.

Just look how bad America is..........people see a market crash coming soon, an economic crash coming soon, high national debt, high taxes, wars that we are steady losing and wars that other countries want to begin with us.

Study history, homosexuality is always the last step before a nation is destroyed.

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This is nothing but an extended example of the fallacy of post hoc ergo proper hoc.

 

[Fatal Jay]

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This is nothing but an extended example of the fallacy of post hoc ergo proper hoc.

Ok cool you can use vocab that you learned yesterday and felt like putting it to the test, but that sentence you posted made no sense

that is not a true definition of post hoc ergo propter hoc.

But anyways there is a reason why you should study history, because it repeats itself.

I can parallel ancient rome with present America

from the best armies, best ecnonomy........all the way to the end with the rampant and approval of homosexuality, high taxes, welfare, Ancient rome even had a health care system similar to the affordable care act we have today

 

[Tictac]

Ok cool you can use vocab that you learned yesterday and felt like putting it to the test, but that sentence you posted made no sense

that is not a true definition of post hoc ergo propter hoc.

But anyways there is a reason why you should study history, because it repeats itself.

I can parallel ancient rome with present America

from the best armies, best ecnonomy........all the way to the end with the rampant and approval of homosexuality, high taxes, welfare, Ancient rome even had a health care system similar to the affordable care act we have today

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Draw all the parallels you like. And while you're at it, completely dodge the issue and try to change the subject about your own writing. (In case you forgot, it's here for anyone to read)

What you wrote is textbook post hoc ergo proper hoc. Good luck proving that how the Romans thought of gays was the downfall of their civilization.

 

[Fatal Jay]

lol people who pretend their smart continue to use the same words over and over and the funny thing is you're not even using it right...........

It has nothing to do with the thought of Romans and homosexuality, it has to do with immorality..........

When moral is at an all time low, everything else will crash as well

It is history and facts, do you believe America is where it was in the past before homosexuality became the new trend?

Or do you see us doing better then we ever have in the past?

 

[Tictac]

Study history, homosexuality is always the last step before a nation is destroyed.

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Yeah, pretend that you didn't type this dross.

If I type the same thing over, it's because you try to slip and slide from what you just typed. I figure you have no memory or that you don't understand what you type.

 

[Boilermaker]

This thread shows how prevalent PC thinking has become. Homosexuality has been considered abnormal throughout most of history. Only in about the last 10 years or less has it been decided that you are a "piece of human garbage" if you think it may be a perversion.

This is buried but spot on. People using their "21st century emotions" to give knee-jerk reaction to OP's question.

PC and pleasantries aside (I am no gay hater, in fact, I probably fall into the most liberal segment in this forum) , scientifically, he poses an interesting question. How is homosexuality different from bestiality? Both are paraphilias, both serve no reproductive purpose, and both are predominantly human, although there is some evidence that homosexuality is seen in the animal kingdom, and its bigger prevalence could be due to different mechanisms at work.

Given that pedophilia is one of the most notorious "diseases" in psychiatry where there is no evidence of a cure, it draws parallels to the analog in Homosexuality: Didn't we try to "cure" homosexuals, not long, 50 years ago?

Science traditionally doesn't involve itself in solving ethical dilemmas: How to treat or deal with necrophiliacs/pedophiliacs if they are born that way? Clearly, they cannot exist in our current society, nor that they have an "innate" right, even if we prove this is only due to genetics.

Take sociopaths-they might argue they had no choice in becoming who they are, we still would think they have absolutely no right in conducting their businesses as they please.

Same goes for pedophilia and other socially unacceptable cornucopia of paraphilias. However, before our "younguns" celebrate pederasty with fireworks, they must read some history and learn that the acceptance of homosexuality in our current thinking is a culmination of its strong prevalence in society and it is an entirely human construct to accept and welcome it as it is, by and large in the last 20-30 years or so, as Zekko points out.

And no -- pointing this fact out doesn't make anyone a "gay hater" or "pedophilia justifier" either.

I don't think "brainstorming" these issues make OP a "horrible" person.

Read some freaking history for a change :crackup:

 

[zekko]

So marriage is dead, the system is dead and it's NOT based on Christian principles anymore. So hell, because it's not based on Christian principles, why not let LGBT members participate in the screwed up system?

Honestly, I have no problem with gays getting married. Let them do what they want. What I have a problem with is the new attitude that we must all support LGBTs and applaud their activities as normal and moral, or else get labeled as haters and bigots. You simply aren't allowed to hold an opposing opinion, or you might find yourself targeted by the government, fined, prosecuted, or worse.

I don't know if homosexuality is a symptom of a dying society or not (although I wouldn't rule it out). But I do think that the declining morality and "anything goes" culture we live in is going to end up causing consequences.

 

[speed dawg]

I had a thought a couple of days ago as a man who's been married to a beautiful woman for the last 7 years:

Being homosexual is no different than being a pedophile.

Both are sexual perversions that are different from the expected sexual preference of an "adult of the opposite sex". I know that the BIG difference is that when it comes to pedophiles, there are VICTIMS and that of course makes it 100 times worse morally speaking.

However, when it comes to straight up sexual discussion, both a pedophile and a homosexual have perverted sexual thoughts that differ from the mean. If a man can't help himself and is naturally attracted to other men, how is that different than a man who can't help himself to be naturally attracted to sick pedophile thoughts. Really think about this - what is the sexual difference? Both are straying from the norm of being attracted to beautiful women, they want none of it, it doesn't interest them.

Might as well pile on here, a man who has bestiality thoughts - how is that different than a man who wants to bang another man?? And I mean, how is it different when it comes to SEXUAL PERVERSIONS? I know that legally there is a difference, and victim-wise there is a difference.

But in the end, the reason so many people dont (or at least used to not) like the idea of homosexual sex is because it's a perverted mindset that differs from the norm. But the media has managed to convince everyone otherwise. SURE, there are no victims LEGALLY, but its still a perversion of normal sexual thought.

Pedophiles, bestiality lovers, necrophiliacs, they all have perversions of what turns them on - how is that different than a man perverting away from wanting women and wanting a man instead?

Everything I have just said can be applied to lesbians as well.

Someone convince me that being a homosexual is no better a perversion than the ones i described above.

They all alike in that they are perversions and not natural. No real question there. But I do believe gay people are gay from birth, so....in a way, isn't being gay natural? Either way, at that point, it's natural for them NOT to procreate and pass on those genes. But now, with science, they CAN pass on their genes. But that circles back around to actual male-female couples that can't have kids as well - they do in vitro or whatever and end up having kids when nature tells them not to. So when does that cycle end? It's not up to me, I know that much.

Bottom line, buttholes were not created to be penetrated, they were created to expel sh*t. Biggest difference in gay sex pedophilia is that one party is not consenting (or not old enough to legally consent) therefore it is rape and that's a criminal charge.

Bestiality? I don't even know where to begin. Can animals consent? This may sound silly, but 20 years from now, it'll be a debate. Remember, 20 years ago, gay marriage was unthinkable.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Well, you are equating LGBT to being a pervert and child rapist, and I don't see how the comparison can be made?

Are you really that obtuse? The main argument in favour of LGBTs is that they cannot choose their sexuality...they are just "born that way". If that applies to gays, then surely it also applies to pedos. No one wakes up one day, after having sex with adults their entire life, and says "gee, I think I'm going to bang a 5-year-old just to try something different!"

 

[Bokanovsky]

Check in at your local penitentiary and find out the difference real quick.

It's a fair question, though. What matters are the consequences to your actions. It doesn't matter what one individual thinks is right or wrong but what will happen to him as a result. Some societies (like Muslim societies) will drop a hammer on you if you're homosexual.

That is a common misconception. Homosexuality is actually quite widespread in islamic countries - even more so than in the West, in fact. Because men and women are socially segregated before marriage, there is a lot of gay activity going on between young people in islamic countries for much the same reason there is a lot of gay activity in prisons. However, the islamic idea of homosexuality is more fluid than ours. As long as you keep it in on the down low and maintain the appearance of normality (i.e. eventually marry and have kids), you are not considered gay and everyone will turn a blind eye. However, if you lead an openly gay lifestyle, you will most certainly get the hammer dropped on you.

 

[zekko]

Are you really that obtuse? The main argument in favour of LGBTs is that they cannot choose their sexuality...they are just "born that way". If that applies to gays, then surely it also applies to pedos.

Probably so. However, I'm not so sure that I believe that all gays are "born that way" anymore. Some here have claimed that the number of homosexuals in the US have risen dramatically in recent years. If that's true, that would indicate that LGBT efforts to recruit and make homosexuality look "cool" have succeeded. Which would indicate that it's not ONLY nature, at least, but part choice.

In the case of sex offenders (and we'll lump pedos in here), I know that "curing" those types of people is virtually impossible, because the sexual impulses are so deeply ingrained. I would imagine it is the same way with gay people.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Probably so. However, I'm not so sure that I believe that all gays are "born that way" anymore. Some here have claimed that the number of homosexuals in the US have risen dramatically in recent years. If that's true, that would indicate that LGBT efforts to recruit and make homosexuality look "cool" have succeeded. Which would indicate that it's not ONLY nature, at least, but part choice.

In the case of sex offenders (and we'll lump pedos in here), I know that "curing" those types of people is virtually impossible, because the sexual impulses are so deeply ingrained. I would imagine it is the same way with gay people.

I think it's part nature and part social conditioning in the case of most gays. Simply speaking, there are many people out there who are capable of being both straight and gay (a good example of this is inmates becoming "temporarily gay" while in prison). In the absence of social stigma - and in light of active social encouragement/brainwashing - those people would be more likely to choose the "gay path", where in a different social environment, they would have chosen the "straight path". A small minority of gays are "unequivocally gay".

In the case of pedos, I think a lot of those people were molested as children themselves, so it's sort of a vicious cycle.