Being a 20 year old virgin, never get hugged,kissed, touch and afraid of my sexuality

[SimplyTheBest]

Grrr.........

Basically, when I think of it I become depressed and angry at life.

Think of it for a sec. Each time I make an approached towards girls, they jumped to their own perception conclusion that all I want from them is puzzy. Can't they just think of it a little different? Couldn't it be possible to just have a girlfriend but have no sex at all?

Being aware and afraid of this perception recently, I have stopped doing things which I did in the past. In the past, I used to maintain good eye contact with girls because I believed that it conveys confidence. But now I am aware that if you look at a girl's eyes, it transmits sexual message that you want her puzzy. I am so afraid of of my own sexuality that I started avoiding eye contact with girls, looking down at my feet when I am talking to them.

There was a girl who I asked her out for a date after getting her number and all she said was she is not interested in f*cking me. I was shocked and ask her what she meant. She said that all guys who are out for dates only think of sex. So if you're asking me out, definitely you want puzzy as well. I don't believe that a relationship can exists without sex. Good bye.

I was surprised for a moment and this is the first time in my life I have ever heard of a girl being so direct in her speech. My confidence is shattering slowly and I dare to make anymore approaches. I am totally confused now........ and I don't know what am I supposed to do.

 

[( . )( . )]

Couldn't it be possible to just have a girlfriend but have no sex at all?

what for?

forget about the chick shes irrelevant.
what exactly are you looking for? you want a gf but without anything sexual ?
and when you make approaches you think they get angry because they think your after some puzzy, correct?

 

[dionysius_d]

oh boy.

You need to banish your current social set of friends (girls).

Where are you meeting them?? Out the front of the high school playground??

Find some older female friends for now.. who are not afraid that every guy they meet just wants to jump their bones.. althought some might even be secretly wishing this

You are believing those immature kids, and now feel bad or guilty about being male and having a p3nis..

You were on the right track before it seems.. go back to Start.

Does a dog curse himself for being a dog?

 

[Santos]

Originally posted by SimplyTheBest
There was a girl who I asked her out for a date after getting her number and all she said was she is not interested in f*cking me. I was shocked and ask her what she meant. She said that all guys who are out for dates only think of sex. So if you're asking me out, definitely you want puzzy as well. I don't believe that a relationship can exists without sex. Good bye.

This chick is lesbian or summin. Forget about her. All girls know we want their pussies. Plain and simple. She is being a stupid *****. Ignore her. Most women don't think like that. It has nothing to do with YOU. She's been used before or something and it's given her the opinion that men never LOVE women but just want sex. She has a low opinion of men. Forget about her.

Be careful with the eye contact, sometimes I make the mistake of looking like I want to SHAG her rather than seduce her . Women love communication of the eyes. Maybe your facial expression is making you look like a horney bastard Try and smile. It takes practice. Don't give up on eye contact, it's important.

As for you being a virgin. So am I. Never kissed a girl? Neither had I until Januray this year. And then I kissed the second girl of my life last night. I knew she wanted to use me, but I figured I needed the practice . This website will ensure that you kiss plenty of girls in your twenties and I'm confident that both me and you WILL get laid if we work hard enough.

I only recently started hugging chicks. Touching? Get with a girl and there will be plenty of it. Start slowly and work your way up. Are you in college? PLENTY of women to PRACTICE on. PRACTICE is the key word. I've learnt long ago that all women are just PRACTICE until you are satisfied as a DJ and want to settle down.

This website helps. But YOU must take action. You will take small steps. Sometimes you'll feel on top of the World, other times you will feel like a worthless piece of ****.

Keep trying. You have but one life. Don't waste it. Live for NOW. You want to be happy don't you? Then DO something. Don't let your life ROT away, don't waste it. I wated 20 years of my life playing computer games and being too afraid to get hurt.

Live your ****ing life! Love your life! Love yourself! Love women because they are women! Be a god damn man! YOu are a free man, live your life the way YOU want to. **** everyone else!

We are here to guide each other. Keep posting.

Good DJing
Santos

 

[BGMan]

SimplyTheBest:

Ha, I've never met a girl who's said that to me. I think you ran into a screw-up. Don't worry about her, 99% of girls who date you more than once will be open to getting with you.

The first time I kissed a girl (on the mouth, not cheek) was last month. And, although she didn't kiss back, she really liked it. The funny thing is, with the time I spent on this website, along with how well she was treating me, I didn't feel the least bit nervous doing it. Another funny thing is, I have had several chances before at making out, but I decided that the girls weren't worth it.

There's always a first time for everyone.

BGMan

 

[es_mer8]

Couldn't it be possible to just have a girlfriend but have no sex at all?

Yeah but why? You may as well have friends that are girls. Unless both of you are waiting until marriage and you know and she knows this. Not because you falsely believe she is waiting but in reality, she bounces on the **** almost every time you're not with her.

Seems to me like your game is messed up. Some girls will say this shizzle but most won't. Most girls since sex ed in elementary know that men will want their pu$$y. This girl may have set up some kind of worthless game and she is just bad at it. Girls play these messed up games to separate the men from the manginas that will write love poetry to them. I would have said:

"No f*cking? I wasn't even thinking about that! Damn, slow down!" with a smile. A good way of C+F with a comment as lame and ridiculous as this. A girl I was with now on the second date or so told me that she doesn't like to have sex because it ruins relationships. I said what I just told you to say. She laughed and that was the end of talking about that. The next time we met, I got some from her.

Girls want sex as much as guys do. They don't like to admit it (what girl wants to readily admit that they are a slut?) but its true. Sometimes you just have to work harder to get it.

If you get an indication from body language and her actions that she's a cold fish, drop her ass and move on. There are way too many girls to just waste your time on someone that won't give you the time or day or is just using you as a "transitional boyfriend" meaning that she will date you but is actively searching for someone else. Its like a loaner car or a rental.

 

[Oxide]

is the problem perhaps that you are afraid of sex?






if no, then fvcking tell her "you are sexy" and go for that damn kiss!

 

[mr.buick]

Move on my friend. Don't even waste your time with her. At least she was honest enough to be up front with you. That equates to no wasted time and money. Keep being confident and looking in to their eyes. If they consider that a sexual thing, than so be it. That's the way we're wired, and that's something women are going to have to deal with. If we weren't that way she wouldn't exist. ( excluding immaculate conception! ) Keep you head up my friend. Show CP. but at the same time don't get takin for a ride!!!
John

 

[Slickster]

Her "I'm not interested in f*cking you"

You "Jesus! Who's talking about sex? I just wanted to take you
out for a good time! All you women ever think about is sex. sex. sex. I know I'm hot but JEEZ!"

This would have set things on a different course my friend. It's not hard.

Head up!

Read "The Secret" in the tips forum.

 

[BGMan]

Originally posted by Slickster
Her "I'm not interested in f*cking you"

You "Jesus! Who's talking about sex? I just wanted to take you
out for a good time! All you women ever think about is sex. sex. sex. I know I'm hot but JEEZ!"

LOL!

Great one!

BGMan

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by SimplyTheBest
Grrr.........

Basically, when I think of it I become depressed and angry at life.

Think of it for a sec. Each time I make an approached towards girls, they jumped to their own perception conclusion that all I want from them is puzzy. Can't they just think of it a little different? Couldn't it be possible to just have a girlfriend but have no sex at all?

Being aware and afraid of this perception recently, I have stopped doing things which I did in the past. In the past, I used to maintain good eye contact with girls because I believed that it conveys confidence. But now I am aware that if you look at a girl's eyes, it transmits sexual message that you want her puzzy. I am so afraid of of my own sexuality that I started avoiding eye contact with girls, looking down at my feet when I am talking to them.

There was a girl who I asked her out for a date after getting her number and all she said was she is not interested in f*cking me. I was shocked and ask her what she meant. She said that all guys who are out for dates only think of sex. So if you're asking me out, definitely you want puzzy as well. I don't believe that a relationship can exists without sex. Good bye.

I was surprised for a moment and this is the first time in my life I have ever heard of a girl being so direct in her speech. My confidence is shattering slowly and I dare to make anymore approaches. I am totally confused now........ and I don't know what am I supposed to do.

First off, like many said, when a girl jumps to the conclusion that all you want is snatch, that is the PERFECT C+F opportunity! Second, if you want hugging you gotta initiate the hugging. If you want kissing initiate it. If you want touching, initiate it. It will be flawed at first but practice does make perfect, or as close to it as you can get. A little past 2 years ago I was like you. 16 years old, wanted to initiate hugs goodbye on the last day of soph year (never did it before), was nearly in tears cuz I didn't have the balls to do it. But you gotta keep practicing. I did, and hugging is absolutely nothin to me now (except, of course, a friendly expression of affection and a nice kino move, all in one!!!)

Like many others said, the chick(s) who is(are) telling you all that crap have problems themselves. I look guys, girls, everyone straight in the eye when I talk to them. Nobody, of either gender, has complained. Start looking people in the eyes again.

No girls who I have asked out on dates have ever accused me of wanting sex either. You really got caught up with a bad egg, and unfortunately you are taking what she says to heart. Forget what she says, in the end she'll be letting herself get used again cuz she can't control herself. Do what makes YOU happy, and be a man.

 

[Trickster_guy_2001]

I'm 23, and I'm very similar, though I kissed a chick. Nothing much.

I never get that kino done to me.

I had a phase where I started hugging chicks left and right. (ones that I knew.) every single one of them asked me "what the hell was I doing?" I stopped. that really affected me.

I don't hug, because none of the women I know like me hugging them. I don't KNOW many women. the few I do know, are repulsed by me hugging them.

So I stopped.

I flirted... or tried to... a lot actually. Same deal. The best I could hope for would be indifference. I rarely got that. My flirting abilities are down to nothing, though I still try on occasion, each time met with sneers or at best indifference. Women NEVER flirt with me. Even when I do it first.

You're not the only one. I've tried a lot of things in the dating game, with every result ending in nothing. I haven't had a date from a girl who was ever genuinley interested in me.

There's not much you can do about it.

There's not much I can do about it. I'm going to be viewed the same either way. So I do my own thing, and I try not to give a crap about the girls. My dating life and attractiveness maybe horrible, but I don't think the other part of my social life is.

right now, no woman is keeping me sane. No woman is making me happy. I can't depend or trust any woman fully. But I have to do it myself. The other parts of my life help hold me together, as far as any stress reliever goes.

Maybe you can just keep trying, and hope some of them won't be nasty to you. Do what you want. forget the girls, let em think what they want.

At the end of a day where you worked hard, and knew you did. You actually COOKED a meal instead of nuking it in the Microwave. You paid a bill. You won a game on X Box. You finished a huge book. That is what matters at the end of the day. Not because some hag was nasty to you. She doesn't matter. There will be plenty of other hags. She is no different. You'll be rejected by chicks 3 times as hot as her tomorrow. What does it matter?


YOU go to school. or YOU worked hard today. or YOU avoided an accident with your car. You won Super smash Bros. YOU cleaned your room. whatever you did. YOU did it. You didn't need some nasty rude hag bringing you down. YOU did whatever you did on your own.

I don't owe my talents to any woman. My mom is the one who brought me in to this world, and that's the only woman I owe. I am not owned by any woman, nor do I live for any woman. I live for myself now.

Hope this helps.

 

[MetalFortress]

Trickster, you need to find new women... not to mention if you are getting that reaction to flirting and hugging then you are REALLY doing something wrong... I'm (now) a natural flirt (sunshine guy, if you will ) and the worst reaction I ever get to it is "I'm not a hugging kind of person". And when chicks say this to me they aren't using it as some sort of lame excuse either, they actually meant it. If a chick acted like she was repulsed by me hugging her, I'd freakin ditch her...

 

[vdk]

Persistence is the key in the dating game. One day you will get THAT woman. Might take a while but if you collect enough numbers you are bound to get a good one.

I'm currently in a very dry spell at the moment. I moved cities so i'm the 'new guy'. Getting new friends is tough, trying to get dates is harder, especially not being able to tap into social circles. Though, I havnt given up hope. I do get compliments at my workplace about my clothes, hair etc so I guess I have to work more on my moves.

 

[SimplyTheBest]

Yes I am afraid of my own sexuality

Just like what Pook says in his thread "Embrace your sexuality". I am afraid to express my sexuality and I find it wrong to be a man to have desires to f*ck women.

I've read Pook, David Angelo and etc.......and all they said is "Don't be afraid to be a man. It's ok to be a man because you're born that way and so be that way. There's no need to be ashamed because of your desire to f*ck them."

I know that but.....ARGH It just clashes with my self mental image of who I am. I've come across some girls recently and ask for their #. I just don't get it, every time when you ask for their # or ask them out, definitely they think that you're pursuing them to make them your gfs.

But men are not the same. Men are not allowed to be that egoistic . Otherwise, they will be burn. WHY? A man who believes that every girl who goes out with him is interested in him will end up being used by professional daters,strokers,users, gold diggers, feministas and etc.

Do you people follow what I am saying? Do you see the light? In short, it means that if a girl goes out with a guy, it doesnt mean that she is interested in him. Okay we get it clear so far. But suppose if a guy goes out with a girl, does that mean that he is interested in her? Girls perception is YES. But what makes them think so.Where did they get this kind of idea that if guys go out with them, definitely they are interested in them.? We could probably be using them as well cause we are too free and etc.

That's it. That's my problem. As soon as I asked a girl out she thinks I am definitely interested in her and I will not changed my mind. What if after dating her two times, I've changed my mind not to date her anymore because I don't think she is suitable for me.

 

[WatchMeWalk]

Just out of curiosity,when you were a kid, did your mother dress you up as a girl and imprison you in the basement?
All you ever do in this forum is whine.

 

[Santos]

Re: Yes I am afraid of my own sexuality

Originally posted by SimplyTheBest
What if after dating her two times, I've changed my mind not to date her anymore because I don't think she is suitable for me.

ummm. You stop seeing her? That's not exactly rocket science...I don't see what your problem is.

Just like what Pook says in his thread "Embrace your sexuality". I am afraid to express my sexuality and I find it wrong to be a man to have desires to f*ck women.

You find it WRONG to desire what every MALE species on the ENTIRE PLANET is biologically DESIGNED to desire? When we say "embrace your sexuality" we don't mean run up to the woman and start humping her leg like some horney animal . We mean don't be afraid to kino her, kiss her, and walk away if she's trouble.

if a girl goes out with a guy, it doesn't mean that she is interested in him. Okay we get it clear so far. But suppose if a guy goes out with a girl, does that mean that he is interested in her?

You are confused. There are two reasons a girl would go out on a DATE with a guy:

1) She's interested and wants to see what the guy is like
2) She wants to use the guy in some way (for money, attention) etc.

At this website we try and learn ways to KEEP a girl interested if she is, and learn how to spot attention *****s, sunshine girls and other women who just want to use men.

If a girl refuses to go out with you, she does not like you. If she does go out with you and starts to give signs that she wants to use you then you ditch her.

But suppose if a guy goes out with a girl, does that mean that he is interested in her? Girls perception is YES. But what makes them think so.

Um, have you watched ANY movies at all? Guy likes girl, guy asks girl on date, guy and girl do to vegas to get married. THAT is why girls "think" so. I put "think" in inverted commas because girls actually KNOW this. It's true. Why the hell would I ask a woman out to dinner/for coffee if I had no interest in her whatsoever?

At the same time women are aware that they have to keep a good impression. And she will never truly know HOW MUCH you like her, or how much she means to you. Unless you tell her or become a total AFC around her.

I think you are afraid. You do not want a woman to know you're interested in her if you ask her out on a date. This is not possible. She will know you are somewhat interested. It doesn't mean you love her and can not live without her, she knows this too.

She knows that you will probablly want to have sex with her at some point - if the two of you get serious. What's wrong with that? NOTHING. Women want sex too my friend. They're just more picky about with WHOM they will sleep with. That's why they test us, and play games with us. Too test our interest.

If you do not agree with me at all, you do not belong here. Stop watching so much TV/Oprah/Ricky Lake it's BS. Listen to the people here, they know what they're talking about. I have SEEN this stuff work first-hand.

Santos