Beginner cold approaching

[Attowey15]

High SMV is a multiplier for success, not a requirement for it. Should he be bettering himself as a man? Absolutely. But he doesn't need to have all his sh** in order to start doing this.



Nicely done. Usually when I approach I'll open with something along the lines of "I think you're gorgeous and had to come say hi". This quickly establishes why you're there, and that you're interested in them sexually, so the response you get is usually a good indicator of whether they're interested as well. Usually they'll smile, giggle, say thank you, maybe even ask your name. If they don't I'll ask theirs, then tell them mine, and let the conversation flow from there.

This guy is just smooth . Thanks, I'm learning a lot.

 

[SW15]

I'm a beginner.

Everyone has to start somewhere. Good for you!

I see her standing alone by the roadside, possibly waiting for a taxi and looking very attractive. I'll rate her as an 8. Well, I was feeling quite confident so I walked towards her, made eye contact (she held my eye contact for about a second, and looked away)

Pure street game like this is very difficult. You've started with one of the more difficult non-bar venues. I wouldn't recommend.

You are trying game on hard mode before having the skill set to do game on hard mode.

In 2012, Roosh called street approaching the most difficult approach venue.

How To Pick Up Girls On The Street

I'm not sure where you are geographically located. It doesn't sound like you live in the United States. In the USA, New York City is one of the few cities where street game is possible. In most larger USA cities, street game isn't very viable. Most US cities will have better outdoor game options on paths/in parks. Indoor game in retail venues is an even better option.

Me: (Smiling) Hi, how are you?
Her: (Straight face) I'm fine.
Me: You're looking sweet this morning.
Her: (straight face) Thank you

This isn't that good of an opener. She's clearly waiting for a taxi or rideshare app. You won't have much time.

You need to go very direct in this situation. @We_ArE_VeNOM is very good at direct game on this forum.

You needed to open with "I like how you look. I want to get to know you better. Would you like to get together for drinks soon?"

There's no question about intent there. You have declared your interest and set the frame as a man to woman, sexually oriented interaction. She'll be impressed with your boldness.

If she's interested, it will be mainly on your looks. So make sure that you look your best when doing approaches and you have a lifestyle centered around looking good. Exercise regularly and eat right.

If she's not interested, she will either respond "I have a boyfriend/husband" or she'll be cordial, compliment the fact you were bold, and then say she's not interested due to her boyfriend or husband. The ruder females (most females) will use the first statement.

I feel I was conveying too much interest with my voice. I could have sounded more laidback and confident, and given her those compliments like I didn't really care about them. I gave off needy vibes cos even though I wasn't looking to pick her up, I wanted her to vibe with me and that made me come across as wanting something from her. Probably the reason why she gave me that bitchy attitude. Next time I should go into the set not caring whether she vibes with me or not. Just say your lines, smile, try to create convo... If it don't work, leave.

Your frame stinks. You need to frame every interaction as if you are communicating in a man-to-woman, sexually oriented frame.

In a different setting, where you could have had a longer interaction, you still needed a better, more specific opener. You didn't give her much to work with initially, even if she were interested (she likely wasn't).

She likely gave you a bitchy attitude because she's an unpleasant person in general and already has a boyfriend or husband. In non-bar approaching, many of the women you'll approach will already have a boyfriend (and if you aren't careful on venue selection or looking for wedding rings, they might even have a husband). The problem is that approached women with boyfriends rarely disclose their boyfriends. They act standoffish and the conversation fizzles out from never having found any momentum to build on. The man wonders at the end of the interaction whether she was unattached and seeking new penis or was not in the market for new penis.

When I consider the interaction as a whole, I think you were approaching a woman with a boyfriend who wasn't interested in new penis in general. Women with boyfriends can be interested in men, but only if you are superior and she's not happy in her current relationship.

 

[pipeman84]

The experience in the OP will repeat itself for hundreds of times before he meets a bimbo dumb enough to have sex with him. The sluts and mental cases are on dating apps, OF and nightlife venues ... they don't want walk around in broad daylight just waiting for Joe Schmoe (whose looks are probably subpar anyway) to hit on them.

 

[BPH]

The experience in the OP will repeat itself for hundreds of times before he meets a bimbo dumb enough to have sex with him. The sluts and mental cases are on dating apps, OF and nightlife venues ... they don't want walk around in broad daylight just waiting for Joe Schmoe (whose looks are probably subpar anyway) to hit on them.

I wish I could dislike this or something.

Some of you just have really pessimistic views on women and dating, and I wonder why some of you are even here.

 

[Attowey15]

Everyone has to start somewhere. Good for you!



Pure street game like this is very difficult. You've started with one of the more difficult non-bar venues. I wouldn't recommend.

You are trying game on hard mode before having the skill set to do game on hard mode.

In 2012, Roosh called street approaching the most difficult approach venue.

How To Pick Up Girls On The Street

I'm not sure where you are geographically located. It doesn't sound like you live in the United States. In the USA, New York City is one of the few cities where street game is possible. In most larger USA cities, street game isn't very viable. Most US cities will have better outdoor game options on paths/in parks. Indoor game in retail venues is an even better option.



This isn't that good of an opener. She's clearly waiting for a taxi or rideshare app. You won't have much time.

You need to go very direct in this situation. @We_ArE_VeNOM is very good at direct game on this forum.

You needed to open with "I like how you look. I want to get to know you better. Would you like to get together for drinks soon?"

There's no question about intent there. You have declared your interest and set the frame as a man to woman, sexually oriented interaction. She'll be impressed with your boldness.

If she's interested, it will be mainly on your looks. So make sure that you look your best when doing approaches and you have a lifestyle centered around looking good. Exercise regularly and eat right.

If she's not interested, she will either respond "I have a boyfriend/husband" or she'll be cordial, compliment the fact you were bold, and then say she's not interested due to her boyfriend or husband. The ruder females (most females) will use the first statement.



Your frame stinks. You need to frame every interaction as if you are communicating in a man-to-woman, sexually oriented frame.

In a different setting, where you could have had a longer interaction, you still needed a better, more specific opener. You didn't give her much to work with initially, even if she were interested (she likely wasn't).

She likely gave you a bitchy attitude because she's an unpleasant person in general and already has a boyfriend or husband. In non-bar approaching, many of the women you'll approach will already have a boyfriend (and if you aren't careful on venue selection or looking for wedding rings, they might even have a husband). The problem is that approached women with boyfriends rarely disclose their boyfriends. They act standoffish and the conversation fizzles out from never having found any momentum to build on. The man wonders at the end of the interaction whether she was unattached and seeking new penis or was not in the market for new penis.

When I consider the interaction as a whole, I think you were approaching a woman with a boyfriend who wasn't interested in new penis in general. Women with boyfriends can be interested in men, but only if you are superior and she's not happy in her current relationship.

Thanks for your response. I've noted a number of things. I should have been more direct with my opening. What is an easier game mode you would recommend? I am in an African country.

 

[pipeman84]

Some of you just have really pessimistic views on women and dating, and I wonder why some of you are even here.

That's like being on a business forum and advocating panhandling as a way to make money and wondering what those who disagree with you are doing on the forum.

 

[BPH]

That's like being on a business forum and advocating panhandling as a way to make money and wondering what those who disagree with you are doing on the forum.

No.

I am literally an example of it working...cold approaching allows you to punch so far above your weight that it's not even funny, because most men are pu**ies that need dating apps or excessive alcohol to talk to women.

 

[GoodMan32]

I am not successful with women and have been afraid of approaching women for most of my life. I am now taking action steps to overcome that fear. Some of the random girls I approach give me indicators of interest after talking to them. Don't you think this is good practice for overcoming my approach anxiety and fear of rejection?

I'm a guy who's been in your position (and still am to some degree)

I went through a stretch at 23 when I'd ask total strangers if they'd like to come over for sex (I don't recommend doing that by the way. But my general point still stands. Approaching a woman in any context can help you get used to the idea of approaching a woman)

 

[GoodMan32]

Your confidence will suffer if you follow the above and approach women who do not give you indicators of interest.

Yes, maybe you have an iron clad ego and won't let it phase you, but I am willing to bet you aren't that type. Most men aren't, it takes sociopathy to be this way.

You can do it here and there just for the hell of it, but only with irregularity, just like buying lottery tickets.

Umm, every single time I've expressed interest in a woman I thought showed signs of being into me, I've gotten rejected.

IOIs aren't as reliable as they get made out to be.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Seems like weird questions to ask. If you are going to say something about her look or what she is wearing, say something specific like I really like the way your shoes go with that outfit or something like "I really like how you put it all together with your outfit. You have a great sense of style".


At first, don't really even worry about the results. You are going to be bad at it. That's normal. Nothing worthwhile in life is ever easy starting out.

Your goal should be to make incremental improvements over the course of each week and learning from the feedback you are getting(or not getting) from these women.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Umm, every single time I've expressed interest in a woman I thought showed signs of being into me, I've gotten rejected.

IOIs aren't as reliable as they get made out to be.

IOIs are irrelevant. Men go for what they want and they are OK if they don't get it and just move on.

Acting like a scared little boy is never a way to get women. They deal with enough of these and they have zero respect for them.

 

[pipeman84]

No.

I am literally an example of it working...cold approaching allows you to punch so far above your weight that it's not even funny, because most men are pu**ies that need dating apps or excessive alcohol to talk to women.

If it were that easy then the only clients prostitutes would have would be +50yrs old ugly guys with hairy bellies.
But in reality, when young, famous, good looking guys such as Justin Bieber or Liam Payne have used prostitutes, your claims are outlandish.
Oh, just go up to an HB 8 with a cheesy line and more often than not you'll get a lay. Yeah right.

Usually when I approach I'll open with something along the lines of "I think you're gorgeous and had to come say hi"

 

[BPH]

Seems like weird questions to ask. If you are going to say something about her look or what she is wearing, say something specific like I really like the way your shoes go with that outfit or something like "I really like how you put it all together with your outfit. You have a great sense of style".


At first, don't really even worry about the results. You are going to be bad at it. That's normal. Nothing worthwhile in life is ever easy starting out.

Your goal should be to make incremental improvements over the course of each week and learning from the feedback you are getting(or not getting) from these women.

I largely agree with this except for the first part. Nobody really talks like that "I like how your outfit is put together, you have a great sense of style". It's better to compliment something about THEM rather than what they chose to wear.

If it were that easy then the only clients prostitutes would have would be +50yrs old ugly guys with hairy bellies.
But in reality, when young, famous, good looking guys such as Justin Bieber or Liam Payne have used prostitutes, your claims are outlandish.
Oh, just go up to an HB 8 with a cheesy line and more often than not you'll get a lay. Yeah right.

Just because you can't do it, don't tell me I can't.

@Attowey15 please for the love of god if you have actual questions about this and want to improve direct them at me rather than some of these other guys. I've managed to make this work while living with my parents in suburban Delaware of all places and get laid a ton...

Please take advice on this topic from somebody who actually does it successfully.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I largely agree with this except for the first part. Nobody really talks like that "I like how your outfit is put together, you have a great sense of style". It's better to compliment something about THEM rather than what they chose to wear.



Just because you can't do it, don't tell me I can't.

@Attowey15 please for the love of god if you have actual questions about this and want to improve direct them at me rather than some of these other guys. I've managed to make this work while living with my parents in suburban Delaware of all places and get laid a ton...

Please take advice on this topic from somebody who actually does it successfully.

Yes and that's why it works...usually gets you a big toothy smile. All women love hearing that they have great fashion sense...especially if they look like a fashionista

 

[BPH]

Yes and that's why it works...usually gets you a big toothy smile. All women love hearing that they have great fashion sense...especially if they look like a fashionista

Not that it's bad, just that I've had better success my way.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Not that it's bad, just that I've had better success my way.

That's the great thing...there are lots of different ways to be successful, and a lot of it is based on what works with your personality.

Which is why everyone needs to figure it out on their own to a large degree...things that work for others may not work for you and vice versa.

That's why being afraid to fail makes no sense because in large part it's trial and error and trying to eliminate error means you aren't getting anywhere

 

[Attowey15]

Seems like weird questions to ask. If you are going to say something about her look or what she is wearing, say something specific like I really like the way your shoes go with that outfit or something like "I really like how you put it all together with your outfit. You have a great sense of style".


At first, don't really even worry about the results. You are going to be bad at it. That's normal. Nothing worthwhile in life is ever easy starting out.

Your goal should be to make incremental improvements over the course of each week and learning from the feedback you are getting(or not getting) from these women.

Thanks. Very helpful tips.

 

[Attowey15]

I largely agree with this except for the first part. Nobody really talks like that "I like how your outfit is put together, you have a great sense of style". It's better to compliment something about THEM rather than what they chose to wear.



Just because you can't do it, don't tell me I can't.

@Attowey15 please for the love of god if you have actual questions about this and want to improve direct them at me rather than some of these other guys. I've managed to make this work while living with my parents in suburban Delaware of all places and get laid a ton...

Please take advice on this topic from somebody who actually does it successfully.

Yes like I said before, I agree with you 100% and appreciate your advice.

 

[characternote]

she just wasn't into you. Different verbals wouldn't have changed a thing. I guarantee it.
Don't stress it. On to the next! Good job for approaching
Keep trying to get better looking/more attractive in the mean time and keep putting the numbers up (although i'd advise night game and not day game)

 

[Attowey15]

she just wasn't into you. Different verbals wouldn't have changed a thing. I guarantee it.
Don't stress it. On to the next! Good job for approaching
Keep trying to get better looking/more attractive in the mean time and keep putting the numbers up (although i'd advise night game and not day game)

Well noted and very much appreciated