Beef with bartender

[DIESEL]

Originally posted by ryoshi


I actually have bartenders, bouncers, waitresses, and others giving me free things all the time simply for coming correct and being "cool" with them and tipping occasionally. Perhaps it's just my magic charm.

No, they are idiots. If you don't tip me EVERY TIME, you won't get shyt from me unless you're my friend. If I gave free drinks to people who only tip "occasionally" then 80% of the customers would get free drinks.

What I really love are the *******s who chat you up, only to then try to weasel free drinks out of me.

Fukk that.

 

[ryoshi]

Originally posted by DIESEL
If you don't tip me EVERY TIME, you won't get shyt from me unless you're my friend.

...only to then try to weasel free drinks out of me.

Haha, Like I'm trying to get a drink from you or something.

Also, since you said it, I'm sure that all of these people are idiots.

 

[comote]

What about the situation where you are running a tab? Should you still tip for every drink when you order?

 

[DIESEL]

Originally posted by comote
What about the situation where you are running a tab? Should you still tip for every drink when you order?

No, there you should tip when you settle up.

 

[DIESEL]

Originally posted by ryoshi
Haha, Like I'm trying to get a drink from you or something.

Also, since you said it, I'm sure that all of these people are idiots.

Dude, read that again. They are idiots because unless they are your friends, they are giving you something for nothing.

D

 

[comote]

When running a tab should I still pay a buck per drink though? I tip extremely well when paying cash but when running a tab I tend to just tip like I would in a resteraunt.

 

[DIESEL]

Originally posted by comote
When running a tab should I still pay a buck per drink though? I tip extremely well when paying cash but when running a tab I tend to just tip like I would in a resteraunt.

Like I said, bro, it's up to you. But yeah, the general rule is tip as you would in a restaurant. Or a lot of people will also leave a buck a drink - in my experience it depends on the size of the tab and how well you got along with the bartender.

D

 

[Tantric]

I've been bartending for a few years, and NEVER would i EVER tell a customer that he "had to tip" me. Bartender ettiquite is pretty much standard, and i would have biach-slapped him for asking.

Tip on everything...including water!!!

The bartender is there to serve alcohol, and keep you, the customer happy. Whether it's a bar, restaurant or club, it;s all the same. keep in mind they usually make minimum wage.

 

[Sexy_Malibu]

I tip every time I go to the bar... every time... but I don't tip a lot every time. It depends on if I go to the same bartender again and again (that's what I try to do)... although you guys have to remember that bars are busy and crowded... you can't expect the bartender to remember who you are just because you tipped him or her twice... as far as he or she is concerned you are just another guy buying beer. If you tip nice the first few times they are likely to recognize you and then you can tip less each other time... That's usually how I do it...

I tip at least a dollar every time... My first one or two drinks I tip more than that. I also use a sliding scale based on how difficult my order was... one beer, that is not a lot of work for the bartender... six different brands of beer... a little more work... six different mixed drinks... that's a big tip. If they mix them correctly and aren't all ice and juice then their next time might be big too... If they are especially quick or friendly then they get a big tip. If they give me the drink for free, I might just tip them the cost of the drink.

It's like waiters/waitresses... the standard is 15%... if the service is terrible you might go down to 10%... if the service is great you might go as high as 20-25%... etc... I have a great respect for anyone who waits tables or tends bar.

 

[STR8UP]

Originally posted by ryoshi
Actually, I only tip if the bartender has earned it (i.e. cut through the crowd to get my drink, was extra nice, hooked me up otherwise, etc.).

You're a flaming idiot. You'll be lucky not to get a loogie in your drink every other time you order.

Remember Road Trip?......"Here's your french toast sir!"

 

[Imbrondir]

uh - Shamefully I have to say this is actually a brand new thought for me. I have never even heard other people talk about tipping a bartender. Buy a 5$ drink, then leave another 1$ for the bartender? hmm...

 

[bugsquish]

Well I definetely don't envy that part of your culture guys. Over here it's pretty damn rare for bar staff to get tipped, unless they do something pretty special to earn it. When I used to work in the bar at a holiday camp, you'd only get tips of rich folks if you make them laugh, or hot chicks if you flirt like crazy. The concept of automatically tipping is a strange one.

Some foreign person I was talking to (I think it was Quebec) told me they have a compulsory percentage of the price of the drink as a tip whether you like it or not.

F**k that nobody tips me for doing MY job. Think Reservoir Dogs opening discussion. Why should society deem that any one profession deserves a tip while another doesn't? Why should a barman expect a tip while a shopkeeper doesn't?

 

[ryoshi]

Originally posted by bugsquish
Well I definetely don't envy that part of your culture guys. Over here it's pretty damn rare for bar staff to get tipped, unless they do something pretty special to earn it. When I used to work in the bar at a holiday camp, you'd only get tips of rich folks if you make them laugh, or hot chicks if you flirt like crazy. The concept of automatically tipping is a strange one.

Some foreign person I was talking to (I think it was Quebec) told me they have a compulsory percentage of the price of the drink as a tip whether you like it or not.

F**k that nobody tips me for doing MY job. Think Reservoir Dogs opening discussion. Why should society deem that any one profession deserves a tip while another doesn't? Why should a barman expect a tip while a shopkeeper doesn't?

I especially agree with "F**k that nobody tips me for doing MY job" because it's true. If it's not common for everybody to get a tip, why tip unless it was something extraordinary they've done for you?

In fact, I'm almost tempted to only tip those who rarely get tips such as cashiers, movie theater clerks, janitors, etc. They get paid horrible wages and their jobs are quite sh.tty. Perhaps I can start a trend.

 

[Quick]

bugsquish,

For some professions here, it's factored into their salary. They make minimum wage, far under what their work is worth, because everyone is expected to tip. It is so mandatory for waiters, that if you have a group of 6 or more, they'll calculate a 15% tip and add it to your bill before they give it to you, in order to make sure the waiter doesn't get stiffed. You know it's expected, so you factor that into the budget before you ever get to the restaurant.

I don't think it was always like that, but I think the restaurants saw a way to improve profits somewhere along the line. Make the customer pay the bartender and waiter's salary.

 

[ShortTimer]

Originally posted by dave134
Can you recommend some beers for me? I don't know many beers so I don't know what to ask for.

Guinness!

 

[Ar7]

Lucky us, tipping is not so much of a concern here in Australia

It does get rid of the loose change problem in ur pocket though.

Anyone tipped a bouncer before?

 

[Livingitup22]

I've waited tables and tended bar before, so I know what a crap job it can be some nights. I'm also keenly aware of whether or not my waiter/bartender is doing an excellent job, is really busy,or is giving sub-par service.

Most folks don't haven't had such experience, so it can be a bit confusing for them when they try to determine how much they should tip. A few suggestions:

1.ALWAYS figure in at least a 15% tip on top of your drink/food bill and go from there. I usually start at twenty percent, but, trust me, your server usually knows whether or not you hit that 15% mark. Anything less is a slap in the face to them, so unless they're exceptionally rude or incompetant, at least fifteen cents on the dollar goes to them. If they are friendly, quick, give a good recommendation or if you make a special order, 20%(I'd suggest 25%) is an adequate tip. If you have them running there ass off for the whole night, please be sure to thank them and leave at least 25%.

2.Try tipping big on your first drink. I usually do this for several reasons. First, I don't usually have the variety of currency neccessary to leave a reasonable tip on every drink if I'm having more than a couple beers, so I just put a big tip up front put it rest for a while. Second, it lets the bartender know off the bat that your not going to screw him on his tips, as he might assume if you try waiting toward the end of the night to tip him out.For instance, If I'm buying a $4 drink to start myself off, I'll just give him or her a ten and not worry about it again for my next couple ****tails. Even if I buy three more, I'll still have a $6 tip on an $16 bill, hardly a stingy amount. Just don't try to drink all night on your initial tip. Be sure to tip him/her again.

3. If the bartender does something extra-ordinary for you, like making a killer drink, giving you a freebie, letting you order after last call, giving up the heads-up on a lady, or sticking up for you (Bartenders carry a alot of weight at their establishment) be sure to leave them a BIG tip. This means that they're either very good at what they do or they've done you a favor outside of what their job requires. Show that you appreciate it.

4. If you wan't better service, tip bigger, that's the name of the game. But even if you leave a big tip that person still has other people to serve, so don't go getting flustered if you have to wait a little while, especially if it's obvious they are very busy. However, if your leaving very good or great tips, and the your getting really subpar service, you have a right to be ticked and you should refrain from tipping that person. Sure, they may start short-changing you even more, but your a paying customer, and there are plenty of other places to go where a good customer is appreciated. Your will run into bartenders or waitresses who aren't happy unless they get a ten spot on a twenty dollar bill, but most will be cool will an adequate tip.

 

[ShortyBrown]

Originally posted by ShortTimer
Guinness!

phooey to that! I cannot pour that stuff to save myself!

Ar-you damn tightarse!

 

[Ar7]

Originally posted by ShortyBrown

Ar-you damn tightarse!

*flips a 50 cent piece at shorty* catch..