Becoming Alpha for women is ultimate Beta

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El Payaso said:
At the end of the day, you will all still slave for your boss, pay up to Uncle Sam and be drafted to die for feminists.

Women will always control the world no matter what men do. Women will always play the role that benefits them and men will be tasked to take responsibility.

Nothing will ever change. You spent 9 months trying to get out of a pu$$y and you will spend the rest of your life trying to get into one.
Only true for pathetic betas. Sex is one of the easiest things in the world to get.

Men who overvalue sex are men who slavishly worship women. And the more you overvalue sex, the less women will want to f*ck you. That's the great irony.. BECAUSE they know they can use sex as a carrot to dangle in front of you and make you jump through hoops for them. Women KNOW when you're desperate. The just know.

There are two types of men in this world: Men who can think for themselves, and men who can't. Men who can't are called betas. These idiots are brainwashed at a young age and conditioned to think they are worthless without female validation, which is why they are so obsessed with proving their worth to women.

These are the men you speak of, but these are not ALL men.
 

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Been off the site for a bit but miss this kind of quality discussion. Many men and women do not want freedom because it scares the shît out of them, so they must rely on that special someone to tell them they matter and give them importance. Unfortunately, this need and fear seems to be much more pronounced in men as poon king mentions.

However, there is always the potential for us to grow out of it and face the emptiness and become a light to ourselves. When we can learn to overcome this fear and "failure" we have true confidence, and women can sense this just as easily as they can sense our neediness and desperation. They can sense your detachment, aloofness and amusement. Then the tables have turned.

But talk is cheap, did you actually live it today? Or did you succumb to the easy, familiar road?

To add to espi's encouragement about failure:

"Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - samuel beckett
 

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Woman are the product of being alpha.Not the reason to become.. If you structure your life in a certain way you will get women naturally. They will flock to you. Focus on career, stability, working out and being the overall baddest mo'fo in your city and women will orbit YOU. You will never have to chase,or use any of this PUA bs.

Get the money, get the nice car, get the house, get the attitude and you will never have a problem with women.

Ever hang around celebs or anyone with high social status? They treat the women orbiting as toys. Something to be played with and then passed around for someone else's amusement. No one takes them seriously.
 

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I agree with OP and most of guys here. We should be brothers.
 

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Poon King said:
Only true for pathetic betas. Sex is one of the easiest things in the world to get.

Men who overvalue sex are men who slavishly worship women. And the more you overvalue sex, the less women will want to f*ck you. That's the great irony.. BECAUSE they know they can use sex as a carrot to dangle in front of you and make you jump through hoops for them. Women KNOW when you're desperate. The just know.

There are two types of men in this world: Men who can think for themselves, and men who can't. Men who can't are called betas. These idiots are brainwashed at a young age and conditioned to think they are worthless without female validation, which is why they are so obsessed with proving their worth to women.

always can count on poon king to whine about betas, women use sex as a carrot to dangle in front of poon king when he buys them free booze, so aren't you jumping through their hoops looking for validation? i've never seen someone so obsessed with trying to prove his worth in a forum.
 

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Not all bucks are "beta bucks". Those only apply to dollars inherited, or put on credit cards. Every dollar you earn is an Alpha Buck.
 

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asa_don said:
always can count on poon king to whine about betas, women use sex as a carrot to dangle in front of poon king when he buys them free booze, so aren't you jumping through their hoops looking for validation? i've never seen someone so obsessed with trying to prove his worth in a forum.

If you have a counter argument to something I said, now would be the time to present it.
 

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This is the key. And freedom is disappearing all around us. To be Alpha you must be willing to be the lion that defends the family and cubs. That means being anti-establishment. That means being anti-Government (within your means).

Consider the "American dream": a man gets:

1) A job
2) A wife
3) A house
4) A child

What does this mean? IT MEANS HE IS A SLAVE.

1) Slave to his boss
2) Slave to his spouse
3) Slave to the bank
4) Slave to the state who will force him to raise his child as they see fit

And what happens if he doesn't worship all of these master? HE GOES TO JAIL.

1) Jail for not paying bills (debtors prison)
2) Jail for not paying his ex (alimony)
3) Jail for not paying his mortgage (for 30 years)
4) Jail for being a 'deadbeat dad' (a travesty as he can't control the economy)

This is not freedom. This is pure beta.

To be alpha you must:

1) Defend your rights enshrined in the Constitution (meaning Natural Law, things we hold to be self evident)
2) Defend your right to bear arms (meaning you don't blame the weapons when kids on prescription antidepressants shoot up gun-free zones)
3) Defend your right to avoid unlawful search and seizure (meaning you don't support the drug war and security theater like TSA body scanners - OPT OUT)
4) Defend your right to religion (meaning you would never submit yourself or child to forced vaccination - a violation of the 1st, 4th, 7th and 8th Amendments)
5) Defend your right to property (meaning you don't support illegal immigration and entitlements for foreign single moms bringing sick kids here)
6) Defend your right to keep what you earn (meaning you don't support Obamacare, the Income Tax, IRS and welfare state)
7) Defend your right to free speech (meaning you don't support asinine crap like banning the Confederate flag, a sign of Southern Freedom, not racism)
8) Defend your right to be a man (meaning you don't care who is offended by the words 'Husband' and 'Wife')
9) Defend OTHERS rights (meaning you don't support torture, undeclared wars and invasions of other lands who are not threatening us directly)
10) BE WILLING TO DIE FOR THESE CAUSES (meaning you are truly one who 'sacrifices their life to defend other's freedom' like the crap we hear on Memorial Day)

If you love the Government and all of the above forms of tyranny, you are the purest beta male possible.

Beta means submitting to the will of others. TV, junk food and prescription drugs are turning people into betas who the Founding Fathers would be ashamed of.

Still cryin bout the confederate flag bein takin down is beta. get ur bullsh@t political opinions outta the discussion forum.
 

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It's simple for me. Guys who don't get much girls are obsessed with girls. Like when you're a kid and see the commercial of that toy you must have. You become obsessed. But when you finally do get it it's like wow okay it was nice for like 2 days. Same goes for women you get to a point where it's like you have 15 girls hitting up your phone and you have no motivation to reply or do anything with them because most women are too bland not enough substance, they get away with it because desperate guys don't care, they just want easy *****. Too many focused on quantity rather than quality.
Sorry for the ramble and quick changes of topic it's just all related.
 

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backbeat said:
Still cryin bout the confederate flag bein takin down is beta. get ur bullsh@t political opinions outta the discussion forum.
And why don't you go back to school, you illiterate retard?
 

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I can't recommend marriage to anyone in this day and age. But in some respects I could see that if you were incredibly wealthy, you might be able to get away with it.

Look at Paul McCartney for example, here's a guy who had one of the largest divorce settlements ever. But the truth is he was worth $500 million, and she got $50 million. Did she deserve any of it? Hell no. But he still has $450 million left, is he really going to miss that money? Point is he could afford the divorce because he was rich, and even after the settlement he's still in a great position. For the average guy on the street though, a divorce might mean getting stuck in a one room apartment eating rice and beans, especially if there are children involved.

I also agree with the OP that completely changing yourself for women is very approval-seeking and supplicating. And that sex is overrated anyway. Honestly, if I could just get a good handful of tit every other day or so, I'd probably be satisfied, lol.
So just because he can afforded the court should/could take it away...........hmmmmmm.

Most of the times I am on your side , no this time. It was his money ,his.Nobody in this world has the right to take away what it is yours.Not even a single penny.Nor if you are rich or the average Joe.
 
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I agree YawataNoKami. Paul McCartney married this charity case cripple with one leg and she took him for an arm and a leg. She told him she was embarrassed to be seen with him because he was too old. Once upon a time, Sir Paul would have been King and sent her to the tower where she belongs. Ask Paul what he thinks about her taking $50 Million and whether it was worth it. And yet people point to him and say men like him don't have to pay for sex!
 

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cola said:
Woman are the product of being alpha.Not the reason to become.. If you structure your life in a certain way you will get women naturally. They will flock to you. Focus on career, stability, working out and being the overall baddest mo'fo in your city and women will orbit YOU. You will never have to chase,or use any of this PUA bs.

Get the money, get the nice car, get the house, get the attitude and you will never have a problem with women.
Bro this is very misleading. Guys who read this think "Oh if I get these items girls will come." They work their ass off many years to get all this stuff, thinking girls will magically see the light once they have "the money" or "the car" or "the body". Yet when they have it, the girls don't come, and then they get depressed and give up and do something drastic.

Said it before, the money/car/house/working out/career/stability/dress/ has NOTHING TO DO with getting women. It is only good for a woman who is DONE screwing as many guys as possible for free and now want to be associated with power/status/money/fame.

The same girls who want to be associated with you because you worked so hard for "money/status/fame/house/car/bank account/ripped body" gave up their young hard bodies to good looking guys when they were in high school and college FOR FREE. These guys had no car/money/house/stability/job or anything of the sort, yet the hot girls in high school and college still had sex with them.

The material items you can get because you want to make a statement for yourself while you on this earth. But you do it all for yourself, it has NOTHING TO DO with having sex with girls.
 

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bigneil said:
I agree YawataNoKami. Paul McCartney married this charity case cripple with one leg and she took him for an arm and a leg. She told him she was embarrassed to be seen with him because he was too old. Once upon a time, Sir Paul would have been King and sent her to the tower where she belongs. Ask Paul what he thinks about her taking $50 Million and whether it was worth it. And yet people point to him and say men like him don't have to pay for sex!
Sir Paul laughs because he got off easy. Sir Paul already made that back plus a whole lot more a long time ago with his Beatles, solo, Wings royalties, his new albums and world concert tours made millions.





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Bro this is very misleading. Guys who read this think "Oh if I get these items girls will come." They work their ass off many years to get all this stuff, thinking girls will magically see the light once they have "the money" or "the car" or "the body". Yet when they have it, the girls don't come, and then they get depressed and give up and do something drastic.

Said it before, the money/car/house/working out/career/stability/dress/ has NOTHING TO DO with getting women. It is only good for a woman who is DONE screwing as many guys as possible for free and now want to be associated with power/status/money/fame.

The same girls who want to be associated with you because you worked so hard for "money/status/fame/house/car/bank account/ripped body" gave up their young hard bodies to good looking guys when they were in high school and college FOR FREE. These guys had no car/money/house/stability/job or anything of the sort, yet the hot girls in high school and college still had sex with them.

The material items you can get because you want to make a statement for yourself while you on this earth. But you do it all for yourself, it has NOTHING TO DO with having sex with girls.

Tell that to all the ugly celebrities/musicians/athletes who got money/status/fame/house/car/bank account. They had to beat women off with a stick. Ugly men like Gene Simmons and Bill Wyman and many others had no problem getting women with money and fame. They did it for themselves but mostly did it for sex, drugs, and money. Without their fame they would not have anything.

For any man working out to get a better body he will gain more interest from women. Give him some money, some status, some power and he will get women. Not sure why you are so negative not thinking it will make a big difference to your life.
 

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Peña said:
Sir Paul laughs because he got off easy.
Paul McCartney married a crippled DB charity case named Heather Mills in June 2002. They separated by June 2006. She got $48 Million. That's ONE MILLION DOLLARS PER MONTH he paid her. $33,333 per DAY. $2083 per WAKING HOUR. $1388 per HOUR. Four FOUR YEARS. Plus he lost 2 years of his life in divorce court and God knows how much in legal fees. And get this: SHE WASN'T SATISFIED: "Mills said she was unhappy with that amount because it isn't enough for school tuition, private security, or first-class airfare."

And Pena is talking about what Paul earned with the Beatles 40 years earlier, and Wings 30 years earlier as just compensation? And Pena thinks that was a good deal for Paul! And she reminds us how unattractive certain other men are (heterosexual men didn't notice that Pena). Like I said a dozen times (and why she makes herself unrateable). Pena is a woman.

Get a prenup.
 

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bigneil said:
Paul McCartney married a crippled DB charity case named Heather Mills in June 2002. They separated by June 2006. She got $48 Million. That's ONE MILLION DOLLARS PER MONTH he paid her. $33,333 per DAY. $2083 per WAKING HOUR. $1388 per HOUR. Four FOUR YEARS. Plus he lost 2 years of his life in divorce court and God knows how much in legal fees. And Pena is talking about what Paul earned with the Beatles 40 years earlier, and Wings 30 years earlier as just compensation? And Pena thinks that was a good deal for Paul! And she reminds us how unattractive certain other men are (heterosexual men didn't notice that Pena). Like I said a dozen times (and why she makes herself unrateable). Pena is a woman.

Get a prenup.

:crackup:

More lame insults from bigbetabucksneil. Paul barely lost anything in his divorce and made it all back plus more. That is what Alpha men do who are not scared of marriage. Sir Paul got married again right after he got divorced so it did not phase him. Funny how bigbetabucksneil calls everyone he disagrees with a "woman" in the forum. If you support marriage not following the MGTOW nonsense they will shame you calling you names. Very beta thing to do.
 

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Need more proof she's a woman (or at best a girly little man)? See her smiley faces.

So the $183 I spend every 2 weeks (54 cents an hour) is "beta bucks" but the $50 Million Paul spent ($1388 per hour) is "alpha"? And Pena spends $20 taking lesbians out for coffee? That makes a lot of sense Pena.

Beta bucks are those you inherit, are given by the Government in the form of Welfare (see Pena and family) or put on credit cards, not the ones you earn by working hard and having skills. Have you any skills, Pena? Oh that. Funny how Pena won't go there. But don't worry Pena, it's been called politically incorrect to say things like "if you work hard you will get ahead in life" because that offend welfare moms like you.
 

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I meant the quotes from scarface, not the character himself.

Why not focus on fictitious characters?

Everybody on his thread has probably wished they were they favorite superhero as a kid.

And I bet you learnt more from those characters then the real people around you.
 

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Need more proof she's a woman (or at best a girly little man)? See her smiley faces.

So the $183 I spend every 2 weeks (54 cents an hour) is "beta bucks" but the $50 Million Paul spent ($1388 per hour) is "alpha"? And Pena spends $20 taking lesbians out for coffee? That makes a lot of sense Pena.

Beta bucks are those you inherit, are given by the Government in the form of Welfare (see Pena and family) or put on credit cards, not the ones you earn by working hard and having skills. Have you any skills, Pena? Oh that. Funny how Pena won't go there. But don't worry Pena, it's been called politically incorrect to say things like "if you work hard you will get ahead in life" because that offend welfare moms like you.
You have said the same thing against 2 other posters this week. Calling them "women" and being on welfare with no jobs or skills. It is lame and stupid and you sound like a fool. According to you every man that makes a buck is "alpha". That would mean every man with a crap job is "alpha" to you.

But you are the one who drops $500 on strippers trying to get their phone numbers or to get dates or sex. That is beta bucks even though you earned your dollars. Paul made his $50 million back plus more on his Beatles, Wings, solo royalties. He also made even more on his new album and world concert tours. Even Paul said it wasn't much to give away for what he is worth. He got married again and doesn't care not crying about it being a beta whiner like you.

The only way you can get women is to pay them for phone numbers, dates, sex, girlfriends. Do not ever lose your job or you will never have anymore women without your beta bucks. Knock off the insults you sound like a fool breaking forum rules.
 

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And meanwhile Pena insists that phone numbers cost me $500 when I've been dating a 22 year old for 13 months and got 3 waitresses phone numbers and 4 strippers numbers and had 7 dates since I moved to Atlanta. $50 Million is Alpha bucks and $500 is Beta? You do know that $50 Million is $500 times 10,000 right Pena? That's 3 girls a week for my 45 year life.

Strippers will have sex at the club for $300 but I only paid one in the past 3+ years. VIP is the last place you want to go. But if you think girls who are HB9 and half your age want to meet for coffee you're crazy. You are the biggest hypocrite on the site Pena

Well, I have a date tonight with a 20 year old tonight who is meeting to play darts. Gotta run.

Generosity is Alpha. Being cheap is Beta.
 
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