Becoming Alpha for women is ultimate Beta

[JohnyTheArrow]

That's my conlusion.

Despite advice given by PUA 'gurus' to be 'more alpha' it is actually very bad advice.Because it changes nothing, you are still little boy asking for the candy.And you will fail most of the time or as soon you enter LTR because you didnt rethink who the fvck you are and who you want to be.

To be true 'alpha' you must create desire to win and be the best.Look, at the famous men who could be considered 'alphas', pvssy is never strong motivation enough to win.It must steam from emotions, from your core.

If you can't find this desire to be bad-ass-motherfvcker well , you can only fake strong man (aka alpha) If you look at powerful characters you will find out their motivation WAS NEVER PVSSY, desire to win came from humilation,trauma,ambition,greed,hate,love, pain ...

Sex ? Why you desire it so much ? It's actually boring and with strings attached.What you should desire is conquest of female heart.

Make her little girl asking for the candy.That's something worth fighting for.

 

[DiegoSantori]

The best part is that i don't care what people think of me, or critic me now i laugh at it, and that is a big step in my life right there.

Yes, it is. You can be proud of yourself.

 

[Poon King]

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to JohnyTheArrow again."

I agree. And this is why I constantly tell men they need to have motivations in life outside of women. Any man who lives for women is a co-dependent baby or a white knight.

Women exist for sexual pleasure and reproduction. Women are not what life is all about. The alpha lives for himself and lives to accomplish his goals in life. Women are not a goal. Women are a result.

The alpha man ultimately wants freedom. Freedom from the rules of others and freedom from the limitations of those rules. Freedom comes from power, which comes from knowledge, education, superior social skills, and LIVING IN REALITY.

The man who lives in reality always has an advantage in all situations simply because he can see that situation for what it is and make the best decisions that will benefit him the most. He is not hung up on emotional Disney fantasies.

Alpha is a state of mind (I've said this before). Its not money, status, muscles or being good looking. Its being able to get what you want without having to kiss anyone's ass.

Even though money gets you a lot of freedom.. a lot of rich men don't really want that freedom. They want a Disney fairy tale life. Which is why they marry gold diggers and end up losing half their sh!t later OR end up in drama with dumb wh0res. :crackup:

I'm talking to you Mel Gibson, Tiger Woods, Harrison Ford, Paul McCartney, Michael Douglas, you f*cking morons.

 

[bigneil]

The alpha man ultimately wants freedom.[/B] Freedom from the rules of others and freedom from the limitations of those rules. Freedom comes from power, which comes from knowledge, education, superior social skills, and LIVING IN REALITY.

This is the key. And freedom is disappearing all around us. To be Alpha you must be willing to be the lion that defends the family and cubs. That means being anti-establishment. That means being anti-Government (within your means).

Consider the "American dream": a man gets:

1) A job
2) A wife
3) A house
4) A child

What does this mean? IT MEANS HE IS A SLAVE.

1) Slave to his boss
2) Slave to his spouse
3) Slave to the bank
4) Slave to the state who will force him to raise his child as they see fit

And what happens if he doesn't worship all of these master? HE GOES TO JAIL.

1) Jail for not paying bills (debtors prison)
2) Jail for not paying his ex (alimony)
3) Jail for not paying his mortgage (for 30 years)
4) Jail for being a 'deadbeat dad' (a travesty as he can't control the economy)

This is not freedom. This is pure beta.

To be alpha you must:

1) Defend your rights enshrined in the Constitution (meaning Natural Law, things we hold to be self evident)
2) Defend your right to bear arms (meaning you don't blame the weapons when kids on prescription antidepressants shoot up gun-free zones)
3) Defend your right to avoid unlawful search and seizure (meaning you don't support the drug war and security theater like TSA body scanners - OPT OUT)
4) Defend your right to religion (meaning you would never submit yourself or child to forced vaccination - a violation of the 1st, 4th, 7th and 8th Amendments)
5) Defend your right to property (meaning you don't support illegal immigration and entitlements for foreign single moms bringing sick kids here)
6) Defend your right to keep what you earn (meaning you don't support Obamacare, the Income Tax, IRS and welfare state)
7) Defend your right to free speech (meaning you don't support asinine crap like banning the Confederate flag, a sign of Southern Freedom, not racism)
8) Defend your right to be a man (meaning you don't care who is offended by the words 'Husband' and 'Wife')
9) Defend OTHERS rights (meaning you don't support torture, undeclared wars and invasions of other lands who are not threatening us directly)
10) BE WILLING TO DIE FOR THESE CAUSES (meaning you are truly one who 'sacrifices their life to defend other's freedom' like the crap we hear on Memorial Day)

If you love the Government and all of the above forms of tyranny, you are the purest beta male possible.

Beta means submitting to the will of others. TV, junk food and prescription drugs are turning people into betas who the Founding Fathers would be ashamed of.

 

[Lozboss]

Read- The Rational Male to understand why being Alpha is about YOU.

Not Women.

 

[zekko]

Even though money gets you a lot of freedom.. a lot of rich men don't really want that freedom. They want a Disney fairy tale life. Which is why they marry gold diggers and end up losing half their sh!t later OR end up in drama with dumb wh0res. :crackup:

I'm talking to you Mel Gibson, Tiger Woods, Harrison Ford, Paul McCartney, Michael Douglas, you f*cking morons.

I can't recommend marriage to anyone in this day and age. But in some respects I could see that if you were incredibly wealthy, you might be able to get away with it.

Look at Paul McCartney for example, here's a guy who had one of the largest divorce settlements ever. But the truth is he was worth $500 million, and she got $50 million. Did she deserve any of it? Hell no. But he still has $450 million left, is he really going to miss that money? Point is he could afford the divorce because he was rich, and even after the settlement he's still in a great position. For the average guy on the street though, a divorce might mean getting stuck in a one room apartment eating rice and beans, especially if there are children involved.

I also agree with the OP that completely changing yourself for women is very approval-seeking and supplicating. And that sex is overrated anyway. Honestly, if I could just get a good handful of tit every other day or so, I'd probably be satisfied, lol.

 

[skinnyguy]

I can't recommend marriage to anyone in this day and age. But in some respects I could see that if you were incredibly wealthy, you might be able to get away with it.

Look at Paul McCartney for example, here's a guy who had one of the largest divorce settlements ever. But the truth is he was worth $500 million, and she got $50 million. Did she deserve any of it? Hell no. But he still has $450 million left, is he really going to miss that money? Point is he could afford the divorce because he was rich, and even after the settlement he's still in a great position. For the average guy on the street though, a divorce might mean getting stuck in a one room apartment eating rice and beans, especially if there are children involved.

I also agree with the OP that completely changing yourself for women is very approval-seeking and supplicating. And that sex is overrated anyway. Honestly, if I could just get a good handful of tit every other day or so, I'd probably be satisfied, lol.

Use feminism to your advantage and marry a woman who has more money than you.

You'll have a better lifestyle and there's no downside if you get divorced.

 

[Trump]

I agree with OP, but the one issue is society values you more if you are married or have a girlfriend. They don't care if you are alpha/beta/gamma/kappa or phi, they only care and give you credit if you have a pretty girl on your arm. Politicians, actors, professionals, athletes all have girlfriends and wives, most are afraid of them. But the fact is it's very good for their image, it's good business, means they are no homo, very family orientated, get invited to parties, etc, etc, etc.

Being married or having a girlfriend and beta is way more important to society than being single unmarried and alpha. Yes it's dumb to live by someone else's rules, but is the sex and image and money worth the trade off of supplicating here and there?

 

[Poon King]

I agree with OP, but the one issue is society values you more if you are married or have a girlfriend. They don't care if you are alpha/beta/gamma/kappa or phi, they only care and give you credit if you have a pretty girl on your arm. Politicians, actors, professionals, athletes all have girlfriends and wives, most are afraid of them. But the fact is it's very good for their image, it's good business, means they are no homo, very family orientated, get invited to parties, etc, etc, etc.

Being married or having a girlfriend and beta is way more important to society than being single unmarried and alpha. Yes it's dumb to live by someone else's rules, but is the sex and image and money worth the trade off of supplicating here and there?

Of course society WANTS men to be betas. Betas have always been the cannon fodder group of humans to sacrifice themselves for the good of women and alphas. And what's worse is these morons actually take pride in their own disposability.

Society wants to see a proven slave and a man with a woman on his arm shows he is willing to engage in submission.. and thus is no threat to the status quo.

The status quo always fears those men who don't "fall in line" and follow the established order. Such men might one day be a big threat to their own wealth and power.

Women are no threat to the status quo because women don't bite the hand that feeds them. As long as women can shop, gossip, eat well and live/work in a nice climate controlled building, they don't really give two sh!ts about what is going on in the world. Which is why society wants them firmly in control of modern life with men as their social and economic slaves.

This is easy to accomplish since most men are retarded faggots who worship women and have no purpose in life outside of that.

 

[bigneil]

Use feminism to your advantage and marry a woman who has more money than you.

Sure, they are available in bulk at the Rainbow and Unicorn factory.

On the other hand, when you are her b!tch, she is going to make you suffer for it. It's a subservient way of life. I could never do it.

 

[bigneil]

Women are no threat to the status quo because women don't bite the hand that feeds them. As long as women can shop, gossip, eat well and live/work in a nice climate controlled building, they don't really give two sh!ts about what is going on in the world. Which is why society wants them firmly in control of modern life with men as their social and economic slaves.

Exactly!!

I was with my 22 gf last weekend and mentioned this episode of Danger Man (1961) - click below if you can endure the SHAMELESS mandatory 29 second commercial (someone at Youtube should hang), note the way John Drake tells the gangster's wife to get out of the room. Oh, how times have changed. Nowadays the Feminist coalition would be up in arms over this.

My gf said "How is it ever justified to raise your voice at a woman?" I said "She was the GANGSTER'S WIFE - her husband ran a murder for hire outfit and they had previously SHOT the guy who raised his voice". She said "So what does that mean?" In other words, young women have been BRAINWASHED into thinking that ALL WOMEN should be treated like princesses, and that to not do so is to advocate violence against women (which she insisted allowing men to raise their voices leads to). I reminded her that Danger Man John Drake never used a gun and never even kissed a woman on screen because he was devoted to his wife in real life. It fell on deaf ears. My gf managed to use the word "sexist" no less than 10 times over that weekend (did anyone ever use that word 20 years ago?). Ridiculous.

Danger Man "Name, Date, Place" - the scene Feminists hate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp88u0qfyC4#t=22m00s

Spoiler alert - rewind link after she exits room for whole episode minus commercial - probably the finest episode of all.

 

[skinnyguy]

Sure, they are available in bulk at the Rainbow and Unicorn factory.

On the other hand, when you are her b!tch, she is going to make you suffer for it. It's a subservient way of life. I could never do it.

True but if you're with a girl who drains your bank account you're her ***** too cause she knows she can get you to pay for stuff any time she wants

 

[old_skoolr]

The term alpha should be abolished.

The amount of dudes spewing out how they have to be alpha to bang girls is getting really really sad. The problem with those dudes is that they they have the wrong idea of what being alpha is.

I know good-looking dudes who are absolutely ripped who talk about how you have to be alpha to get girls, fail time and time again with women. Why?? Because they have no personality and little to know game.

The term alpha will vary from person to person, but IMO the best examples of being alpha are fictional. Don Vito Corleone to me is the ultimate alpha when it comes to family. Scarface has the best quotes about being a successful alpha:

"All i have in my life is my word and my balls, and I break them for noone"

"I want the world chico, and everything in it"

As a man you have the responsibility to take what you thing you deserve. This can be in either money, love & happiness. A true alpha and DJ can be hated but is always respected, he takes what he wants and does not apologize.

Being alpha is about what you do in life. If women are your life, then your not an alpha. Women should be part of your life, that is all.

 

[bigneil]

True but if you're with a girl who drains your bank account you're her ***** too cause she knows she can get you to pay for stuff any time she wants

I choose to be the breadwinner. I budget 10% to spend on women, 90% on myself. I only need them for sex. To be with a woman who earns the money means you are dependent on her for everything. I can't imagine how that feels, but it's not unlike moving home and living with your mom.

 

[skinnyguy]

I choose to be the breadwinner. I budget 10% to spend on women, 90% on myself. I only need them for sex. To be with a woman who earns the money means you are dependent on her for everything. I can't imagine how that feels, but it's not unlike moving home and living with your mom.

I'm dating a 34 year old woman who owns her own house and is a manager at her work. She definitely is not taking care of me, cause I have a good job. She is very high interest and I can hold a conversation with her. I've dated hot bimbos but it always fizzled out because we don't match up well and they are just gold diggers.

That being said I have a cousin who is married to a dude who's unemployed and watches baseball all day. I'd rather be him than be the guy who loses his house and kids to the woman because of divorce law.

 

[bigneil]

You aspire to be a bum? I'd sooner die. Glad you have a good job though. Dating a woman with money is great. I dated a girl who took half of a Microsoft employee's millions. Poor guy though. I would hear her on the phone with him and hear the disgust in her voice, and I felt bad for him. I would never marry her.

 

[FCB]

The term alpha should be abolished.

The amount of dudes spewing out how they have to be alpha to bang girls is getting really really sad. The problem with those dudes is that they they have the wrong idea of what being alpha is.

I know good-looking dudes who are absolutely ripped who talk about how you have to be alpha to get girls, fail time and time again with women. Why?? Because they have no personality and little to know game.

The term alpha will vary from person to person, but IMO the best examples of being alpha are fictional. Don Vito Corleone to me is the ultimate alpha when it comes to family. Scarface has the best quotes about being a successful alpha:

"All i have in my life is my word and my balls, and I break them for noone"

"I want the world chico, and everything in it"

As a man you have the responsibility to take what you thing you deserve. This can be in either money, love & happiness. A true alpha and DJ can be hated but is always respected, he takes what he wants and does not apologize.

Being alpha is about what you do in life. If women are your life, then your not an alpha. Women should be part of your life, that is all.

I agree with your overall concept but Scarface is a bad example. Scarface was motivated by women and he was completely terrible with women, he was an alpha outside of women but women were his complete and utter downfall. He pedastalized women, his sister and his wife who was completely cold and terrible to him but he let her walk all over him and insult him because he put her on a pedastal for being attractive. Sure he corrected her on the dance floor once but overall he lost his alpha qualities when it came to women. Scarface couldn't accept the sexuality of his sister so flipped out and killed his best friend in a fit of rage, his wife pushed him over the edge of sanity and he allowed himself to be put in dangerous positions because of her all the while not judging her for her actions. He was not a secure alpha, his downfall was that he was a *****cat or beta when it came to women and had a terrible case of oneitis for a women who was a gold digger and left her husband in a heart beat because it suited her. He is a classic example of women being a man's achilles heal and a lack of true confidence and being at peace with oneself and overcompensating in other areas (violence, thirst for power) because he could not figure out how to deal with women so his whole ethos arose because of his lack of game. First you get the money, then you get the power, then you get the woman. That's why deep down he resented Manolo, Manolo had tons of game with women and didn't need the money and the power, but Tony wanting women desperately and women being the ultimate source of happiness shaped his outlook on how to attain what was needed to get them without actually working on his inner self.

The overall concept of being an alpha as I like to view it means you are an alpha in all areas of life, you are secure in yourself and you are not beholden to the whims of others. That doesn't mean you are a complete **** to other people either, it means that you are secure and gain your confidence and self worth from inside rather then the validation of others. Don Corleone isn't a bad example, he just was who he was and didn't try to prove it to anyone, he walked the walk and was secure in who he was and was able to create good relationships with people because of that, he didn't force it on anyone but moreso was accepted because he was transparent in his actions and motivations.

 

[bigneil]

Let's try not to focus on fictitional characters from movies. Especially glorified gangsters.

 

[FCB]

Let's try not to focus on fictitional characters from movies. Especially glorified gangsters.

Half the characters on here are fictional bru.

 

[El Payaso]

At the end of the day, you will all still slave for your boss, pay up to Uncle Sam and be drafted to die for feminists.

Women will always control the world no matter what men do. Women will always play the role that benefits them and men will be tasked to take responsibility.

Nothing will ever change. You spent 9 months trying to get out of a pu$$y and you will spend the rest of your life trying to get into one.