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I was playing the Mafia 2 demo and I thought this up so I thought I would share it with you guys

a wise guy. ever since I can remember I have been into gangster movies from scareface, and the godfather all the way to American gangster and public enemies being a self made man has always been a goal

No I am not talking about become the drug lord of some town as that always end up with everyone dead or at least thats how it is in the movies ether way I am allergic to bullets… I am not 50 cent

The concept of being the one in charge and being the ‘Don’ has always been on top of my to do list. I enjoy being a leader I enjoy working for myself and I enjoy waking up at 12 pm and not having a thing to do.

you see being a self made man is not about guns sex and drugs… well maybe sex and drugs lol. Its about you taking control of your life and making the choice to leverage your time so you can charge the maximum amount of money.

No matter ho hard you work at your job your money will never match how hard you work.

I say it is time for Americans ( and every one else) to take back what we were promised and thats the ablity to make a living by any means necessary (legal of course)

This company is my first step in becoming a self made man

I hope you guys will follow my lead and take the steps needed and become a self made man
 

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Gotta have money to make money.

Starting any kind of business for the ground costs huge amounts of capital upfront.

College for me!
 

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Umm, I never heard of any self-made man who slept til noon and had nothing to do. Can you imagine it, "The story of Henry Ford, a self-made man who smoked dope and slept til noon and became the richest man in the world." Doesn't work that way.

Any bum can sell drugs or whatever you're talking about.
 

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Julius_Seizeher said:
Umm, I never heard of any self-made man who slept til noon and had nothing to do. Can you imagine it, "The story of Henry Ford, a self-made man who smoked dope and slept til noon and became the richest man in the world." Doesn't work that way.

Any bum can sell drugs or whatever you're talking about.
A-****ing-men.

Guys, read this, and then read it about 30 more times. Let it sink in. When you are a "self made man" or "the boss", there are NO days off.

THERE. ARE. NO. DAYS. OFF.

I've been down this road once. Some people are built for it. Honestly, dont be discouraged if you find you're not built for it, some people just have to be run to the point of nothing being left emotionally, physically, mentally. Some can turn it on and off like a switch. Both types have opportunity and money to be made.

This **** about waking up at noon is ridiculous though.
 

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Sir Psycho Sexy said:
Gotta have money to make money.

Starting any kind of business for the ground costs huge amounts of capital upfront.

College for me!
Actually, there is some large percentage of businesses that were started for less than $5000.

Besides even if you need a large amount of money, where this is a will, there is a way....
 

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nice post.
 

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I read 4 hour work week

Blackgame said:
I take it you guys have never read 4 hour work week...
Don't worry, I'm with you bro. I get a lot of hostile responses for talking to people about things like this too.

I suggest to anyone who is open minded to read 4 hour work week.
 

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I set up my own business and had some success for a while...but now I'm filing for bankruptcy.

Unfortunately making your own fortune doesn't work as easily as these motivational books/gurus would have you believe. They miss out so many of the important factors.

For example, once you have your business online/book or DVD available or your ebay store open, you have to promote it. People won't know you exist until you do and if you're new, you're not even going to appear on search engines. You also have to give people a reason to buy your products over those of your competitors, so you have to be offering something very special or have a way of offering an exceptionally low price.

Prepare to spend a LOT of time and money marketing your business in order to get noticed and be prepared to lose that money if the risk doesn't pay off. You could end up spending 2-4 years promoting your business before you start making a profit, so you need to be committed and you need to work out how you're going to live during this time.

I don't want to discourage anyone, but just know that there is a LOT involved. Make sure you read more in depth business books that deal with the details (marketing, expenditure, taxes) rather than the kind by celebrities or motivational speakers.
 

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Blackgame said:
The concept of being the one in charge and being the ‘Don’ has always been on top of my to do list. I enjoy being a leader I enjoy working for myself and I enjoy waking up at 12 pm and not having a thing to do.
Being the one in charge usually entails having the most responsibility; and if you ever want to succeed you need to work your balls off. You need to forget women, and realize that the pay-off will come much later. You will need to have the strongest will, surround yourself with terrific people and be able to ATTRACT and keep said people.

It's not easy, it's very tough. It's a dog-eat-dog world out there and greedy people will fvck you over at the first sign of you showing weakness. It's not about waking up at 12pm. It's about waking up at 6am and working till 10pm. And the go to sleep planning your next moves. You have to get your ass out there and sell it like you never before have.

On the plus side; it really is amazing to get response when you pull it off right. Like being at a conference party and say to some random dude: "get my a drink", then see the jaws of the three guys next to going; "That was my CEO...".

Again, strong men recognize strong men, but to become one you need to show your worth and be ready to shower the sh*t people will throw your way. You might be wearing rose-tinted glasses, but trust me; you will have more set-backs in the beginning then you have success; it's all about weathering the storm. It's the high-road, but the potential reward is the greatest you can get (just be ready to live off nothing, not being able to afford doing the things you might want to do, and watching your friends earn 10x what you do.

Keep in mind that you don't need to walk it alone, having good and reliable business-partners is the key to your success. Approach it like you do with seduction; make yourself and your business the prize, three strikes and then they are out and most important off all: Stand your ground.

I haven't "made it" yet, but I have had some successes, mostly because I allow people to develop and try to accommodate said development. It's not about me being top-dog, it's about getting the most out of the people I have chosen to place my trust in.

Books can probably help you on your way, but nothing beats falling flat on your ass and learning it the hard way; through experience. Unless you have family that can sponsor you in the start-up phase; it will be a low-margin lifestyle until you actually make it.
 

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On my fourth business now. And for my first one I tried the getting up at 12 thing...and it lead to me not paying attention to the market and not being prepared when it all crashed around me. I tried various partnerships and learned that I am not built for partnerships. I can have joint ventures where it suits both of our interest for a short time, I can have freelancers and contractors, and employees, but not true 50/50 partners. Right now I have a day job while I build up my new business and I have two JV partners and 4 contractors two of which are my former business partners. They are great at their job, but they are poor business people. Keeping them out of the decision making process makes everyone happier.

I'm not making any real money right now. I'm spending a lot on marketing and equipment cost. I hope to start pulling in money in about 2 years. This is year one and I'm breaking even which is amazing for any small business.
 

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Jariel said:
I set up my own business and had some success for a while...but now I'm filing for bankruptcy.

Unfortunately making your own fortune doesn't work as easily as these motivational books/gurus would have you believe. They miss out so many of the important factors.

For example, once you have your business online/book or DVD available or your ebay store open, you have to promote it. People won't know you exist until you do and if you're new, you're not even going to appear on search engines. You also have to give people a reason to buy your products over those of your competitors, so you have to be offering something very special or have a way of offering an exceptionally low price.

Prepare to spend a LOT of time and money marketing your business in order to get noticed and be prepared to lose that money if the risk doesn't pay off. You could end up spending 2-4 years promoting your business before you start making a profit, so you need to be committed and you need to work out how you're going to live during this time.

I don't want to discourage anyone, but just know that there is a LOT involved. Make sure you read more in depth business books that deal with the details (marketing, expenditure, taxes) rather than the kind by celebrities or motivational speakers.

I know that talk I have spent uppers of 3 years learning the ends and outs of things... I took separate classes on taxes, marketing and accounting, stuff is complicated... but if you have the goals like the ones I do then its a task that ill gladly take on

Being the one in charge usually entails having the most responsibility; and if you ever want to succeed you need to work your balls off. You need to forget women, and realize that the pay-off will come much later. You will need to have the strongest will, surround yourself with terrific people and be able to ATTRACT and keep said people.

It's not easy, it's very tough. It's a dog-eat-dog world out there and greedy people will fvck you over at the first sign of you showing weakness. It's not about waking up at 12pm. It's about waking up at 6am and working till 10pm. And the go to sleep planning your next moves. You have to get your ass out there and sell it like you never before have.

On the plus side; it really is amazing to get response when you pull it off right. Like being at a conference party and say to some random dude: "get my a drink", then see the jaws of the three guys next to going; "That was my CEO...".

Again, strong men recognize strong men, but to become one you need to show your worth and be ready to shower the sh*t people will throw your way. You might be wearing rose-tinted glasses, but trust me; you will have more set-backs in the beginning then you have success; it's all about weathering the storm. It's the high-road, but the potential reward is the greatest you can get (just be ready to live off nothing, not being able to afford doing the things you might want to do, and watching your friends earn 10x what you do.

Keep in mind that you don't need to walk it alone, having good and reliable business-partners is the key to your success. Approach it like you do with seduction; make yourself and your business the prize, three strikes and then they are out and most important off all: Stand your ground.

I haven't "made it" yet, but I have had some successes, mostly because I allow people to develop and try to accommodate said development. It's not about me being top-dog, it's about getting the most out of the people I have chosen to place my trust in.

Books can probably help you on your way, but nothing beats falling flat on your ass and learning it the hard way; through experience. Unless you have family that can sponsor you in the start-up phase; it will be a low-margin lifestyle until you actually make it.
I agree for the most part we are, but forget women? no no that approach to life sounds like a lot of jacking off to me if you dont have balance then whats the point of it all...
 

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Blackgame said:
I agree for the most part we are, but forget women? no no that approach to life sounds like a lot of jacking off to me if you dont have balance then whats the point of it all...
I agree, but I'm also starting understanding what Felix Dennis meant when he said : If it flies, floats or fornicates, always rent it - it's cheaper on the long run
 

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Warrior74 said:
On my fourth business now. And for my first one I tried the getting up at 12 thing...and it lead to me not paying attention to the market and not being prepared when it all crashed around me. I tried various partnerships and learned that I am not built for partnerships. I can have joint ventures where it suits both of our interest for a short time, I can have freelancers and contractors, and employees, but not true 50/50 partners. Right now I have a day job while I build up my new business and I have two JV partners and 4 contractors two of which are my former business partners. They are great at their job, but they are poor business people. Keeping them out of the decision making process makes everyone happier.

I'm not making any real money right now. I'm spending a lot on marketing and equipment cost. I hope to start pulling in money in about 2 years. This is year one and I'm breaking even which is amazing for any small business.

Its called business hierarchy. A chain of command. You cannot have more than one person making the decisions for the same tasks.

entrepreneur = dreamer/innovator/money man, the guy with the ideas
manager = the guy who runs the team
technician = the person making the product

if your starting your own business with relatively low cost you are starting out doing all three of these jobs, which means you cannot be waking up at noon. Hell today is sunday and I worked 12 hours. However, your goal must be the entrepreneurial otherwise there is no point to starting your own business. If your content with being a technician, work for someone else and save your self the headache of being the manager and entrepreneur.

as for college, technicians should go to school, I dont think it necessary for entrepreneurs to go. Im in dept now 80k+ for a four year degree, I could have worked out of highschool and saved up 80k and funded my business much better. The degree(receipt) is a good thing to have, although I dont think it was worth the money, people respect that and I would not have met the people I know today.

Its all about who you know. I know people who are simply middle men, they know so many people they just take a cut of all the services they refer. If somebody asks if they can do this, or handle something, they simply say yes and figure out how to get it done.

However the best businesses are the ones that provide a unique patented product or the ones who's service or product is marketed extremely well. You may not fail, but you will not go anywhere simply selling a generic product in a generic way, you are basically a convenience store. You must open multiple convenience stores to be successful through that route.
 

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Chromeo said:
Its called business hierarchy. A chain of command. You cannot have more than one person making the decisions for the same tasks.

entrepreneur = dreamer/innovator/money man, the guy with the ideas
manager = the guy who runs the team
technician = the person making the product

if your starting your own business with relatively low cost you are starting out doing all three of these jobs, which means you cannot be waking up at noon. Hell today is sunday and I worked 12 hours. However, your goal must be the entrepreneurial otherwise there is no point to starting your own business. If your content with being a technician, work for someone else and save your self the headache of being the manager and entrepreneur.

as for college, technicians should go to school, I dont think it necessary for entrepreneurs to go. Im in dept now 80k+ for a four year degree, I could have worked out of highschool and saved up 80k and funded my business much better. The degree(receipt) is a good thing to have, although I dont think it was worth the money, people respect that and I would not have met the people I know today.

Its all about who you know. I know people who are simply middle men, they know so many people they just take a cut of all the services they refer. If somebody asks if they can do this, or handle something, they simply say yes and figure out how to get it done.

However the best businesses are the ones that provide a unique patented product or the ones who's service or product is marketed extremely well. You may not fail, but you will not go anywhere simply selling a generic product in a generic way, you are basically a convenience store. You must open multiple convenience stores to be successful through that route.
of course you start out as all three... but if you are not working with an end in mind ( less or more hours) then whats the point?

I am working on products every night after work, I am marketing out of the ass. sure if I want to wake up at 12 then hey thats my own personal goal as I plan to out source many of my day to day things I want to stay as small and efficient as possible my goals are different then your yours so how I go about doing things will be different

I want to be self efficient, I want to do things by my own book and no one elses and along the way have time to stop and smell the roses...
 

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Blackgame said:
of course you start out as all three... but if you are not working with an end in mind ( less or more hours) then whats the point?
thats what im saying, sorry not sure if your agreeing or disagreeing
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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