Be weary of "Traditional" women and people in general

[Jesse Pinkman]

Conservative, and Traditional should be weary of, especially those involved with the Red Pill. A new class of Gold Diggers, Toxic Women, and Parasites has infiltrated the Red Pill and Conservative movement as well as masked themselves as "traditional" women.

Well, I believe those days are gone. I look at some of these modern Red Pill Podcasts and even how Rollo has been reduced to debating with trash like Koko Beaute, thank you for informing me of that @SW15.

Women have caught on, are going Right Wing and putting on the "Traditional" mask with the worst intentions.

It is a whole new level of power play that has caught on only in recent years as more and more women have shifted voting Republican because they realize how turned off men are by feminists. However, all of this is done with the worst intentions to control men and their options.

Think about it, what are modern talking points and goals of the Red Pill/Conservatives/Right Wing?

"Be a family man"

"Don't sleep around or you will make society collapse"

"Do not learn game as it is for degenerates"

"Sleeping around is for men who have not found God"

If you want to do all that, do it, I won't judge. However, dig deeper into why they are doing that? They want to control you. If they get you thinking like some Christian Cuck, then it takes away your options. A man who does not have game and is too scared to have sex before marriage or many partners ultimately becomes a slave to one woman.

Which WOULD BE OKAY if we were dealing with true traditional women.

However, we are not.

We are dealing with a more evolved type of parasite in the female gender. We are dealing with a parasite that is going to use that moral high ground in order to play men and have the power over them. We are dealing with a parasite that has infiltrated and cucked the Right Wing movement by using its very own love for the Bible against it.

I know these types, they were all too common when I grew up in The Bible Belt which @CornbreadFed can speak to. They used a man's fear against him and guilt trips like nothing. Hold the Bible over his head and use that as your weapon.

You wouldn't do game would you? That is unholy!

You would not dare sleep around before marriage would you? Sex before marriage is a sin!

You would not want to chase women would you? That is causing the collapse of traditional Christian Values!

And I have to say, a ton of "Right Wing" guys who are all too common in the game community are falling hard for it.

 

[Plinco]

That's been going on for a long time. It's a form of beta bait and those who fall for it are the type of men who live by ideals that don't necessarily touch the real world (AKA lack of experience). If you have enough experience you should be able to see right through these manipulations.

 

[Black Widow Void]

This has been going on way before recent politics (incidentally, a subject that is not allowed on this forum - please be mindful) .

Women have also infiltrated churches with the very same motive and known to do the bait and switch thing.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

If you have ever saw the term "TradCon" on a dating website, it is short for Traditionally Conservative, it is a very popular outlook that has been around for a long time. "I want to be a TradCon stay at home wife" I see that a lot on dating websites, maybe it's an authentic sentiment, maybe not, people change and people scam.

One of the most respectable women I ever met in my life, she was my boss at this office where it was almost all women, was me and like 3 dudes, my boss worked her way up from ground level, was a genuinely nice lady and introduced herself as "TradCon" in a building full of woke women, she was brave as ****.

Then she had her kid with her longtime husband and everything changed, I remember in our first get together since her maternity leave she said "I need money" just out of the blue and then stood outside her truck staring at me once the meeting was done, it was obvious she wanted me to full on save her, but then I began to question if she was just proposing sex to me, she was a God damn smoke show, 10/10 but I had so much respect for her I couldn't even sleep with her or look at her in that way, but just knowing even she broke, totally killed my desire to chase TradCon.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I'm already weary, but do you mean 'wary' perhaps?

 

[obelisk]

Rollo and a few others have been taking aim at this phenomenon lately and I think you're spot on Jesse. Don't believe the hype. It's a ruse and the other side of the coin from raging feminism that leads to the same end point. Tradwife/Tradcon is not the friend or ally of RP seeking men trying to improve themselves and their lives.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I feel like the RP's appeal to traditional woman is a red herring and just gives them another avenue to complain about women and not put in the work necessary to become successful with them. I used to date a girl that went to small private southern baptist university, so I can confirm that your traditional woman does exist. However, these girls were mostly home schooled or went to private school and the university kept strict surveillance on the students. Yes, there were some that broke the rules and slooted out, but most of the women were NPCs. For the most part, these women do exist, but you do have to put in the work necessary to be around them and be just like them to even have a chance. Your average guy on the RP is nothing like a Traditional Christan woman and would be completely incompatible with these women.

Back to @Jesse Pinkman points, there are a lot of fake traditional women out here playing Eve. Your average RP is more than likely going to be baited and switched by these women because he is told to look for the "too good to be true" type package by RP content creators. As a result, he finds a traditional woman all in name only like himself and these women eat him alive completely. The RP needs to come to terms that MEN WILL NEVER OUTWOMAN A WOMAN period! Women have been trained to be master manipulators since birth while your RP guy thinks he is hot shvt because he read some game or listened to some Rollo/Fresh & Fit.

 

[SW15]

Your average guy on the RP is nothing like a Traditional Christan woman and would be completely incompatible with these women.

The typical RP guy is most concerned with getting his penis wet. He might be open to a longer term relationship. A traditional Christian woman is going to be dating for marriage and babies. Those are lower priorities for red pill men, even the red pill men that are open to longer term relationships.

Women have been trained to be master manipulators since birth while your RP guy thinks he is hot shvt because he read some game or listened to some Rollo/Fresh & Fit.

Good point.

I look at some of these modern Red Pill Podcasts and even how Rollo has been reduced to debating with trash like Koko Beaute, thank you for informing me of that @SW15.

The Rollo-Koko Beaute debate happened on the SOSCAST podcast in April 2022.

That's a 2 hr, 40 minute conversation that few people are likely to watch in full at this point, but this 17 minute portion of it from Rollo's channel is more digestable.

 

[Bokanovsky]

The "tradwife" thing is definitely a con. When a woman describes herself in such terms, it's a massive red flag. And beta bate, as @Plinco said. The good thing about it is that it makes filtering gold diggers very easy for anyone with half a brain.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

75% of the women on OLD who claim to be "tradcon" have resting b faces. Their motivation in proclaiming that is to be avoidant and weed dudes out more so than to promote conservative values.

 

[Solomon]

Trad women are not making Redpill content let me repeat a woman who is truly traditional is not going to make redpill content. This new age of Redpill (meaning Redpill from 2018 till now) is nothing but incels and simps, this is why women have infiltrated the space and now the biggest content creator is Justpearlythings aka Pearl(27 years old unmarried). Before 2018 women were around but they weren't taken seriously(heck even Lauren Southern wasn't taken seriously a 22 unmarried woman hence the pressure got to her and she got married by 25, last I checked she is divorced now) now women know they can run up a check on desperate thirsty simps meanwhile some these women are getting stuffed like thanksgiving once the cameras are off and not by their "husbands" or "Boyfriends"

 

[BeExcellent]

Advice from the old lady:

Interesting topic. I’ve seen the phenomenon myself. My new mother in law, who was in a sorority in the late 60s is 75 or so now is on her 3rd husband after leaving the other 2 (left my father in law when her boys were 3 and 1.) Remarried dude 2, who had 2 boys, left him & married her current husband of 30+ years.

She is pretty, always has been, tall thin athletic blond school teacher. She is the biggest hypocrite too with her holier than thou attitude. She thinks her shjt doesn’t stink but she essentially neglected her boys when they were very young to take up with other men. She just happened to be attractive enough men wanted to lock her down, and that meant marriage.

Compare that 2 my recently deceased first mother in law, who only ever had sex with my children’s grandfather, lost her virginity on her wedding night, and was widowed with adolescent kids at age 39. She never remarried, concentrated on raising her kids & being a good mother, and she was very close in adulthood to her children as a result. My husband has an arms length relationship with his mother, and his brother is similar.

My first husband’s mother was the definition of the Tradcon woman, and my son is about to marry a young woman who is of that same mold.

My current husband’s mother is this holier than thou hypocrite OP is talking about.

For the record I have been a career woman out of necessity but I’ve officed remote out of my house since 1997 so I was able to be around a great deal. I also afforded my first husband being a stay at home dad for 10 years after he lost his business because having a parent at home raising the kids was important to both he & I. We just ended up doing it backwards.

There are actual traditional women out there. You gotta screen hard. That really shouldn’t shock anyone.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

Simple. Other people don't get to choose what's right for your life. People can crow all they want about what a man (or woman) "should" do but you're the one living your life, not them.

Most threads on SS can be resolved with the old nugget: To thine own self be true.

 

[RangerMIke]

The RP needs to come to terms that MEN WILL NEVER OUTWOMAN A WOMAN period!

Truer words were never spoken. If you get into a competition with a chick in an emotional relationship competition... you are on her pitch, and the referees are on her side. She has the home field advantage.

Churches are filled with men that are only getting used like toilet paper. They get pats on the head for being 'good men' meanwhile they are worker drones getting up at 6:30, they p1ss/sh1t, force feed, hit the traffic to go to some job where they are making someone else rich... and they are expected to be 'grateful'. You do this because you are supposed to believe that some bearded sky entity will send you to eternal torment in hell.

Meanwhile their personal life is basically trying to make some chick happy. Getting nagged to death repainting rooms in the house because his 'bride' is bored, while having to defend every fvcking dollar he spends on himself. And if he starts to wander off the reservation, he is shammed by the 'men's group' at his fvcking church where he donates money so that he can be effectively policed.

When he dies.... well he is mourned like we might regret the death of a reliable plow horse.... and if he didn't have 'good life insurance' or managed to squirrel away enough money (which is almost fvcking impossible if you are living with a chick) the hen cackle will run the dead man down for not taking care of his family in death.

Tradcon and liberal/progressive philosophies are two sides of the same coin. One uses men out of 'obligation': one uses men because apparently we owe societies because our gender is 'privileged'. Bottom line... both use men as a means of emotional manipulation. They only way to win is to just take your ball and leave. Go ahead a play the game... you might find a woman that really loves you, and as long as you are getting what you want... giving up what you are willing to give up... and continue to be the best man you can be.... sh1t will work out. The minute this is no longer true, put you ball and cleats in a bag and walk away.

 

[SW15]

Churches are filled with men that are only getting used like toilet paper. They get pats on the head for being 'good men' meanwhile they are worker drones getting up at 6:30, they p1ss/sh1t, force feed, hit the traffic to go to some job where they are making someone else rich... and they are expected to be 'grateful'. You do this because you are supposed to believe that some bearded sky entity will send you to eternal torment in hell.

A lot of Christian/Catholic church attending men are beta males. Some might be appreciated by a woman but a lot won't be.

This isn't the 1950s/1960s where a 1910s/1920s born GI Generation male could be appreciated by his GI Generation wife as a beta male.

Plenty of church attending Boomer males ended up getting divorced during the 1980s-1990s.

A 30s/40s man today living the lifestyle you described above has a good chance of being a borderline incel if he doesn't have social circle mating options.

 

[corrector]

Intresting points from OP, and actually something that could be valuable for Christians on this board. But if we are honest with ourselves, people on here who are successful with women have high-paying jobs or are successful in the financial side and could easily support themselves and another woman. It's not a big stretch to understand that its a general societal expectation that a guy is supposed to support their woman, and at least provide a place where you and her can live together and not starve. However, a true tradcon woman will stick by her man even if he loses his job and is unable to support himself or her and step-up to the plate if she has to. A gold-digger using that as some sort of cover will end up seperating from him or divorcing him or start talking about divorce or turn on him in such a way that he has to divorce her. A true tradcon woman will value the covenant of marriage, not just see it as something that only works when its convenient for her.