Be thankful that you are a man

[Pandora]

Being a female is not as easy as we think. Yes if you are a hot or mid tier woman you will be fine. What if you are an ugly woman? You are pretty much done. The world stinks for ugly chicks.

1.) If you are an ugly girl then you are done. You will be used as a pump and dump for good looking guys. Your only choice is ugly dudes that are weird.

2.) You have to be selected. You have to wait for the guy you like to find you. You have no autonomy.

3.) If you miss getting a boyfriend in the university years then you are done. The quality of men really drops off after university.

4.) It really hurts a girl when her heart is broken by a "player". Most women never recover.

5.) Men are weirder than we give them credit for. Everything is a bell curve. There are a lot of dudes that you would not want to date. Some guys have addictions, bad hygiene, lazy etc. Get on Tinder as a woman and see the selection of dudes. Its almost as bad as the selection of women.

6.) A man can get his stuff together and find a women in his late 30s easily if he opens himself up the the international market ( or even domestic market). A women has no advantage going overseas. She does not have that parachute. If anything it is even worse for her.

Basically women have it very great for a short period of time. If they don't take advantage of that time then its over. The wall is real. She maybe able to get a man in her late 30s but that man is going to most likely be kind of lame.

 

[The Duke]

I'd rather be a man than a woman. Men run the world, always have always will. A man's value increases with time, a woman's decreases.

 

[BaronOfHair]

2.) You have to be selected

The adventurous man can partake in this experience also. All he need do is

-Enlist in The US Army

-Volunteer for The Delta Force

-Ace that selection

The payoff received is much more unique than that doled out to the Ujena swimsuit model, who ends up in bed with an unlettered Texas Tech point guard that thinks Doggy Style is just a variation on Gangam Style:

While your hombres have to settle for Call Of Duty, you get to HALO drop into Yemen or Somalia, and use the locals as target practice for reals

 

[jhonny9546]

I like your perspective and how you put yourself in women's shoes. Tell us more if you know
And we need more post like this but from the POV of a man

 

[Pandora]

I like your perspective and how you put yourself in women's shoes. Tell us more if you know
And we need more post like this but from the POV of a man

Yeh bro thanks for the kind words. I know so many females in my personal life that are struggling in dating. About 50% of them will never have the fairytale ending.

I have many cousins that will probably not lock down a good guy for marriage ( they are in their 30s). About 1/2 of my female friends are perpetually single etc. Its bad out there man.

This is a WORLDWIDE phenomenon too. Even in conservative nations the women are desperate for men.

Quality men hang around quality men. This creates a confirmation bias that men are mostly quality. No sir this is not the case. Have you ever been a hiring manager and tried to hire people? You will see how many people are just not reliable good people. People are crazy.

If you are a slightly decent guy with no big red flags you will be drowning in sexual options esp if you expand your net to the international market. 50% of the female population will be forever single WORLDWIDE ( insane).

Good men are the prize. We will always be the prize ( if you are a good fit man). Dont ever let the US fool you.

 

[Pandora]

I'd rather be a man than a woman. Men run the world, always have always will. A man's value increases with time, a woman's decreases.

Aint this the truth. Women have it really good for a very short time. Us men can mess up romantically and get it together in our 30s and 40s and we still have a chance to be ok. Women cant do this. I feel sorry for them...almost.

 

[Pandora]

Oh btw do you know how many " not so attractive" chicks I just used for sex in my prime. This was before I became a better person. We all have done it. Those girls that are not that cute but they like you. When we do that we break their heart. As a woman you never quite know if the man is just using you for sex or not.

Oh and how about this last thing. A man can be relatively happy as long as he can buy sex. A man be childless and MGTOW and can be content ( to a certain degree). All a man really needs is hobbies, some money, good health, some escorts etc.

A women will never ever be happy if she is childless and single. She will be miserable. Its much better to be a man. So we need to stop complaining and take advantage of the blessings of being a dude.

You ever notice that when a woman divorces a man its the man that has a stable gf quicker than the ex wife? The ex wife is stuck riding the CC for years! The man most of the time is remarried lol. We are the prize.

 

[BadBoy89]

Being a female is not as easy as we think. Yes if you are a hot or mid tier woman you will be fine. What if you are an ugly woman? You are pretty much done. The world stinks for ugly chicks.

Friends:

Phoebe (to Joey and Ross) Leaving us to go see hot dancer girls is not very Thankgivingy
Ross: Oh but it is. It’s just like the first Thanksgiving, where the Indians and Pilgrims sat down to dinner…
Joey: Yeah, yeah. Then the Indians taught the Pilgrims what it meant to be hot in the New World!

 

[New_Journey]

Being a female is not as easy as we think. Yes if you are a hot or mid tier woman you will be fine. What if you are an ugly woman? You are pretty much done. The world stinks for ugly chicks.

1.) If you are an ugly girl then you are done. You will be used as a pump and dump for good looking guys. Your only choice is ugly dudes that are weird.

2.) You have to be selected. You have to wait for the guy you like to find you. You have no autonomy.

3.) If you miss getting a boyfriend in the university years then you are done. The quality of men really drops off after university.

4.) It really hurts a girl when her heart is broken by a "player". Most women never recover.

5.) Men are weirder than we give them credit for. Everything is a bell curve. There are a lot of dudes that you would not want to date. Some guys have addictions, bad hygiene, lazy etc. Get on Tinder as a woman and see the selection of dudes. Its almost as bad as the selection of women.

6.) A man can get his stuff together and find a women in his late 30s easily if he opens himself up the the international market ( or even domestic market). A women has no advantage going overseas. She does not have that parachute. If anything it is even worse for her.

Basically women have it very great for a short period of time. If they don't take advantage of that time then its over. The wall is real. She maybe able to get a man in her late 30s but that man is going to most likely be kind of lame.

Great post man, very refreshing. We often just bash women without failing to understand them.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Being a female is not as easy as we think. Yes if you are a hot or mid tier woman you'll be fine

Even this isn't all it's cracked up to be: The phyical traits which make a woman desirable begin to fade once they're into their EARLY 30s, and sometimes sooner. Real life examples:

Sydney Sweeney's got the world at her feet now... Will the entire planet still be going gaga over her a mere decade into the future, when she's pushing 40? She's not an untalented actress, and will probably still be showing up onscreen, but the chances of her enjoying a career second wind ala. Harrison Ford in The 90s are about as likely as The House Of Saud laying off the beheadings, in favor sentencing Unbelievers to community service

Since The 2000s(hardly ancient history), we've already seen this cycle rinse and repeat, several times over... How much do we hear from Elisha Cuthbert(Who was gracing almost every other cover of Maxim, as relatively recently as '09) these days?

Were it not for her legal blood feud with Justin Baldoni, would anyone today be thinking of Blake Lively in terms outside of "That chick who's married to Deadpool?"

 

[Pandora]

Even this isn't all it's cracked up to be: The phyical traits which make a woman desirable begin to fade once they're into their EARLY 30s, and sometimes sooner. Real life examples:

Sydney Sweeney's got the world at her feet now... Will the entire planet still be going gaga over her a mere decade into the future, when she's pushing 40? She's not an untalented actress, and will probably still be showing up onscreen, but the chances of her enjoying a career second wind ala. Harrison Ford in The 90s are about as likely as The House Of Saud laying off the beheadings, in favor sentencing Unbelievers to community service

Since The 2000s(hardly ancient history), we've already seen this cycle rinse and repeat, several times over... How much do we hear from Elisha Cuthbert(Who was gracing almost every other cover of Maxim, as relatively recently as '09) these days?

Were it not for her legal blood feud with Justin Baldoni, would anyone today be thinking of Blake Lively in terms outside of "That chick who's married to Deadpool?"

Yeh you are right. I was being generous. Sydney Sweeney has a short shelf life. By the time she is 30 it will be a wrap.

Can you imagine having only 10 yrs.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Can you imagine having only 10 yrs.

Pluses and minuses to everything, including one's gender. The closest male equivalent I can think of to this is the life of your typical(I.E. Not Tom Brady)pro athlete: By time your late 20s role around you've reached-if not passed-your physical peak, so you better have ambitions beyond running around the ball field, and extra talents to fall back on

Terry Crews and The Old Spice Guy are among a small handful that've been able to keep living like A-Listers, looooooong after they've hung up their jerseys

 

[plumber]

good post OP. maybe this explains why women and some men try to mentally flip this, so that men don't know these simple truths.

 

[BaronOfHair]

By the time she is 30 it will be a wrap

I'll do ya one better, P... Taylor Swift. At 35, she's got maybe TWO more years of anyone being especially eager to watch her shake her ass on stage or in a music video. If she desires kids and family, once the fame train halts, never to restart?

Well, it'll behoove her to take a cue from Julia Roberts(Settle for a nice guy who's a 1,000 rungs further down the totem pole than every high roller she's taken into her bed thus far. No 1% guy is going to choose to a past-her prime pop star over a 19 year old Ujena model) + Brace herself for a sh-tload of IVF or perhaps be content with adopting

There's ZERO female equivalents to Shemar Moore and Steve Martin I.E. They spent their youth making millions, THEN branched ou5 into fatherhood in their 50s and even 60s. And there probably never will be

 

[SW15]

Taylor Swift. At 35, she's got maybe TWO more years of anyone being especially eager to watch her shake her ass on stage or in a music video. If she desires kids and family, once the fame train halts, never to restart?

Taylor Swift is interesting. She's 35 now, never married and no kids.

Prior to age 25, Taylor Swift mentioned that she wanted to have kids.

It's unknown if she'll marry. She does have a reasonably high notch count. I think she's had sex with at least 10 men. The notch count could be higher.

Madonna didn't have her first child until age 38. For a Baby Boomer generation woman, that was extremely late. Regular Millennial women (Taylor Swift's generation) are now having their first children at 35-40 far more commonly than Boomer women ever did.

Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears were born in 1980 and 1981, right at the borderline of Generation X and Generation Y/Millennial.

Both had children before 30 as that was becoming less common for women born in the early 1980s.

Spears had some mental health issues in her late 20s and early 30s.

Aguilera had 2 kids with 2 men and her looks dropped off. Aguilera has not been as relevant musically or as a celebrity since she had her first child in 2008.

Since The 2000s(hardly ancient history), we've already seen this cycle rinse and repeat, several times over... How much do we hear from Elisha Cuthbert(Who was gracing almost every other cover of Maxim, as relatively recently as '09) these days?

Elisha Cuthbert was a 2000s era hottie. She's 42 now and has a far lower profile. She has 2 kids and her marriage has now lasted over 10 years.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Taylor Swift is interesting. She's 35 now, never married and no kids

None that we know of. Decades from now, don't be surprised to read in her autobiography that she got knocked up some time in her 20s, recruited a shady MD who provides exclusive treatment to celebrities ala. Conrad Murray for the express purpose of receiving an off-the-radar abortion, subsequently ended up barren


"Elisha Cuthbert was a 2000s era hottie"

Who, during said time frame, was regularly hailed as "The Next Cameron Diaz". In an era characterized by false prophecies("24, CSI, Prison Break, The Office, Desperate Housewives, Supernatural, Boston Legal, Gossip Girl, Smallville, 30 Rock, House MD... Whoever said the internet would render network TV obsolete was talking out of their ass!!!" , "Micheal Moore will singlehandedly deliver us from Bush II", "Everything'll be fine, now that Obama is in office", "Feminism is a relic of The 1970s", "We're within inches of turning The Near East into a bastion of freedom and democracy"), that one turned out to be especially groundless

 

[SW15]

I'd rather be a man than a woman.

I would too.

A man's value increases with time, a woman's decreases.

My viewpoint is somewhat different on this.

I don't agree that a man's value increases. The typical unattached guy in his 30s/40s is a pussie beggar who settles for whatever woman he can get near his own age. That doesn't sound like someone experiencing a value increase. I think the better way to describe what happens to men is that his value decreases more slowly than a woman's value.

A woman's value decreases. However, she will still very much be in demand in the sexual marketplace throughout her 30s and often into her 40s if she stays in shape.

Roosh wrote his famous "The Wall is Softer than We Think" article in 2014. It's still as true in 2025 as it was in 2014.

The Wall Is Softer Than We Think

Plenty of men will commit to a childless woman in her 30s and early 40s if she's still good looking.

I mentioned in another thread recently about a failed platonic friendship that I had. Her looks were mid and I wasn't physically attracted. She is around my age and has been nearly as heavily pursued by men since her 30th birthday as she was 18-29. All she has to do is post a profile on a swipe app and she will get hundreds of matches.

Mid tier men aren't going to one of the Big 3 swipe apps and getting hundreds of matches. Most get matches on less than 1% of their right swipes. Men's matches are a small trickle on the swipe apps.

A man can be relatively happy as long as he can buy sex. A man be childless and MGTOW and can be content ( to a certain degree). All a man really needs is hobbies, some money, good health, some escorts etc.

A women will never ever be happy if she is childless and single. She will be miserable. Its much better to be a man. So we need to stop complaining and take advantage of the blessings of being a dude.

This is why money is important to a man's SMV. If he's not good in looks, personality, or even status, he can still get laid by paying directly for sex. There are men out there that are only able to get laid by directly paying for sex.

Women will typically not have to pay directly for sex. This isn't something most women think about until their mid-40s at the earliest.

While women can get sex without paying directly for it, many woman struggle to get longer term commitment with their sex.

You ever notice that when a woman divorces a man its the man that has a stable gf quicker than the ex wife? The ex wife is stuck riding the CC for years! The man most of the time is remarried lol. We are the prize.

I have not noticed that. I have seen divorced women find sex partners and boyfriends quickly.

Divorced women will have a penalty in terms of finding commitment if they have children from their marriage. However, there are enough thirsty guys who will commit. A childless, divorced woman will rarely struggle to find boyfriends and commitment.

If you are an ugly girl then you are done. You will be used as a pump and dump for good looking guys. Your only choice is ugly dudes that are weird.

Average and subpar women have no shortage of options. They can find something within their hundreds of options.

You have to be selected. You have to wait for the guy you like to find you. You have no autonomy.

This isn't much of an issue when being pursued by hundreds of men. Women have abundance.

If you miss getting a boyfriend in the university years then you are done. The quality of men really drops off after university.

No. First off, some women don't go to college/university. They might go to get a trade certification (typically medical/dental assisting type roles). Some just stop with their high school diploma.

I'd say that the quality drops off after late 20s, not university.

The typical woman of the last 20-25 years who attends college/university for a bachelor's degree doesn't end up long term with their college era boyfriend. Most college era romantic relationships are over within 3-5 years of graduation. I'm also being generous with the timeline here.

A lot of college educated women will end up having to date again after their college era relationship fails.

It really hurts a girl when her heart is broken by a "player". Most women never recover.

I think there's some damage but most women seem to recover to a certain extent. Most women will find boyfriends again after this with relative ease.

 

[SW15]

"Elisha Cuthbert was a 2000s era hottie"

Who, during said time frame, was regularly hailed as "The Next Cameron Diaz".

that one turned out to be especially groundless

That didn't happen. Cameron Diaz had a stronger career in her 30s and early 40s than Elisha Cuthbert.

Both Cameron Diaz and Elisha Cuthbert experienced declines in their careers as they aged. It was more drastic for Cuthbert.

Cuthbert got to have children naturally though.

Desperate Housewives

That show didn't quite have the same impact as Sex & the City. It was like Sex & the City, but set in the suburbs with a mix of divorcee women and married women. The main characters werein their 30s-40s at the time, who would have been late Baby Boomers and earlier Gen X'ers. It was a show that was watched by aging women during that time.

Women born from 1983-1989 didn't watch that show. They weren't the target market for it at the time. It's a show that hasn't come up in any of my conversations on dates with 1983-1989 born Millennials.

It was a show that I think tried to tell women that they could be desirable in the mating marketplace in their 30s and 40s, similar to Sex & the City. Women 30+ at the time and even today will eat up content that tells them that they can still attract top tier men.

I have linked a couple of related threads to this and a 2007 comment from Rollo Tomassi about aging women, Sex & the City, and Desperate Housewives.

Effects of Sex and the City

This is just a general question and topic for debate. What kind of influence has Sex and the City been on women? Negative or Positive? I tend to think of the show as a televsion version of Cosmopolitan magazine. It just encourages women to over analyze men, and be even pickier and more...

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The Modern Middle Aged Woman: High Notch Count, Big White Collar Career, Lives for Herself

https://www.today.com/life/essay-life/wrong-relationships-future-worth-rcna67037 This is a story of a woman who is in her early 40s now. She's an early Millennial. She claimed to be 40 last year and turning 41 in February according to a post on LinkedIn today. That means she was born in...

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To Rollo: Please Explain The Female Requirements for Intimacy

Rollo, I've read a lot of your posts regarding various social conventions. I also see recurring, lengthy threads regarding looks and why they matter/don't matter, etc. While I agree that women have more requirements for intimacy than men (for us as long as she's hot we'll hit it), I'd like to...

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Feminism is a relic of The 1970s

Second Wave Feminism (1960s-1980s era feminism) had a lasting impact. I see it all the time in the behavior of the Millennial women and have been seeing this since I arrived on a college campus in Fall 2001.

Whoever said the internet would render network TV obsolete was talking out of their ass!!!"

The media landscape has changed a lot in the last 20 years.

I think the internet has impacted the cable/satellite TV networks more than the big over-the-air networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX).

The common behavior has been to ditch a cable/satellite TV subscription in favor of subscriptions to streaming video services.

The over-the-air networks can be still viewed if someone gets a digital antenna. No need to pay for them monthly.

Digital antennas can be a bit of a pain.

Many fewer people are watching network TV too. The era of appointment TV ended with the rise of the internet. Back in the 1990s-2000s, people were still watching TV shows like Friends, Seinfeld, and Desperate Housewives at a specific time every week. I don't know anyone who does that anymore for scripted TV/reality TV. Fewer people watched their local TV newscasts and the national evening newscasts anymore. People who watch evening newscasts like NBC Nightly News are 65+.

Live sports are appointment TV watching. The beta males that tend to watch live sports from professional and collegiate leagues have to watch a game live at a specific time.

These betas are doing it because their wives have less of a genuine burning desire for them. The unattached betas drown themselves in sports watching, porn, or video games because they have been rejected by a large percentage of women.