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Been working behind a bar for the past 3 weeks and IV got to say it’s probably one of the best jobs in terms of the volume of women you interact with within a short space of time.

For the 1st two weeks of working there I didn’t really get many results because I couldn’t figure out how to CLOSE girls probably with good results while working, then I read something by Pook about eye contact, so decide to look at girls in a “you are very sexy but naughty” way with very slight smile and waited till they broke eye contact, all this I while I was severing them.

If any girl asked a question abut anything other then what they were purchasing, I would chat/flirt for a few mins with them, then would go for the CLOSE no matter what.

By the end of the night I had 5 girls approach me directly loads indirectly, number closed 3 of them and the next day set up 2 day 2s.

Anyway enough about the experiment will try it out some more and maybe expand on this if I discover anything new.

Point of this post is that one of the things IV come to realise is that for guys who work behind a bar and are not getting laid it is simply because they are not CLOSING, the simple act of closing is like 80% of this GAME, plus when working behind bar you have BENEFITS.

1st You don’t have the random guy stigma that is associated with clod approaches.

2nd You are consistently in contact with girls, so you come to realise that there is truly no shortage of hot girls about.

3rd You can watch and study other guys and see where there going wrong and where there going right, meaning you can avoid there stupid mistakes.

I especially advise those who find clubs and bars intimidating to work in a bar/club just for ONE WEEK as it will help fix that thought process

P.S. My closing line is “wow you come across very cool, sexy, whatever. It’s a shame am working behind the bar, I would of loved to of gotten to know you better, unfortunately am not to sure what time I finish work…. (Look as if your thinking deeply for an answer to the problem for a about 2 seconds) look have you got a number I can reach you on? So we can continue this some other time.

(Say something SIMILAR to this with same type of look stated above) Point is to ASSUME she asked to meet up with you after you finished work; you work the close from that angle. Also text girl your number within 30min of getting hers, make text very short.

P.P.S. I think COLD approaching is the BEST most efficient, full proof way to meet women and that this whole bar thing is just good for the experience, and for those who generally have a fear of that kind of environment it will help them get past it.
 

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There are LOADS of things you see and hear but these are the ones that come to mind, but you need to get a job in a bar/club for at least ONE WEEK to see it for yourself mate it's soooo cool to be on the other side.

1. Girl will act a bit *****y/cold at start and instead of ploughing guy leaves then girl complains about why he left. (this one tends to happen to the good looking guys lol)

2. Guys not been load enough and taking up space

3. Not CLOSING when girl is all over them

4. Talking WAY to much (see this a lot)

5. Girls asking guys where they live/who with out of the blue, and they still don’t take the HINT (happens A LOT)

6. Simple **** tests, like buy drinks before she’s earned the right.

7. NOT ESCALATING FAST ENOUGH (biggest problem guys have. I see, soooo many guys on a night that could of got laid if they just went for kiss/ bounce and take home, It’s almost SHAMEFUL)

8. There IS a SECRET SOCITY you see this in the way one guy will approach a girl and talk BS and get blown out then another comes and gets the conversation on to a sexual topic real quick and the girl is happily participating as if he where a member of the SECRET SOCITY (very funny to watch).

Also when ever i see a guy macking a girl and i wanna get up close i'll go do some really slooow glass collecting lol.

Those are just the ones that come to mind, but I could write a book on the subject.
When am working I’ll be thinking maaaan if I was him I would be doing that or this right now, this helps me make fewer mistakes when the same situation arises since iv seen it before and can draw of my reference experience.
 

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Awesome! Been thinking about bartending for a while now and I finally have an opportunity to do it, so can't wait!!
 

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What does it take to get a bartending job? Seems like a good way for those unsocial people(like me) to always see/meet new people.
 

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flows101 said:
8. There IS a SECRET SOCITY you see this in the way one guy will approach a girl and talk BS and get blown out then another comes and gets the conversation on to a sexual topic real quick and the girl is happily participating as if he where a member of the SECRET SOCITY (very funny to watch)
I'm guessing then that the first is some combo of short/foreign/not attractive and the other is some combo of tall/white/attractive. So it's not really a secret unless you're just plain dumb. It's the same 'secret' that arranges social groups in ethnically mixed universities (Hint: It's primarily by race).

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1. Girl will act a bit *****y/cold at start and instead of ploughing guy leaves then girl complains about why he left. (this one tends to happen to the good looking guys lol)
I had this yesterday in my hall. If you tell them to shut up and quieten down it seems to do the trick.

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2. Guys not been load enough and taking up space
With the 1st one there's a fine line between shouting at her to gain attention (supplicative) and too quiet = convo ender. As for taking up space, I think that's much more effective by actually taking up space physically rather than pretending to do so.

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3. Not CLOSING when girl is all over them
Yes because their friends are there to stop the sex. The guy's mentality is that if he number closes, then the girl is free to meet him one on one without her friends being there. In other words, a simple solution to getting the interaction when her mates aren't there. Also girls give a lot of resistance to going home for sex.

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4. Talking WAY to much (see this a lot)
This is directionless convo. In other words, the guy may start talking about something situational then just plough on about that. He doesn't alter the path to something sexual. Basically, he forgets that his aim is to escalate rather than not get blown out.

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5. Girls asking guys where they live/who with out of the blue, and they still don’t take the HINT (happens A LOT)
Agreed, even better when she tells you where she lives without you even asking.

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6. Simple **** tests, like buy drinks before she’s earned the right.
You should never buy women drinks in general because they are less inclined to pay you back than men. If they are an attractive white woman the odds of payback are stacked against you. Attractive = More arrogance, White = Less of a hospitalitable nature and Woman = Pedestalised.

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7. NOT ESCALATING FAST ENOUGH (biggest problem guys have. I see, soooo many guys on a night that could of got laid if they just went for kiss/ bounce and take home, It’s almost SHAMEFUL)
Yes, the fear of escalating too fast and looking like a perve causes an over reaction of taking it too slow.

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8. There IS a SECRET SOCITY you see this in the way one guy will approach a girl and talk BS and get blown out then another comes and gets the conversation on to a sexual topic real quick and the girl is happily participating as if he where a member of the SECRET SOCITY (very funny to watch).
Addressed already.

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Also when ever i see a guy macking a girl and i wanna get up close i'll go do some really slooow glass collecting lol.

Those are just the ones that come to mind, but I could write a book on the subject.
When am working I’ll be thinking maaaan if I was him I would be doing that or this right now, this helps me make fewer mistakes when the same situation arises since iv seen it before and can draw of my reference experience.
Well, I think of it kind of like a game of football. From the outside you can watch and nit pick at mistakes. But if you're playing yourself, you are just as prone if not more prone to making the same errors. Commentators have been analysing teams for years and it hasn't made much difference. So it's in-field game that counts not 'out-of-field' per se.
 

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I just finished training as a bar chef(bartender).

Right now the only job I can get, due to lack of experience, is in a catering service at a hotel. It's a field of work where the people you know and experience on the job is far more important than how smart or good you are. People won't hire a rookie to cover the happy hour shift, so if you want to work in that classic "bartender" position, you're going to have to work your way up to it.

That's about all I have to offer on the subject...

Oh yeah, and the training programs are awesome, make sure you pick the best in your area because it really pays off in the long run.
 

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You're better off doing Physics. In a club why would a girl be impressed with being a bartender when you could tell her you do Physics at a science based uni that's 80% male? I know LOADS of physics guys who get laid, but NO bartenders who ever get anything. Remember, the girls don't care about you serving a drink but whether you can find a function for the viscosity of the liquid and how to describe a particle's motion in that liquid. It's like the fact that girls value intelligence and honesty, and they like good and humble guys as well.

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in my experience - every young, single, warm-blooded male owes it to himself to work in the bars/clubs for a while at least once during their youthful party-stage of life. if you can hook up with the right people and learn your stuff and climb through the ranks... youll find the best combination of FUN, WOMEN and MONEY. and lots of booze and drugs too depending on where you work...

i used to have a side job as a bouncer a couple years back. i didnt need the job - but it was a great way to get paid to have fun. i worked at the hottest bar in town and it was always PACKED with beautiful, scandily clad women runnin' around who were lookin' for fun. my buddies and i would usually pick up at least one or two new girls a piece every weekend... sometimes every shift.

my room mate is still in the business. he bartends at a top bar and on their busy nights, they usually average 30-45 dollars an hour in tips. and since hes now one of the top bartenders hes makin that hourly rate at 8-10 or more hours a shift. he'll WALK with 350 or so CASH on one shift. making 1,000 or more a week from only 3-4 shifts isnt uncommon either for those workin at the hot spots.

the bar and club scene can definately lead to the dark side, though. every hot spot bar ive worked at, most people there are really into partying. i know it sounds obvious but i mean nonstop. most of the employees are constanstly drinking and doin' coke - even while working. the majority (not all :D ) of the girls in the business are sluts or attention *****s, and a lot of guys can be douche bags... but like i said for a young, single man lookin for adventure, the bar business can be a WILD ride. just from my couple years in the business ive got all kinds of stories for my future grandkids.

-SLB
 

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New observations

Two types of “players” get laid CONSISTENTLY in the bar/club (I work in both) environment I work in.

Player-1: Seeks & Destroys

Player-2: Plagues the venue with MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF ENERGY

These are the kinds of guys when the club closes I see them taking girls home CONSISTANLY.

There ways of doing it are soooo different tho player-1 leans more to the MM (under the raider) camp I would say, while player-2 Leans more to the NEW RSD (being the party) camp.

The guys who are player-1 type dudes open A LOT with C/F openers or stupid cheesy openers that seem to work for them, they also do a lot of proximity IOI’s before opening the girls. There style of game is…. very smooth. No quick make outs, no feeling the girl up in the presence of everyone, not until there some where discreet and even then he doesn’t make it blatant that he's goner take her home, it comes across as fun flirting with a bit naughtiness mixed in.

Pros to these type of guys game is there really good at getting bright intelligent girls, middle aged women, hot older women and the classy/wealthy girls.

Cons to this is that IV noticed these guys cant get in with slut type girls, young girls with high AD & girls who are drunk

The guys who are player-2 type dudes are LOUD they take up space dominate the venue, they have so much ****ing energy, they go around talking and busting jokes with EVERYONE, they go up to hole groups of girls and burst in the set say stupid **** that’s really funny, they make out with EVERY kind of girl UG’s, HB’S 1 to 10, & MILF’S.

The one key thing I think gets these guys laid is that they suffer from AD, it’s imposable for them to stay talking to one girl for tooo long they ALWAYS get distracted REAL EASY and walk of mid set. I see girls struggling to keep THERE attention (VERY FUNNY) & trying to reengage them. These guys tend to be stockier looking and are very unpredictable.

Pros never see them in the bar. The more bright intelligent girls, middle aged women, hot older women and the classy/wealthy girls ignore them or tell them to **** OFF A LOT, unless there in one of the categories for the night.

Cons I usually only see these guys when am working in the club, there VERY good at getting in with slut type girls, young girls with high AD & girls who are drunk, Also these players tend to durink more then the other type.


P.S. there might be a lot more to these guys then iv seen so I’ll try to pay more attention when am working tonight, while picking up on the girls behind the bar myself hehe :)
 

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I don't like Player 2, that's way too inefficient and tiring. At least player 1 maximises his efforts and gets a greater % of reward. I think Player 2 works off social proof (being the party, everyone talking to him, etc) whereas Player 1 works more off charming the girl individually and doing the PU more tactically (warming her up, disarming her friends, sorting out logistics, etc). It does amaze me though how someone can actually enjoy talking to lots of dumb drunk people in a trashy club though, it doesn't get more boring than that. I think a lay is deserved just for doing all of that.

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**** me this guy lays HOT HB’s ALL the time

There is this natural IV seen a couple times now, he must be like late 30s and he lays hot girls all the time, I finally had a chance to watch & study him yesterday, his approach is really basic. “PLOUGH like CRAZY but NEVER CHASE the girl.”

Every time a girl walks away or he gets ****ed blocked or some other player blows him out, he’ll leave walk around talk to some other people & if he see’s the girl again & catch’s her eye he WAVES HER OVER, he NEVER goes back over to her NEVER.

The girls walk over to him and he just spits all the cheesy smooth **** and try’s to bounce them right out of the bat, NO lets go dance or get a drink just blah blah you hot, what you saying girl, blah blah chit chat “LETS GET OUT OF HERE” if girl resist’s he wash's, rinse’s & repeat’s.

Goner try this way of gaming and report back as soon as i can.
 

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yea I worked in a bar for one night. The bar was happening for a tuesday night but it sucked working back in the kitchen. A lot of energy and stories at the bar. I got to chat with people when they ordered more beers, you definately have an "in" just being behind the bar.
 

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90% of possible lays are lost becuase...

Iv come to realise that 90% of possible lays that chodes could of got while on a night out are lost due to there mates not understanding they need SEMI ISOLATION 1st in order to pull the girl home (his mates need to **** off and give dude some space with the girl), instead they hang around doing **** all, just hold their drinks to there chest’s looking bored & JUDGING other girls INFRONT of the girl there mate could pull home (All this say's ALOT about him).
 
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