Balding. Should i shave it all or keep what i have?

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Originally posted by Monkey
This is slightly incorrect.

High Test does (in most cases) mean higher DHT but the key point is whether the individual has hair follicles which are sensitive to DHT.

You could have low T and low DHT but very sensitive follicles and alot of hairloss. Or high T, high DHT and very resistant follicles and never lose any head hair.

Also the more DHT you have the more body hair you will probably have too as DHT makes body hair grow.
Not so fast there.

Sure, some people may SLIGHTLY be more sensitive to DHT than others. But for a man under say, 45, to be balding/bald, he has at least adequate if not High testosterone.

Your incorrect in that its possible for an utherwise HEALTHY male to lose his hair at a young age with low testosterone levels. Not gonna happen. thats why young boys/girls and females under say, under 50, never lose there hair. They have pretty much Zero DHT, regardless of how sensitive their follicles are.

And, "Resistant" hair follicles aren't very resistant to DHT at all. You could have the most resistant follicles in the world. A couple of solid cycles of steroids to get those testosterone levels in the 2000 ng range, and hair starts dropping like flies.
 
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Originally posted by Julian
I pray to God that i dont bald. Balding is one of those things where you either have the gene that starts it, or you dont. My grampa had a full head of hear when he passed, my dad is balding, so im hoping it skips every other generation, hopefully i wont get it.
Actually, I heard that balding is genetic from the mother's side (so I would check out the men on your mother's side of the family).
 

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Originally posted by Sexy_Malibu
Actually, I heard that balding is genetic from the mother's side (so I would check out the men on your mother's side of the family).
Thats wrong.

It is dependent on DHT/testosterone levels. However, certain races can have higher/lower testosterone levels, so thats probably where that correlation came from.
 

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Originally posted by myfriendblu
Thats wrong.

It is dependent on DHT/testosterone levels. However, certain races can have higher/lower testosterone levels, so thats probably where that correlation came from.
Yeah, I don't profess to be any expert on male balding... but I did hear something about it being genetic sometimes (depends on the person) like Julian said but that it comes from the maternal side not the paternal side... ???
 

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Originally posted by Deep Dish
Maybe you can explain something to me, then.

I have barely any chest hair, that except for a 'tiger line' on my stomach my chest is vacant of all but a few strands of hair. It's impossible for me to grow a beard; I can grow a goatee of 50% hair density, but everywhere else the hairs only grow in at 25% density. Whenever I take a test on levels of masculinity/femininity, I always score just slightly on the feminine side.
It really is difficult to tell just based on body/face hair. However, BEHAVIOR and LOOKS have alot to do with it.

Low testosterone males often exhibit the following characteristics

1. Lethargic, moody, low energy levels, difficulty sleeping, depressed.

2. Pudgy, especially in the face and chest region. often have very round faces and pudgy, flabby chests.

3. low sex drive.

Its best to go get tested at the doctor. Like I said, find an expert. Lots of info on the net
 

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Originally posted by Sexy_Malibu
Yeah, I don't profess to be any expert on male balding... but I did hear something about it being genetic sometimes (depends on the person) like Julian said but that it comes from the maternal side not the paternal side... ???
LOL no biggie, your a young girl, no reason for you to know!
As far as genetic links, it has been proven that men from Black/Italian/Arabic decent have higher testosterone levels IN GENERAL and men from Asian decents have lower. Thats often why you see why asian people are smaller, because testosterone can affect growth size. LOL, believe it or not, testosterone also can affect penis size of developing males, which is why the stereotypes of the races exist, LOL. Intesting stuff, i could go on for hours, just flood in the questions!
 

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1. Lethargic, moody, low energy levels, difficulty sleeping, depressed.
Definitely not me.
2. Pudgy, especially in the face and chest region. Often have very round faces and pudgy, flabby chests.
Definitely not me.
3. low sex drive.
Definitely not me.

On the other hand, I don't work out and am skinny (128 pounds at 5'10"). At any rate, yes it would be better to search out answers on the Net and get tested, if I really desired to.
 

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So thats why asians got tiny penises LMAO poor asians.
 

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Why do people (women) have to make snap judgements about shaved heads that are totally wrong? For me:

Shaved head = getting it over with

Having your hair fall out sucks. Why should it be a slow torturous process? Shaving it is embracing it and moving on with life.

Also, MPB is genetic and you can get it from either your mother or your father.
 

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Hey Deep Dish...something's off

Hey Deep Dish,

Origininally posted by Deep Dish:

I have barely any chest hair, that except for a 'tiger line' on my stomach my chest is vacant of all but a few strands of hair. It's impossible for me to grow a beard; I can grow a goatee of 50% hair density, but everywhere else the hairs only grow in at 25% density. Whenever I take a test on levels of masculinity/femininity, I always score just slightly on the feminine side.
I've got to ask you dude, I couple of months ago you posted in the main forum about some clubs in Orlando that you've been going to; and I googled the names for fun since I've been to Florida a few times, and anyways it turns out that these were gay clubs bro. And all this stuff about being feminine.... what's the deal here? Are you gay or bi?

Dude, I don't mean any offense to you, nothing wrong with it, but hell I work in finance and it's my job to put two and two together....so here goes....you write posts that are very "anti-women", you visit gay clubs, and you score high on the feminine side. WTF?



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LOL at cesares post

FlyGuy you are right. I personally don't shave but shaving your head is accepting your hair loss (if you get over it). Having a combover or a head full of rogaine is trying to "fight mother nature" . Don't sweat it man, that one b1tch is confused over the two.
 

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Here's the important thing.

Some heads look better shaved than others. So you have to consider that.

An option to shaving is just to trim it real short. That lasts longer anyhow versus shaving.

I think long hair on a male pattern bald guy looks like Bozo the Clown.
 

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I sent a PM over to Cesare, but the short answer is no.

On topic, my thoughts on fighting nature:

The 'comb-over' is denial. They think they're fighting nature but in actuality are fools.

Hair transplants are fighting nature. "Oh look, Mother Nature, screw you for taking my hairline. Look, I'll just disguise what you're taking away!"

Toupees, or however they are spelled. Fighting nature.

Drugs. Fighting nature.

Shaving the head is accepting nature, still looking good despite losing the hair. "Nature, if you steal my hair, go all the way, Baby!" There are guys who wax their head and hairs don't grow back for several months. The best look, it seems, is not baby smooth but a buzz cut of about 1/8th an inch. More women, I have found, like the buzz than an otherwise shaved head.
 

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I personally don't really like the term "fighting nature". There is such a negative stigma surrounding balding/bald dudes. People need to embrace it and realize that its a natural, HEALTHY thing.
 

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Hey bros,

Deep Dish sent me a PM and it's all good.

Now, on to the topic at hand. I don't think I am balding at the moment, so I may not be able to contribute much, but here goes...

All this stuff about fighting nature is a not as important as you guys are making it seem. Guys who work out all the time in order to get huge muscles are also "fighting nature" in that they are trying to control nature. Nature says "you are skinny" and you try to control it by lifting heavy weights and eating tons of protein rich foods.

Nothing wrong with that and quite frankly, the true mark of an Alpha Male, IMO, is to control and excert your will over nature. Therefore, if this can SAFELY be done in the realm of hairloss then by all means go for it. Now, I am not saying that this can be done. Using Rogaine or Propecia, IMO, would be like using steroids, in that yes you are controlling nature and excerting your will over nature; however, at too high a price: YOUR HEALTH!

Bros, I strongly urge all of you have have considered taking Propecia or Rogaine to read about other people's long term experiences on those drugs. Don't buy into all this stuff from the Pharmaceuticals about their not being any real side effects and this crap about "side effects go away after a few months while STILL taking the drug".

Guys, visit this site:
www.regrowth.com and read about people who have been on Propecia for years who still have problems with erections. Read about guys who would do anything to go back to a time before they had ever touched Propecia and have their health back. These are all real guys and they are all relaying similar experiences that the big pharmaceutical machines don't want you to know. I read all the stuff on the regrowth discussion forum and I swear that no matter what, I would never take the risk and use these drugs for my whole life if there is even a slight chance of messing whith my sexual health, with what MAKES ME A MAN!

Now one last thing. Two months ago, I met an extemely well known (on MASF) seductionist/ PUA and we had a very long conversation about many topics.

We spoke of hairloss and he told me that for two years prior to becoming a PUA, he had noticed that his hair was thinning (at age 21) and he decided to take Propecia. He used it for two years until he found MASF and learned all the stuff to improve his game. Then at that point, taking the drugs was a sign of him being an AFC. His mindset back then was: "I am such a loser that no girl will want me ever. So at least if I can hold onto my hair long enough to meet ONE woman who would marry me, then I can stop taking these drugs".

So anyways, once he became a PUA and his game became amazing, he realized that no matter how bald and no matter what happens to him lookswise, his game allows him to accomplish whatever he wants with respect to women. Therefore, he stopped taking all the drugs and just lets nature take its course. To him, the idea of taking drugs to make himself look better in the eyes of some chicks is a sign that he is AFC. His game is all that he needs and he swears that no matter how he looks, if his game is tight, he will succeed with any woman he wants.

Whether this will prove true once he's bald, I don't know. But what I do know is that his attitude is far more refreshing than guys who will take power drugs all their lives at the risk of major health problems in order to fight hairloss.

Cesare
 

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You know what I never thought about it as "getting it over with"... that's a good point. I wasn't trying to imply that guys who shave their heads are trying to fight nature, I was just letting you guys know that a lot of girls DO see it that way... whether it's true or not. Just something to keep in mind.
 

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*****This Just in*****

Never mess with mother nature people. Yep, turns out nothings as good as it sounds. There is now strong evidence now that are body actually NEEDS DHT, the stuff that Propecia blocks because it causes hair fallout. Apparently, the DHT helps keep that nasty, cancer - causing female hormone estrogen at bay as we age. I KNEW that DHT was there for a reason. Now we got evidence. Im still researching the subject, I'll get some links and hard facts soon.
 

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What doesnt cause cancer these days
 

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This "fighting nature" concept and the negative connotation attached to the term is retarted. I guess women who shave their legs are "fighting nature" as well.


Putting on makeup? = "fighting nature"
Dry skin? Using moisturizer? = "fighting nature"
Clipping your toenails? = "fighting nature"
Getting braces? = "fighting nature"
Treatments for cancer = "fighting nature"

Give me a break.
:rolleyes:
 

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Originally posted by Mikeman!
This "fighting nature" concept and the negative connotation attached to the term is retarted. I guess women who shave their legs are "fighting nature" as well.


Putting on makeup? = "fighting nature"
Dry skin? Using moisturizer? = "fighting nature"
Clipping your toenails? = "fighting nature"
Getting braces? = "fighting nature"
Treatments for cancer = "fighting nature"

Give me a break.
:rolleyes:
ha ha ha good point. I guess "fighting nature" isn't the right term for it... maybe "hiding nature" ha ha ha... No but seriously though, are we talking about the way women SHOULD view it or the way women DO view it? I'm not condoning the negative connotation attached to this topic, I'm just expressing that it does exist. Men come in all different shapes, sizes, colors, and styles... Personally I don't see anything wrong with a shaved head OR a balding head... But as much as the attention-***** inside me LOVES to talk about myself, we're NOT talking about me here. I'm just trying to give you guys some advice... er, not even actually advice, just some... insight maybe... into what A LOT of girls DO think.
 

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