BAD APPROACH= DISSED by a 9.5 Brazilian Model

[MR109]

Ha Ha!

I've been in a rut for 1.5 years. Was on and off with a girl for 4 years...which ended really badly just over a year ago. Sorta threw me into a lull of not wanting to date or approach anyone. So I have had the attitude of "not caring" if I meet or hit up another girl.

Today, I broke my lull...

Was at the post office...saw this 9.5, dark skinned girl at the counter ahead of me. Very cute, obviously a model.

SIDE NOTE: One thing I want to point out - EVERY MODEL I have ever met or been with RARELY GETS HIT ON BY GUYS! So when approaching model-type women, or women who you think are MEGA hot (every guy has a different taste) do not psych yourself out by thinking, "oh, she must get hit on all the time". I have YET to meet one model that gets asked out on dates regularly or has a guy trying to get her number..

Anyway...

I've been in LA for a while, which is filled with hot models and actresses...so hitting up a hot girl never has "really" bothered me. Sure I am still nervous, but I try not to let it stop me, and I try not to psyche myself out.

Anyway...I try to evoke a POSITIVE energy whenever I am around other people. What I mean is, I imagine me, and the all the space around me is awesome and positive. Though it may sound odd, this energy gets picked up on, and noticed by people around you.

I made eye contact with her as soon as I entered, and stood in line just behind her and to the left.

As I am waiting in line, she turns around couple of times, and makes contact with me again. I "took it" as giving ME a second look...but who knows...she could have just been killing time.

I was picking up a package, and was done before she was. I knew how I was going to approach her..well...at least my opener, but did not really want to do it while carrying a 40 lb. box. So...I returned the box to my car, and went back to the post office. To be honest..I really did not "care" if I got her number, or if I embarrassed myself.

As she came out of the parking lot, she ended up stopping to re-organize the things she was carrying. Lucky for me, her body position was now towards the direction I was coming from (NEVER APPROACH FROM BEHIND).

Walked up to her, said hi, and then snoowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwballed from there...ha!


ME - Excuse me? Hi, I saw you in the Post office and thought you were really cute...I wanted to come over and say, "hi"

HER - "oh..."hi"

She smiled a bit.

ME - what's your name?

HER - Isabella

ME - (I hold out my hand) - "I'm Mike, nice to meet you"

HER - nice to meet you...

ME - (I noticed she had an accent) - Cool accent, where are you from?

HER - Brazil

ME - Cool...are you enjoying LA?

HER - yeah, I've been here for 2 year now...so i guess it is my home now.

ME - Right on...



Even thought here were PLENTY of things I could do to keep convo going...estbalish a bit MORE of a rapport, I went blank!!. Ha!

ME - So what are you up to today?

HER - oh, just doing some errands and stuff...

ME - Yeah me too...I'm actually heading to lunch in a bit...there is this cool place around the corner...you wanna chill for a bit?

HER - ...no...I am okay...I don't think my boyfriend would like it if I did that.


Well...At this point, either she a) really has a boyfriend...or b) is just not interested and using BF as an excuse. Either way, looking back I think I went WAY to fast, and did not develope anything. It felt very DIRECT and TO THE POINT, as opposed to me just having some fun with her.

I don't think I could have gone any further...so I smiled told her it was nice meeting here (she said the same back), and I ended it there...

HA!!

Oh well

 

[IamtheAlphamale]

You just got some experience points man. Good job. Thats what happens when you start approaching. You cant think of **** all. Just keep it up.

 

[Sandow]

It wasn't that bad. Pat yourself on the back for making the effort, especially on a model. Remember it's important to not be result-oriented, just appreciate the fact that you went through with it.

Yea the dialogue was pretty bland, sometimes those environments can be hard to get a good vibe, unlike a bar where theres music, dancing, everyone talking having a good time. There's not really much you could of done, I think she really had a bf, most models do. The only think I can think of is getting her number and hoping something may come of it down the road.

 

[Dante420]

I'm going to be moving out to Los Angeles and I would really like some advice to help get set up from a fellow PUA

 

[yuppaz]

Sounded like a good approach to me too...tough with the really hot ones until you are more used to it...then you are more relaxed and therefore so is she. I don't think the problem was your directness at all, I've told girls we should use the condoms I'm buying and they don't mind....so asking her to lunch isn't that big of a deal...not that I would do that sexual angle seriously from day one at all.

Sounds like a great approach man, be proud of yourself for doing it and keep on doing it.

 

[Alle_Gory]

Got blown off by a 9.5?? Congrats.

 

[zekko]

This is the problem with cold approaches. Most women do have boyfriends, so the odds going in aren't very good. They may be willing to mess around on them however, if they are intrigued enough by you.

I think the trying to get her to lunch on the spot might be a bit too much. If someone is going about their business they may hesitate to just run off with some strange man completely off the cuff. This works for some people apparently, but it seems to me it would be easier to get a number, let her think about you for awhile, then later try to set up a meeting at a mutually advantageous time.

 

[scrouds]

Question for the pros:

If you're asking a girl to do something right then and there...
Do you need more rapprot
Less rapport
or about the same

Versus just getting their number and bailing?

 

[Snow Plowman]

Maybe it was me BUT the overall approach seemed pretty weak. Just look at the bigger picture beyond the words an you can notice the conversation was linear/flatline it was nothing but a bit of small talk with no depth.

ME - Excuse me? Hi, I saw you in the Post office and thought you were really cute...I wanted to come over and say, "hi"

HER - "oh..."hi"

She smiled a bit.

Ok, so you went direct nothing wrong here...

ME - what's your name?

HER - Isabella

ME - (I hold out my hand) - "I'm Mike, nice to meet you"

HER - nice to meet you...

ME - (I noticed she had an accent) - Cool accent, where are you from?

HER - Brazil

ME - Cool...are you enjoying LA?

HER - yeah, I've been here for 2 year now...so i guess it is my home now.

ME - Right on...



Even thought here were PLENTY of things I could do to keep convo going...estbalish a bit MORE of a rapport, I went blank!!. Ha!

ME - So what are you up to today?

HER - oh, just doing some errands and stuff...

ME - Yeah me too...I'm actually heading to lunch in a bit...there is this cool place around the corner...you wanna chill for a bit?

HER - ...no...I am okay...I don't think my boyfriend would like it if I did that.

"Why were you saying what you were saying?" I'm assuming it's because you were trying to keep the conversation because you used tons of questions. Questions in mind drop a bit of energy out of the conversation UNLESS it's more of a challenging type of tone.

You gotta learn how to free flow everything instead of just asking questions because she was giving you tons of ammo...Isabella, Accents, Brazil, LA, Hometowns, Mundane adventures, Food. These are all different things that you could've gone deeper into and my personal favorite get her qualifying herself.

Instead of just going up thinking "She's hot", go in thinking "Of course your beautiful...But what else?" and move the conversation through that context. Hot chicks are so used to guys trying to get them, BUT the dynamic changes when she meets a guy who is so used to being around hot chicks.

NOW, to her she has to show things beyond her looks to get that guy because he has 9 other women he knows who are just as hot. So she better be the better girl overall than the other 9.

 

[SickAgain]

Well all because she has a BF doesn't mean you couldn't try to be friends. Model girls have hot model friends you know.

 

[Duffdog]

MR109

I think that you just didn't have anything to offer at all. Ask yourself, Why would this girl want to even talk to me? How am I a cool person?

If your answer is...uh, I dunno... then you can pretty much expect the same reaction from every hot girl.

Here is an example of something I do. When I am out shooting, it is fairly easy to get any model (even if she has a bf) to pose for me and do just about anything I want. But, what if I suddenly came upon a normal girl and liked her? Well...I'm holding a camera, and I am a photographer, so thats where I would take the conversation:

snap shutter

"wow, check this out" (show preview screen) "you have an interesting look, I like the way your _____________ shows up with the ___________ and makes you look _____________."

Then after she get all interested in what you are saying, ask her to go out with you. If you have absolutely nothing that relates to the girl, how far do you think you will get?

 

[nismo-4]

It wasn't that bad. Pat yourself on the back for making the effort, especially on a model. Remember it's important to not be result-oriented, just appreciate the fact that you went through with it.

Yea the dialogue was pretty bland, sometimes those environments can be hard to get a good vibe, unlike a bar where theres music, dancing, everyone talking having a good time. There's not really much you could of done, I think she really had a bf, most models do. The only think I can think of is getting her number and hoping something may come of it down the road.

I'm glad you understand my signature.

I commend you for having the balls to even talk to her. But with a conversation as bland as the one you used, you honestly demanded that she blow you off, and going blank in a conversation with a model 9.5 is never good. You also seemed like you had nothing to offer.

Most models have boyfriends anyway. Can you compete with that? How?

If you were rich and famous, you'd pull her easily, blank or no blank. But in this case, you were neither and you just remembered the fact that the worst thing that can happen is the girl says no.

You did earn some experience points, I just hope you leveled up.

 

[MR109]

HI Guys,

no worries...

I've dated 3 models (one was a LTR), so not a big deal. I think my goal was really just to get myself of of the rut I was in. After 1.5 years of not wanting to hang out with ANY girl or date, play, etc...I was more prod of myself for even approaching. Sure a # would have been good, but I found myself in a strange situation (on the street, not a fun environment, etc.), so it was a bit new to me...

I was writing "approx". what was said...but for SURE it was bland. I felt that after I asked her name...felt strange...

Oh well...

Learn what I did good...what I did "not so good"...and work it next time